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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Langsat Defoliation
« on: March 08, 2024, 06:47:50 PM »
Langsat can’t do it in CA.
The winters and temperature swings in CA are pretty Wild not mild.
 Florida is comparatively a much better place than CA to grow almost every Tropical fruit and many sub trops as well.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Selling Pawpaw scions from favored cultivars
« on: March 08, 2024, 01:05:49 PM »
No Problem with seedling fruit. The commercial orchard spreading fruit around the Bay Area is 100 Seedling tree's producing huge, all seedlings. They produce on westside of santa cruz fog belt.
You should be fine. Any good known cultivars would be fun to try. All the varieties should ripen before winter no problem, doesn't matter late or early.


Quote from: tropic_tester on March 07, 2024, 06:47:03 PM
I'm in a cool coastal area and dont get too much heat but I have some young plants i've started from seed and are doing alright. I'd like to graft over them but unsure which would be most suitable. Which varieties are decent tasting and have the earliest and/or shortest ripening times. I'm hoping this will increase my odds of eventually getting fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Tape
« on: March 08, 2024, 12:56:42 PM »
My buddy does that method. It's fine.
The local CRFG group used to teach grafting using masking tape .
Most important is timing , The scion is ready to push buds, and the rootstock is in grow mode.
Then good weather for grafts to heal is the final ingredient.
There is many ways to do it and they are all right, some just work better than others.


Quote from: growinginphoenix on March 08, 2024, 12:47:53 PM
I haven't done much grafting. It is interesting that no one here is recommending rubber strips for tightening the union. Does this not have merit?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Langsat Defoliation
« on: March 08, 2024, 12:46:19 PM »
That is awesome! Who was selling grafted Duku 24 years ago?
 
Is your tree upright like the one photo'd or have you pruned it at all to have a wider canopy?

I don't think that upright form is the way to go for production or picking and trying to confirm my theory that I need to force them into a wider canopy with pruning , so the fruits can be shaded in huge clusters.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Tape
« on: March 07, 2024, 01:58:57 PM »
I see people not stretch the parafilm much sometimes, I think this can maybe smother a bit and not get the ideal air exchange.
I pre stretch out the parafilm to the point of breaking and then wrap the scion , continuing to stretch out the parafilm as much as possible. So it’s completely & tightly wrapped but easy for the buds to break through the stretched parafilm.

I prefer parafilm but like buddy tape for micro grafting.

Either way you need a very tight cambium connection . Tighter the better.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Puerto Rico - Travel ideas
« on: March 05, 2024, 02:06:21 PM »

there are some good ones and they have been covered extensively on the forum.
 a forum search on "Puerto Rico" should serve you well.
research station in mayaguez, botanical garden in san juan etc.... on and on

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: [advice requested] how much sun do various tropical fruits actually need?
« on: March 04, 2024, 07:40:16 PM »
You can space at 5’ for the guavas, 8’ for Cherimoya . 10-15’ for loquat.
Give the cherimoya your best soil and sun.
The Guava’s and Loquats grow like weeds and don’t require your best soil or sun.
They often fit best in the margins like a fenceline or property line or sidewalk strip, nooks.
They wont require irrigation once established.

The Cherimoya is the star of the show. Baby it and mulch and feed and irrigate it during summer, hand pollinate for more fruits, or any fruits . HoneyHart can be self pollinating in the Bay .


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Langsat Defoliation
« on: March 04, 2024, 01:21:11 PM »
Mike, This may have been discussed before but we need a key to be able to differentiate the different identifiable forms.
I have Duku seedlings from Oscar in the ground and grafted Langsat as well. I can't see any difference.

The Langsat seeds were extremely bitter but the Duku not so much.

You are one of a very few people that does not seem confused at differentiating these sub species.
thanks for the help.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red Skinned Pineapple with high brix?
« on: March 04, 2024, 02:17:36 AM »
Thanks for all the info Mike

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit trees I gave up on
« on: March 03, 2024, 09:40:31 PM »
They are not that good anyways . more tiny bird food. Much smaller than blueberries with a thicker skin and meh flavor.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Langsat Defoliation
« on: March 03, 2024, 09:35:38 PM »
20 + years from seed is not uncommon.
I hope it recovers for you.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida Natural Farming?
« on: March 03, 2024, 02:16:12 PM »
I wish Rob was here letting it rip as well.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red Skinned Pineapple with high brix?
« on: March 03, 2024, 02:14:29 PM »
very interesting. To your knowledge have any of those ever made it out to anywhere else in the world?
 
Quote from: Mike T on March 01, 2024, 10:52:44 PM
It is funny you you and I guess in different parts of the world there are great pineapples that haven't been shared. MD2 and Cayenne are scoffed at around here in spite of being standards in the sub tropics. Carnival, festival and jubilee are held in high regard as are the improved Queen varieties. Ripley Queen having a brix routinely over 20 is claimed to be the world's sweetest.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Meli Kalima Pineapple
« on: March 03, 2024, 01:45:56 PM »
Who but Dole could absorb the patent fee and still make money in 8 years.
What is special about this one, has anyone here tried it before or heard a review?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing rare artocarpus?
« on: March 03, 2024, 01:41:27 PM »
Can Marang and Chempadek handle a 2 month dry season.
Can Marang handle with it being drier and breezy?
I think I need to go for it and fill my own desires since this one is always hard to find & expensive.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit trees I gave up on
« on: March 03, 2024, 01:37:55 PM »
Yeah Ugni seems to do best in shade in 60 degree san francisco fog.
I gave up on them , but they are worthy of a spot if they grow and fruit great at your location.
Seems to be a northern Cal , PNW plant.
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Quote from: TnTrobbie on March 03, 2024, 06:40:47 AM
Chilean guava (Ugni molinae).

In the span of 5 years I have bought at least 10 of these plants all due to having replace dead ones. Regardless of their iterations, they are extremely sensitive. IME just touching the branches lightly to inspect growth I saw said branch die back in a few days for no reason. What's available to buy are just too small and expensive to keep trying to grow. I'mma pass on these for now. Soursop is easier to grow then these in FL 9B lol.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida Natural Farming?
« on: March 03, 2024, 01:33:39 PM »
It's true Epiphyte, Floridians do not have alot of organic, bio dynamic. no spray farmers to emulate and learn from their success.
 
However , as someone that rubs plenty of people the wrong way, I can understand why people aren't feeling it Eric. "Please note my images blah blah blah. Why would you respond like that? I said I don't watch fruit video's .
And why would you care if people are spreading and sharing your knowledge, that seem's to be something you'd want? Are you concerned someone could profit from a screen shot of your video?
Really stoked to see you doing organic no spray farming in Florida.
Who cares if there is pushback, of course there is push back.
Just do your thing and the work speaks for itself.
That's cool some of your your Mango tree's tend to go right back into flower after they finish fruiting.
I'd bet your building up some excellent living soil.



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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: The Fig Hunter
« on: March 02, 2024, 05:35:12 PM »
David may not be a con, but whomever made his flyer is. Advertising for people to waste time and drive out to an exchange only to get there and see it's not an exchange as advertised , appears to me to be the definition.
Quote from: sc4001992 on March 01, 2024, 07:22:47 PM
I attended one of the Fig Hunter exchange/presentation in Long Beach area last year. I was hoping it would be like the CRFG exchange, but it wasn't as mentioned above. More of a sales pitch and some decent presentation. He did give away a few free figs, but I don't know if they were average seedlings figs he found. I did take a few. They were also selling his other figs as mentioned. I don't think David(TFH) is a con, just trying to make sales.

I doubt that I will go to it again. I was surprised how many CRFG members were in attendance, over 50, I could have done better on my own buying on FigBid.

I have most of the rare good tasting figs so don't need to attend it any longer.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: The Fig Hunter
« on: March 02, 2024, 05:26:18 PM »
You'll get stonewalled quick trying to chat rare fruits with CRFG officers.
Call and offer some Apples next time.

Quote from: SanDiegoCherimoya on March 02, 2024, 04:27:17 PM
I'm actually hoping some of the NorCal folks tell him about this, because he has a cool mission. I think where things got screwed up is when CRFG started to F with him.

I had an experience in the the past managing a Cherimoya grove and tried to see if the SD heads of CFRG could let people know I had a big harvest before a meeting. They straight up ignored me. I got the message and showed up to the meeting giving out free cherimoya.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida Natural Farming?
« on: March 02, 2024, 03:18:57 PM »
Is there just language gymnastics going on here or am I missing something.
I don't watch alot of video's .
Which Mango Cultivar is flowering and fruiting 3 times in one 365 day cycle?

I read you harvested Mango's  during 3 season's, which is awesome! But not the same thing as 1 single Mango tree flowering and fruiting 3 separate times in 1 year.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: The Fig Hunter
« on: March 01, 2024, 04:05:26 PM »
Charging money for your work is no problem. It’s the bait and switch that is sleazy. 
Just be straight up with your business dealings and don't call your fig stick business an "exchange".

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: The Fig Hunter
« on: February 29, 2024, 01:19:42 PM »
Like Y'all said, the flyer say's exchange scions, it's the same language as the crfg scion exchange .
maybe he should just make a figbid account or wherever people pay the big bucks for the fig sticks.
 


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted different Ilama Scions
« on: February 28, 2024, 11:26:46 AM »
I've never heard of or seen any of the cultivars on this list. Has anyone seen any of these available , seed or scion , anywhere?
I think it would be easier to find fruiting Wani or russell's sweet scion.
Raul and Bob went to the Illama research stations in central america and got some cool stuff but I don't see where these could be available from. shoot for the moon though.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing rare artocarpus?
« on: February 27, 2024, 01:56:16 PM »
There are many good genus for indoor growing, Artocarpus is not one of them.
The west coast in general is pretty lacking in suitable terrain for growing any Artocarpus,
It's hard to taste these fruits before knowing if you like it enough to plant.
While Marang and Pedalai seem to have an overall favorable review , You could grow a kwai muk or lakoocha that you don't even like if and when it fruits.

 brian's greenhouse is an inspiration for zone pushing greenhouse growers.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is this common Ecuador fruit?
« on: February 27, 2024, 01:17:39 PM »
Chupa Chupa can be really good, you just have to "chupa chupa " the juice because they are fiberous .

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