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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #575 on: July 14, 2021, 05:20:26 PM »
I grafted like 6 really small scions from Shane onto three Californica's and the following is the only one that's still alive, which is a side veneer. Not sure if it's out of woods already but the graft union is healing so I am hopeful.

The other grafts died, along with the two Californica trees. It seems that Californica tends to give up on the entire branch (and tree) if all the rootstock buds are removed. For this reason, I recommend side veneer, and I suggest leaving some buds above and below the graft until you are sure that the graft takes. Be very careful - initial bud break doesn't mean much! You really need patience with Yangmei grafting.





Hey Ken nice work, looking great, so far...when did you graft the side veneer? Looking forward to seeing the progress!
Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #576 on: July 14, 2021, 09:36:31 PM »
Hi Nate, I grafted it on may 2nd. 

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #577 on: July 14, 2021, 10:55:27 PM »
Ken, that is awesome progress on the graft!

I just put a couple bud grafts, two side cleft grafts, one approach graft and one air layer on my Yangmei and M. Californica rootstock. Hopefully at least one of these will take.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #578 on: July 14, 2021, 11:49:05 PM »
Nice Simon! Stoked you did all those different grafts, should give us a good idea of what works and what doesn’t. The only grafts I attempted, and failed at, were cleft grafts.
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #579 on: July 15, 2021, 01:51:02 AM »
All 3 of my trees from group buy had side veneer grafts.
Just look at your trees.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #580 on: July 15, 2021, 02:04:57 AM »
The different trees may have had different grafts because my trees appear to have Z grafts on them.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #581 on: July 15, 2021, 11:49:14 AM »
They look like modified cleft graft to me. But what works for Yangmei to Yangmei may not work well for Yangmei to Californica.
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #582 on: July 15, 2021, 11:58:46 AM »
How about air layering when plants are larger? Think that might be the way to go for propagation.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #583 on: July 15, 2021, 12:12:20 PM »
How about air layering when plants are larger? Think that might be the way to go for propagation.
I read somewhere that Yangmei roots very slowly (like 6 months in controlled environments). I hope Simon’s AL experiment works.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #584 on: July 15, 2021, 02:56:19 PM »
Ken, it does look like a modified cleft graft.

 I received my Yangmei seedlings from Wildlands farm and nursery yesterday and Nate did a great job packaging the plants. The seedlings look like they’re several months old and about 3 inches tall. Although these seedlings cost as much as the grafted plants we received from China, it’s worth the time saved in acquiring and sprouting these seeds myself which can take over a year.

I hope to grow out these seedlings and then graft the named varieties onto them once they reach the appropriate size. Here are a few pictures.




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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #585 on: July 15, 2021, 06:23:17 PM »
Received mine yesterday too, nice and healthy.

Concur that its worthwhile,  multiple sources sure helps achieve having at least one tree. Maybe we did things just a bit out of order as the train of thought you all have posted, seedlings first as potential root stock then tree/scions second. Now its time for them to grow and be ready.

You guys rock! I'm not as clueless about sub tropical fruits after reading stuff here for the past year.



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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #586 on: July 17, 2021, 12:38:53 PM »
I cracked open several seeds from the fresh Yangmei I ate recently and was able to extract the kernel inside. I just planted them yesterday and hope they will sprout in a month or less Vs 1+ years if I didn’t remove the hard outer seed.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #587 on: July 17, 2021, 04:14:30 PM »
today my yangmai was transplanted into the ground.  It didnt have a ton of roots yet but Im hopeful it will take in its new spot.  its fully exposed to all day sun no obstructions.  i put 90% aluminet cover on it for now.  70% would have been better but all I hd was 90 aluminum.  Ill switch to 70% in a few weeks if all is well then drop to 50% hopefully if the tree starts flushing well.









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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #588 on: July 17, 2021, 05:10:46 PM »
That’s so cool.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #589 on: July 18, 2021, 03:43:38 PM »

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #590 on: July 18, 2021, 05:14:35 PM »
Nate, your plants looks good, really grew a lot in a few weeks.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #591 on: July 18, 2021, 05:28:22 PM »
Brad, that tree will hopefully take off in the ground. I see there’s a rootstock sucker as well so hopefully it’s a male! I’m going to get my trees into ground after i complete my experiments.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #592 on: July 18, 2021, 05:30:01 PM »
Nate, your tree is looking really healthy. Keep up the great growing everyone!

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« Reply #593 on: July 18, 2021, 06:53:42 PM »
Thanks guys. It’s all about that dyna gro and iron Simon! 👍🏽
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #594 on: July 18, 2021, 07:15:32 PM »
Received mine yesterday too, nice and healthy.

Concur that its worthwhile,  multiple sources sure helps achieve having at least one tree. Maybe we did things just a bit out of order as the train of thought you all have posted, seedlings first as potential root stock then tree/scions second. Now its time for them to grow and be ready.

You guys rock! I'm not as clueless about sub tropical fruits after reading stuff here for the past year.


Ken, it does look like a modified cleft graft.

 I received my Yangmei seedlings from Wildlands farm and nursery yesterday and Nate did a great job packaging the plants. The seedlings look like they’re several months old and about 3 inches tall. Although these seedlings cost as much as the grafted plants we received from China, it’s worth the time saved in acquiring and sprouting these seeds myself which can take over a year.

I hope to grow out these seedlings and then graft the named varieties onto them once they reach the appropriate size. Here are a few pictures.




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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #595 on: July 18, 2021, 07:50:14 PM »


looks great, its about to take off.  which type is yours? 
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #596 on: July 18, 2021, 10:30:11 PM »
It’s Black Peak.....psyche! (Haha remember that...) Naw it’s just Biqi.
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #598 on: July 19, 2021, 12:53:57 PM »
Group shot




2 Biqi and 3 seedlings from Nate.

Big one is going in ground soon.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #599 on: July 19, 2021, 02:16:32 PM »
Hi all,

I just brought 3 seedlings from Nat, should I transplant them to a bigger pot when I received them or let them grow a bit before transplant?

Thanks,
Al

 

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