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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Free Berry Jackfruit Seedling Seeds (Just Pay for Shipping)
« on: August 14, 2020, 06:31:45 AM »
I'm also interested. Living in portugal!
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I've done some more fact checking. The reported number of fires has been around 74,000. However, the system in Brazil is not able to discriminate between pasture burning and forest fires. Pasture burning is very common and August is the traditional time. So, no one knows exactly how much of the reported number of fires are due to deforestation activities or burning of grassland pastures. In fact, pay close attention to aerial and ground video of the fires and you will see pasture and scrub vegetation being burnt as well as previously cleared land.I find it a bit strange. One day this news is on facebook saying media is not covering this story. The next day its all over normal news. Blaming and shaming Bolsonaro. And Im no fan. Of Trump neither but I find it a bit strange that media can make fun of legal presidents like that. And it whouldnt chock me if it was true that there is a conspiracy against Bolsonaro. So easy to do. And thats how politics works this days.
The root of this appears to be related to a reported statement by President Bolsonaro in which he allegedly said some groups have been burning to embarrass him. I found that several weeks ago such a group of farmers did indeed plan a "dia do fogo" (day of fire).
here is the inception of the fires as discussed on August 5th:
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http://www.folhadoprogresso.com.br/dia-do-fogo-produtores-planejam-data-para-queimada-na-regiao/&prev=search
I agree with some of the posts here: pointing out that a country is socialist or capitalist is absolutely unhelpful and takes the conversation in an irrelevant direction. The fact is that humans consume resources, and without some type of government intervention and education, these resources will be depleted beyond sustainable levels. This is, literally the tragedy of the global commons.
That said, everything in the world is NOT simply "Media Hype" because we wither don't want to be inconvenienced by distressing realities. The Rainforests of South America are not only the planets lungs, and a major heat sink, they are a source of untapped potential ethnobotanical cures among other possibilities. Taking the large scale destruction of this biome is the absolute least we can do.
And while true the deforestation rates over the past decade have shown a slow-down, that slow-down is still not a sustainable trajectory. Couple that with the fact that this land clearing has ramped up in the last 12-18 months should not be considered an anomaly. This is human action. Not lightning strikes. What is driving that action? Poverty? Lax government oversight? Poor education? Greed?
Those last four questions need to be considered seriously.
Exploiting nature is a fundamental way of living for everyone, whether you are a Capitalist, Communist, Socialist or any other kind of -ist. The question is what is the effects on the area you are employing for your survival. The Amazon basin is pretty darn important for our planetary system as a whole. It makes a bunch of the oxygen we breathe, and a lot of CO2 that our trees need to feed us. I don't think anyone is shaming the Brazilians or the Bolivians. And when you try to shame the EU or USA think about how much aid we send annually to those areas.
If somebody knows where to find this one in europe, portugal, then let me knowHi! You only want a scion or want to buy a tree?