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Amazing Jaboticabas
« on: January 26, 2012, 10:00:29 PM »
Hey Jaboticaba lovers, check this out ! These incredible Jaboticabas are grown by my friend George in Parkland FL which is near my home.  He has over 30 Jabos in the ground including 8 or 10 that are over 20 years old. Some years he gets 3 to 4 large crops per year. He sells almost every one to the local Brazilians who go crazy over them! I have never seen more prolific trees than his. He uses lots of mulch and waters a bunch too. Besides the Florida guys, which other forum members have fruited Jabos?     

 


 



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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2012, 10:02:15 PM »
Nice Ones!!

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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2012, 10:14:40 PM »
wow great pics
i have gotten my jab to produce 3 fruit so far which considering i have only owned it for 3 years and it is a container and I live in NYC, is pretty damn cool! I know robert who lives in Missouri has also gotten his jab to produce a handful of fruit.
FGM- can you find out if your friend has any ripe jabs at the moment and if he has, whether I might be able to stop by on friday to buy some (I am in FLL till saturday)

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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2012, 10:18:44 PM »
These photos were from late summer so I doubt he has any fruit right now.
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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2012, 12:25:45 AM »
Wow, amazing is a good description, Jabos are such beautiful trees esp. when in fruit.

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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2012, 12:30:35 AM »
wow great pics
i have gotten my jab to produce 3 fruit so far which considering i have only owned it for 3 years and it is a container and I live in NYC, is pretty damn cool! I know robert who lives in Missouri has also gotten his jab to produce a handful of fruit.
FGM- can you find out if your friend has any ripe jabs at the moment and if he has, whether I might be able to stop by on friday to buy some (I am in FLL till saturday)

Too bad you smote me all those times lycheeluva! ;D ;)  I have ripe jabos year round, of the special Red hybrid variety!!! Have nice bunch now...but I think I'll let the cat birds sit in their fabled seat, and enjoy them per usual...they seem to leave me the seed, which is of most importance to me. :)
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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2012, 05:46:49 AM »
Jaboticaba is a very common backyard tree in Hawaii. During season you can easily find them for sale at the farmer's markets.
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2012, 03:31:38 PM »
Those are absolutely incredible!

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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2012, 03:57:36 PM »
Hey Jaboticaba lovers, check this out ! These incredible Jaboticabas are grown by my friend George in Parkland FL which is near my home.  He has over 30 Jabos in the ground including 8 or 10 that are over 20 years old. Some years he gets 3 to 4 large crops per year. He sells almost every one to the local Brazilians who go crazy over them! I have never seen more prolific trees than his. He uses lots of mulch and waters a bunch too. Besides the Florida guys, which other forum members have fruited Jabos?     

 




Awesome pics,amazing what some folks can do!
 
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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2012, 12:39:06 AM »
Noel,
Does he have any other jabuticaba species?

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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2012, 01:37:02 PM »
George only has M. cauliflora but he does have some large fruited ones 
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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2012, 02:14:48 PM »
Noel,
Does he have any other jabuticaba species?

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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2012, 07:01:26 PM »
All these central Florida jaboticaba...do you protect them from frost? How cold does it get where you have jaboticaba fruiting? I have been covering, but not heating, my jaboticaba and it is doing fine so far down to 24. And it survived all the terrible freezes/cold weather we had last winter.
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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2012, 08:10:34 PM »
Is  JABUTICABEIRA a real word?
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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2012, 08:38:10 PM »
Is  JABUTICABEIRA a real word?

Yes in portuguese; and it's even the name of a town in Brazil.
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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2012, 10:02:15 PM »

Hi Noel,

In Portuguese, the name of the fruit tree is usually derived from the name of fruit by
adding the suffix "-eira" (often by also removing the trailing vowel, with some exceptions).

Its like in English when "tree" follows the fruit name, as in "apple tree", or in Spanish using the suffix "-era"

Some examples:

jabuticaba -> jabuticabeira
laranja ->laranjeira (orange)
banana -> bananeira
ameixa -> ameixeira (plum)
anona -> anoneira (cherimoya)
manga -> mangueira (mango), incidentally "mangueira" is also the portuguese word for "hose" so it kind of sounds funny. And, since, "manga" also means "sleeve", a literal translation might come out as "Hose that bears sleeves".  ;D

As for fruit names with tilde (~), the rule is similar but the vowel with the tilde is replaced.
limão -> limoeiro (lemon)
mamão -> mamoeiro (papaya)
maçã -> macieira (apple)
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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2012, 10:02:57 PM »
Is  JABUTICABEIRA a real word?

Also is the word for jabuticaba tree in general...like saying jaboticaba tree...not just jaboticaba, so it distinctly refers to the tree itself...
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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2012, 10:05:28 PM »

Hi Noel,

In Portuguese, the name of the fruit tree is usually derived from the name of fruit by
adding the suffix "-eira" (often by also removing the trailing vowel, with some exceptions).

Its like in English when "tree" follows the fruit name, as in "apple tree", or in Spanish using the suffix "-era"

Some examples:

jabuticaba -> jabuticabeira
laranja ->laranjeira (orange)
banana -> bananeira
ameixa -> ameixeira (plum)
anona -> anoneira (cherimoya)
manga -> mangueira (mango), incidentally "mangueira" is also the portuguese word for "hose" so it kind of sounds funny. And, since, "manga" also means "sleeve", a literal translation might come out as "Hose that bears sleeves".  ;D

As for fruit names with tilde (~), the rule is similar but the vowel with the tilde is replaced.
limão -> limoeiro (lemon)
mamão -> mamoeiro (papaya)
maçã -> macieira (apple)

saifu,

I got the warning that someone was posting at same time!! iT was you posting same answer!!! LOL

That is how I was using the word, referring to the trees!!! We have the best jabuticabeira in USA here in central FL, besides outside of Brazil of course!!!
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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2012, 10:12:41 PM »
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We have the best jabuticabeira in USA here in central FL, besides outside of Brazil of course!!!

Are you sure about that? Not! Getting Florida-centric on me again? You need to check out some giant jaboticaba trees over here!
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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2012, 10:40:04 PM »
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We have the best jabuticabeira in USA here in central FL, besides outside of Brazil of course!!!

Are you sure about that? Not! Getting Florida-centric on me again? You need to check out some giant jaboticaba trees over here!
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I think its beyond Florida-centric, its Adam-centric...after all, there are tropical fruit trees growing south of Central Florida, and can even be grown in the ground.
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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2012, 04:31:24 AM »
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We have the best jabuticabeira in USA here in central FL, besides outside of Brazil of course!!!

Are you sure about that? Not! Getting Florida-centric on me again? You need to check out some giant jaboticaba trees over here!
Oscar
I think its beyond Florida-centric, its Adam-centric...after all, there are tropical fruit trees growing south of Central Florida, and can even be grown in the ground.

Oscar, and Bsbullie,

I am always FL centric, but In my defense I must say, that Hawaii is hard for me to keep considering a part of the USA, due to the fact that I and just about everyone I know hasn't been, and can't afford to go, and it's a small group of islands in the middle of the ocean. 

These are just my feelings, and I wish I could go to Hawaii, and take part more in what goes on there....but you are just too damn far away for me to come...so I keep forgetting your not just some random group of Polynesian islands.

Nothing against Hawaii, I'm sure you guys have amazing jaboticaba there...I keep forgetting to say within the 48 contiguous states... ;) not the whole of USA...U know Alaska has some nice ones to! :o 

BSBULLIE,as far as South FL, compared to Central FL, for growing jaboticaba in the ground...if you don't keep on your tree with chelated Fe, you are not going to have a pretty tree...and the most beautiful trees are in Central FL in my opinion due to the soil composition and ph.

Go ahead and plant in the ground...have you seen what fruit and spice parks jaboticabas look like? Nice yes...but the really sensitive varieties like M. glazioviana, and M. aureana look like crap...all because they planted in the ground and gave the tree the wrong growing environmental conditions...so no I haven't forgot about the good growers and huge trees down south, but I have compared the two growing regions and how the plants look...trust me...the cambuca at fruit and spice looks like garbage compared to the one up here near Orlando, and even the regular varieties in my opinion are generally much more established and healthy looking than those planted in south FL soils.

There is much more than you think going on up here in Central FL, especially in the realm of Myrciaria and Plinia.  I've seen first hand, many jaboticaba trees all over FL, from Homestead to Jacksonville, and have found that here in Central FL  is a hidden world of giant gorgeous Jaboticabas, of many varieties.

One day maybe I'll give you a tour....or you can just look at my photos..I have photographed one of the most beautiful specimens I have seen...although the picture doesn't do it justice, the M. spirito santesis, is a truly stunning tree, and I don't believe it would grow as well further South, by Dade Co.  Same for M. truncilfora, and the M. caulifora hybrids.
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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2012, 08:41:11 AM »
I have two trees, one has fruited repeatedly, though sparsely.  After reading the previous thread, I have begun to wonder if the trees have had too much shade.  I'm anxious to get them out of the GH this spring and see what they can do with more sun.

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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2012, 08:59:17 AM »
robert, can you post a pic of your two jab trees. i want to compare their size to mine. also, when did you purchase your larger tree

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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2012, 10:01:44 AM »
Oscar,
The city in Brazil that you are referring to is called "Jaboticabal" and not jabuticabeira.  Jaboticabal is located in the state of Sao Paulo in the southeast of Brazil.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaboticabal 

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Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2012, 10:56:21 AM »
"Jaboticabal" means orchard of jabuticabeiras...

Continuing with the Portuguese lesson,  :D

Adding the "-al" ending to the fruit name (or, in some cases the fruit trees) denotes an orchard/collection of that particular species.  This usage is, however, somewhat limited. In the other cases, we use the generic term "pomar" as in orchard.

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