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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Papayas
« on: November 26, 2012, 09:25:30 PM »
wow alot of papaya fruit...
nice trees

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some popular cultivar of jambu air/ wax jambu here in indonesia:
- Black Diamond
- Black Kingkong
- Cincalo Hijau
- Cincalo Semarang
- Citra
- Dalhari
- Irung Petruk
- Kancing
- King Rose
- Lilin Hijau
- Lilin Merah
- Mutiara Hitam 
- Pink Rose
- Semarang
- Sukaluyu
- Toonklow


jambu air lilin hijau


black kingkong



kingrose


blackpearl


sukaluyu



jambu air CITRA

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nice picture of bonsai..

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kepel (Stelechocarpus burahol)
« on: May 08, 2012, 05:30:00 AM »
Bocah I don't know that white jambu but you would love the giant sweet seedless chomphu (Syzigium samarangense) from thailand especially chanthaburi red and black pearl varieties.I cannot bring them here because of the tough australian import rules.i do grow mangosteen,durian, sapodilla and many others in Java.Your jackfruit has many small fruit like a chempadak.Does it have orange inside and have variety name?
Mike

actually nangkadak is new variety..see below explanation

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Jackfruit /nangka (Artocarpus heterophyllus) is one of the fruits of high economic value, because the ripe fruit can be eaten fresh or processed into various foods such as chips, dodol or a mixture of ice pieces. Jackfruit has the properties: large fruit weight (5-40 pounds), peeled the skin is difficult due to high resin content, the color yellow to orange flesh, crisp flesh texture, chewy until soft, thick flesh is protected Dami attached to the skin, and a sense of sweet fruit to tasteless.





 
Cempedak (Artocarpus integer Murr.) Has the properties: small fruit weight (3-4 kg), skin and flesh easily removed or peeled fruit, fruit are relatively sticky, pale yellow flesh color, fruit flesh is smooth and thin with a fibrous texture, flavor sweet, and crisp fruit flavors.
>>cempedak




Nangkadak (nangka+cempedak=nangkadak) ais the result of combining the superior properties of two different species of the jackfruit and cempedak. Nangkadak address the needs of consumers to obtain an ideal jackfruit fruit is small eat out at all, easy to peel, not sticky, scented soft and sweet taste.
Cempedak breeding jackfruit with 4 fixing properties at once, namely:
 - Fruit size is smaller (so that the fruit was eaten up)
- Easy to peel the fruit (impractical and not sticky)
- Thick fleshy, soft scented with sweet flavor.
- Plant early maturing and productive, at the age of two years from the planting has begun to bear fruit.
>>nangkadak
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about wax apple..it is origin is indonesia
 variety from thailand that your mention actually lokal variety here..the thaifarmer bring the seed to their country,plant it and they give a new name ,like chompu ,Thong Sam Sie and other
the same case happen with taiwan wax apple variety like black diamond dan black pearl

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kepel (Stelechocarpus burahol)
« on: May 08, 2012, 04:11:46 AM »
Great information Bocah and I chopped my kepels down even though they looked nice.They would have become to tall and too big.Do you have Yogyarta pondoh snake fruit,thai wax apple, durian  and mangosteen ?
Cheers
Mike
nope...idont have salak pondoh (snake fruit),
i also dont have durian tree since it will become a very big tree after years.and i dont like a big tree...
nowadays mangosteen is very popular here, since the research claim that the rind of this fruit   can cure cancer (contain xanthones - an antioxidant and antiaging) . and iam still searching for the best cultivar seed


but i have 4 variety of wax apple (we call it jambu air): jambu citra ( a good cultivar from indonesia, big size and very sweet), jambu kancing merah (small wax apple/red button wax apple), jambu air putih (white wax apple), dan jambu air lilin hijau (green wax apple)

but right now iam hunting the seed of a very rare indonesia white small wax apple named nasi-nasi...
here the picture of the fruit from google




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kepel (Stelechocarpus burahol)
« on: May 08, 2012, 01:41:48 AM »
Bocah, thanks for the nice photo and translation. Can you say please what the source of this information is? Is it an agricultural website in Java?



http://ureport.vivanews.com/news/read/297137-buah-kepel--deodoran-alam-yang-langka

Fruit pulp, seeds and roots Kepel contain saponins, flavonoids and polyphenols, in addition, the seeds also contain alkaloids, and its leaves contain flavonoids and polyphenols.
source: http://tanamanobat.org/452/kepel/

university research (Bogor Agricultural University)
Kepel (Stelechocarpus burahol) was a fruit which found in Indonesia and it was believed can reduce the odor from excreta such as faeces and urine. This research was aimed to show the effect of kepel (Stelechocarpus burahol) fructus simplicia on reducing odor emitted from excreta by ammonia, trimethylamine, and fenol content in mice faecal. Total of 18 mices (Mus musculus) were used in this study. They were devided into 2 groups; negative control group and kepel fruits peel powder treated group. The dose of kepel was 2,6 mg/ gram body weight and was given orally every day for seven days. The collected faeces was analyzed for ammonia and trymethylamine content by titration methode and for phenol content by using spectrophotometry methode. The result showed that kepel signifficantly reduce ammonia content 75,5% and phenol content 42,4 % in faeces after seven days, but it has not signifficant for trimethylamine content.
http://repository.ipb.ac.id/handle/123456789/53964


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kepel (Stelechocarpus burahol)
« on: May 08, 2012, 01:12:13 AM »
just posting an article about kepel, translating by google translate

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Kepel, that's the name for the fruit called latin Stelechocarpus burahol this.  The name was given because of the size of the fruit is brown and round it's just an adult fist.  In addition to Kepel, the fruit is also known by the name burahol.

 Kepel Fruit is quite attractive.  Unlike the usual fruit attached to the branches and twigs, fruit Kepel spreading it around the main stem of trees which reach a diameter of 40 cm.  Kepel including rare plants in Indonesia.

This tree was formerly known as the nobility crop because only the people of the court and nobility are allowed to grow.

 The fruit is useful to maintain the beauty of the princess of Mataram kingdom (old java kingdom).  Only by eating the ripe fruit , the princess sweat and breath .  just Like to use a natural deodorant.

Ripe fruit with black seeds contained in it can be eaten fresh.  Orange-colored flesh and give smell like roses mixed with sapodilla fruit.  Due to the strong smell of scent was still able to feel the aroma in the excretion of body systems such as urine, sweat, and breath.

 In medicine, the fruit serves as a laxative urine, preventing inflammation of the kidneys and cause infertility (temporary) in women.  The wood is suitable for home furnishings; a straight trunk a few months after immersion in water, used for house building materials and the reported resistance of more than 50 years.

 Kepel is an ornamental plant with beautiful trees.  The leaves that appear at once changed from pale pink to red to purple before it turns again into a brilliant green.  Stature tree or pyramid-shaped cylindrical with many lateral branches are arranged systematically, and its kauliflor (cauliflory) add to its beauty.

 Unfortunately, trees are unique and interesting this is now rare here in java island.  Not easy to find this Kepel plants in other areas.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mango tree collection
« on: May 07, 2012, 10:04:58 PM »
here some useful information about khio jay mango from my friend web:

info about khio jay mango 1


info about khio jay mango 2


info about khio jay mango 3


you can use google translate to translate it from bahasa indonesia to english

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mango tree collection
« on: May 07, 2012, 10:01:33 PM »
Hi Bocah
Welcome to the forum and thanks for the beautiful pix of your plants....what kind of wax jambu? it look so nice....
cheers
DT
its jambu kancing merah /red button jambu

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mango tree collection
« on: May 07, 2012, 10:43:04 AM »
Hey bocah it is amazing what you are doing in pots. Here in Australia we would say nam doc mai as well but the other one could be chocadam.Does it fruit right through the year and sometimes get jellyseed?What is your sapodilla behind the mango?
(for some fruit tree) it is more easy to have fruit on your tree when you plant it in pot  rather then if you plant it in ground. in pot, you can control the nutrition/water/light needed by your tree.
its local (indonesia) sapodilla

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mango tree collection
« on: May 07, 2012, 10:31:44 AM »
Ah ha.....I just welcomed you in the introduction thread and you've answered one of my questions here.  Thanks.  Now, more information please.  Two of these culitvars of mango are  new to me.  Numdhocmai has been spelled here as Nam Doc Mai and Chau Ka Nan has been spelled (mis-spelled many ways here....when I first heard of this culitvar from Thailand, it was spelled Chou Anon.  Since then, I have seen Choc Anon and Choc Arnon.  No matter, as long as we know what we are talking about.  The transliteration from Thai to English or other languages is imperfect.  In any case, I have never heard of Nirvana or Khio Jay and would very much appreciate a description of the fruit from an eating quality stand point.  Also, pictures of the interior of the mangoes when you have the opportunity.  Thanks in advance.

Harry
dont too worry about the name...i think we can call it namdokmai, num dhok mai, or num dok mai ..khio jay is very famous in indonesia,actually it is a thailand cultivar. khiojay mango weight can achieve 2 kg each. its a big manggo fruit and just like other thailand mango cultivar, its sweet when ripe or even when not ripe enough,and also fiberless
. the color when ripe is green.but i cannot find further information about this mango.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jakfruit cultivars in Florida
« on: May 07, 2012, 05:56:22 AM »
indonesia kalikedung jackfruit



nangkadak var


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mango tree collection
« on: May 07, 2012, 05:32:07 AM »
nirvana mango


bonus pic

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / mango tree collection
« on: May 07, 2012, 04:58:28 AM »
just share some pic of mango trees

khio jay mango


numdhocmai


chau ka nan


unknown

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: May 07, 2012, 04:19:14 AM »
introducing my self ...im from indonesia..



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