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Title: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: miracle on October 21, 2015, 04:45:21 PM
Does any one successful grow a soursop and fruits regularly in Southern California (10a, 10b zone)? Does any one have a soursop tree that grows in ground more than 10 years? Thank you
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: michsu on October 21, 2015, 04:47:58 PM
I just started one.. an air-layered sunrise variety.. but just planted that about two weeks ago.. haha.. so I'll answer your question in 10 years..  ;D
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: miracle on October 21, 2015, 04:56:53 PM
Thanks, michsu,
I saw to many soursop trees for sale at Geen Mart @91&57 freeway.  Just wonder? Cool is a biggest draw back for these soursop.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: michsu on October 21, 2015, 05:05:41 PM
yeah, let's see how long my soursop will last.. it's a 7 gallon one, so it should survive a FEW days at least.. actually it started growing small leaves so far.. Like I showed you last time, I have lots of tropical stuff too.. I'm also trying to grow all the goodies.. all the annonas just die back a little during those 30s.. but that's about it.. the rest of the year they keep on growing.. I'm not worried about the cold.. more about the heat of 100+ degree days we got.. like the last week one where we had 105 for two days.. How was I supposed to know there would be 105s in the middle of October?  :-\ One group of my trees came and two dropped all their leaves (Biew Kiew longan and Sweetheart Lychee) thanks to those two days.. The soursop and ilama are growing new leaves, so that's good.. Hopefully this next group of trees this Saturday will be better (Coconut Cream, Sweet Tart, Kohala, Santol, Pantin, Black Sapote) because the weather shouldn't be hot this weekend..  ;D
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: JF on October 21, 2015, 05:56:04 PM
Does any one successful grow a soursop and fruits regularly in Southern California (10a, 10b zone)? Does any one have a soursop tree that grows in ground more than 10 years? Thank you

In April 2016 will be three years since my soursop has been in the ground,  it's 10-12'. I have a Cuban fiberless that's be on the ground for over 1 year and its 6' this one is hardier it did not loose leaves last year
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: michsu on October 21, 2015, 06:38:24 PM
quit doing that JF! haha, you are always one step ahead of me..  ;D
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: miracle on October 22, 2015, 01:01:24 AM
I  am afraid the most are the wet plus cold weather more than normal occurs every three or four years or so in Southern California.  Your trees are growing healthy for three or four years, then snap; one year wet and super cold weather, it killed your tree from the roots up. 
Another reason is your young fruits will not survive through the winter...then, fruits will dried up.

Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: sdtury on October 22, 2015, 03:59:49 PM
Does any one successful grow a soursop and fruits regularly in Southern California (10a, 10b zone)? Does any one have a soursop tree that grows in ground more than 10 years? Thank you


My 7' tall soursop tree is putting out some new growth and blooming (first time).. Its been in the ground almost 2 years.  During winter about half of the leaves fall off..  Today I counted about 20 not fully developed flowers..    ;D.   
(http://s18.postimg.cc/k7je4oi05/IMG_20151022_113207_3.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/k7je4oi05/)
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: michsu on October 22, 2015, 04:32:06 PM
nice job! then I hope mine can fruit within a year or two too..  ;D
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: nch on October 22, 2015, 04:39:42 PM
Does any one successful grow a soursop and fruits regularly in Southern California (10a, 10b zone)? Does any one have a soursop tree that grows in ground more than 10 years? Thank you


My 7' tall soursop tree is putting out some new growth and blooming (first time).. Its been in the ground almost 2 years.  During winter about half of the leaves fall off..  Today I counted about 20 not fully developed flowers..    ;D.   
([url]http://s18.postimg.cc/k7je4oi05/IMG_20151022_113207_3.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://postimg.cc/image/k7je4oi05/[/url])


Is your tree planted in full sun, or in the shade? I have a soursop I would like to put in the ground, but I am unsure about the location in the yard.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: JF on October 22, 2015, 04:46:25 PM
Does any one successful grow a soursop and fruits regularly in Southern California (10a, 10b zone)? Does any one have a soursop tree that grows in ground more than 10 years? Thank you


My 7' tall soursop tree is putting out some new growth and blooming (first time).. Its been in the ground almost 2 years.  During winter about half of the leaves fall off..  Today I counted about 20 not fully developed flowers..    ;D.   
([url]http://s18.postimg.cc/k7je4oi05/IMG_20151022_113207_3.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://postimg.cc/image/k7je4oi05/[/url])


Very impressive A. Make sure you hard pollinate if you are unsure of how to HP soursop call me or  drop me an email I'll give you instructions.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: michsu on October 22, 2015, 06:09:00 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: JF on October 22, 2015, 11:52:27 PM
After I read A's revealing post of a flowering guanabana in SD I got my flahlight out this evening and decided to inspect my tree. To my surprise I found a bunch of little flowers starting to push and 2 fruitlets amazing!


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(http://s28.postimg.cc/savoc5vtl/IMG_8402.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/savoc5vtl/)

(http://s28.postimg.cc/kscj3j4gp/IMG_8403.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/kscj3j4gp/)
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: sdtury on October 22, 2015, 11:57:04 PM
NCH-  my tree is planted in full sun, it doesn't get affected by hot weather,  at least not in San Diego where the hottest temps we get are usually in the mid 90's..

JF-   I'm gonna need instructions on how to hand pollinate,   I'll send you an e-mail as soon as I see fully developed flowers..
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: JF on October 23, 2015, 12:00:35 AM
NCH-  my tree is planted in full sun, it doesn't get affected by hot weather,  at least not in San Diego where the hottest temps we get are usually in the mid 90's..

JF-   I'm gonna need instructions on how to hand pollinate,   I'll send you an e-mail as soon as I see fully developed flowers..

Ok take pix and let me know
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: nch on October 23, 2015, 01:30:21 AM
JF, is HP soursops the same as HP cherimoyas? Is your tree in full sun too? When my tree was about a foot long, I noticed it got leaf burn when left in full sun. It's now in a pot under a pomegranate tree, and it's thriving.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: HoangNguyen on October 23, 2015, 03:26:28 PM
After I read A's revealing post of a flowering guanabana in SD I got my flahlight out this evening and decided to inspect my tree. To my surprise I found a bunch of little flowers starting to push and 2 fruitlets amazing!


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JF, is the soursop, which has flowers, the Cuban fiberless seedling?  It is not even 3 yrs old and has flowers.  Congratulation.  I have Hawaiian soursop seedling.  It is about over 1 yr old.  I am afraid of it may not survive through winter in my area.  I recently grafted it on my cherimoya seedling.  You saw my post the other day.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: WaterFowler on October 24, 2015, 02:53:29 PM
When my tree was about a foot long, I noticed it got leaf burn when left in full sun. It's now in a pot under a pomegranate tree, and it's thriving.

My 1-2ft Cherimoya seedlings started to suffer in our dry heat when temps climbed up over 100(even in 60% shade) . The ones that survived are just now making a comeback. My soursop seedlings did much better in the heat. They didn't grow at all when temps went over 105 and stayed there, but looked ok. My few sugar apple seedlings did the best in the heat by far, they grew like weeds during the summer, and didn't show any sunburn when I put them in full sun, after temps started dropping below 105.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: JF on October 24, 2015, 04:31:43 PM
After I read A's revealing post of a flowering guanabana in SD I got my flahlight out this evening and decided to inspect my tree. To my surprise I found a bunch of little flowers starting to push and 2 fruitlets amazing!


([url]http://s28.postimg.cc/gkhqus315/IMG_8401.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://postimg.cc/image/gkhqus315/[/url])

([url]http://s28.postimg.cc/savoc5vtl/IMG_8402.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://postimg.cc/image/savoc5vtl/[/url])

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JF, is the soursop, which has flowers, the Cuban fiberless seedling?  It is not even 3 yrs old and has flowers.  Congratulation.  I have Hawaiian soursop seedling.  It is about over 1 yr old.  I am afraid of it may not survive through winter in my area.  I recently grafted it on my cherimoya seedling.  You saw my post the other day.


 No Hoang, it's the other seedling I have. I check on my Cuban fiberless and it appears that it's also going to flower. I talked to a friend from Chula Vista yesterday and he said his guanabana is throwing flowers like crazy and holding fruits! With El nino and a warm winter down the road it's the year of the Guanabana here in Socal.

Cuba Fiberless'
(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af304/culov/Tropica%20fruits/IMG_5089.jpg)
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: gozp on October 26, 2015, 03:41:25 PM
Glad to see some guyabano/guanabana tree lovers here.

How many varieties do soursop have? Thanks
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: miracle on October 27, 2015, 11:54:51 AM
Follow JF, sdtury, michsu...Here is my soursop... :) :) :)go for the limit.  Now, pray for mild winter  :D

Seedling soursop tree in a small pot for $69.99 at Green Mart
(http://s16.postimg.cc/av0ws5lyp/20151026_154313.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/av0ws5lyp/)

Inground
(http://s10.postimg.cc/3tye7k211/20151027_071002.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/3tye7k211/)
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Samu on March 02, 2017, 01:15:52 AM
Well, does anyone has any success in fruiting their Soursop, yet?
If so, how hard it is to keep it to stay alive through the Winter?

A photo or two would be very helpful to encourage me (and others?) to try to grow this in Southern California..., thanks!

Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Schutzhund on March 02, 2017, 01:33:54 AM
I have my guanabana in a 15 gallon next to my mango tree, and it's doing pretty fine
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: alangr088 on March 02, 2017, 11:37:54 AM
All the leaves fell off of my seedling that I got from Mimosa nursery. It has been in the ground since spring of 2016. Its about 2.5 feet tall...trunk is about the thickness of a quarter. I scratched the skin by the trunk and it was dark brown... but I scratched the skin of the branches at the top of the tree and it was green. I am assuming that it is still alive and didn't die since the branches up top are still green under the skin. Also, I have it planted about 5 feet from a south facing wall so it does not receive any sun throughout this whole time...it is in the shade. In the summer it gets full sun.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: WaterFowler on March 02, 2017, 12:24:29 PM
All the leaves fell off of my seedling that I got from Mimosa nursery. It has been in the ground since spring of 2016. Its about 2.5 feet tall...trunk is about the thickness of a quarter. I scratched the skin by the trunk and it was dark brown... but I scratched the skin of the branches at the top of the tree and it was green. I am assuming that it is still alive and didn't die since the branches up top are still green under the skin. Also, I have it planted about 5 feet from a south facing wall so it does not receive any sun throughout this whole time...it is in the shade. In the summer it gets full sun.

It may be very well dead from the ground up. That's what happened to one of my Sweet Tart mangoes I planted on my parent's ranch. I had plastic surrounding the tree, but a wind blew the plastic over during or after the heavy rains. I  have been busy, and hadn't been over there in like 3 weeks. So with the plastic sitting on top of it, it stayed in a super humid environment sitting in cold soggy roots for too long, and it died from the ground up. The top of the tree was green under the bark, but it was dead at the trunk when I found it in this condition. Now it's completely dead.  :-[ It was in filtered sunlight so I know it wasn't greenhouse induced heat damage.

On a side note, I had 2 in-ground 2 foot soursop seedlings underneath a tree that lost all its leaves during the winter. It got down to 27 degrees and killed one for sure. But it looks like one of the 2 is growing back. I'm surprised on how tough some of these subtropicals are. The cold got the one soursop, all the papayas, and one sapodilla (I thought they were tough?). But all the mangoes, except the one mentioned, came through like a champ. Even the tropical guavas all survived and are rapidly growing back leaves.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: alangr088 on March 02, 2017, 01:19:49 PM
Yea it appears Guanabana is a bit strenuous for me to grow in SoCal (at least in the microclimate I live in) which is influenced by the coast. If it did die which I'll find out in a couple of months I will pull it out and Replace with Cherimoya.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Schutzhund on March 02, 2017, 06:39:56 PM
Here's mine

(https://s4.postimg.cc/6648gjw55/1488497958380_735354774.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6648gjw55/)
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: JF on March 02, 2017, 07:50:11 PM
Well, does anyone has any success in fruiting their Soursop, yet?
If so, how hard it is to keep it to stay alive through the Winter?

A photo or two would be very helpful to encourage me (and others?) to try to grow this in Southern California..., thanks!

Sam

It's challenging. If you can find one that flowers in April you will fruit it easy. I'm getting closer with cuban fiberless
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: alangr088 on March 03, 2017, 09:56:11 AM
I was hoping someone would post some pictures of Guanabanas on their tree from past years, it would be motivational.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: gozp on March 03, 2017, 01:54:34 PM
I just started one.. an air-layered sunrise variety.. but just planted that about two weeks ago.. haha.. so I'll answer your question in 10 years..  ;D


Here is michsu's current sunrise soursop ..


(https://s11.postimg.cc/7alo9fhz3/Screenshot_20170303_105225.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/7alo9fhz3/)
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Samu on March 03, 2017, 02:59:09 PM
I see no fruits on these 2 photos:

Here's mine

(https://s4.postimg.cc/6648gjw55/1488497958380_735354774.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6648gjw55/)



I just started one.. an air-layered sunrise variety.. but just planted that about two weeks ago.. haha.. so I'll answer your question in 10 years..  ;D


Here is michsu's current sunrise soursop ..


(https://s11.postimg.cc/7alo9fhz3/Screenshot_20170303_105225.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/7alo9fhz3/)



I've seen Soursop tree with it's fruits hanging...but they were Florida grown.

As JF said, it's challenging to fruit Soursop in SoCal, so I am beginning
to have doubt if this tree is suitable for me...


Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: EvilFruit on March 05, 2017, 03:52:03 PM
Mountain soursop is more cold hardy than soursop, It will certainly do better in Socal.

I believe someone in Socal should try to graft soursop on Mountain soursop rootstock and see what happens because it might work.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Bush2Beach on March 06, 2017, 11:55:16 AM
Mountain soursop is more cold hardy than soursop, It will certainly do better in Socal.

I believe someone in Socal should try to graft soursop on Mountain soursop rootstock and see what happens because it might work.

True. I've been growin mountain soursop for 3 years , over 3 winters now in Nor Cal.
I got seeds from TREC , it seems like they are not around as much as regular soursop on the TFF.
My untimely Rollinia grafts on M. Soursop did not take.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: JF on March 06, 2017, 12:58:46 PM
I believe Mark Lee of Chula Vista fruits them but he has an early flowering soursop mine have flowered in late sept thru dec. if I can get them to bloom the same time as Mark it would be just another fruiting anona
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: GP on May 30, 2017, 01:19:39 PM
After seeing all your trees flower, did any of them mature into fruit? I have a 2 year old, 6 1/2 foot tall tree and I'm thinking I may see some flowers this year or next. It only lost about half of its leaves this past winter even with it being so cold and wet most of the time.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: miracle on May 31, 2017, 12:55:42 AM
Follow JF, sdtury, michsu...Here is my soursop... :) :) :)go for the limit.  Now, pray for mild winter  :D

Seedling soursop tree in a small pot for $69.99 at Green Mart
([url]http://s16.postimg.cc/av0ws5lyp/20151026_154313.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://postimg.cc/image/av0ws5lyp/[/url])

Inground
([url]http://s10.postimg.cc/3tye7k211/20151027_071002.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://postimg.cc/image/3tye7k211/[/url])

My tree died last winter.😂
No more soursop for me.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Samu on May 31, 2017, 10:18:55 AM
"My tree died last winter.😂
No more soursop for me."


Wow..., that's discouraging news for us in California!
Did you put up any protection this past Winter, Micracle?

If not, then this is probably what we need to do: give it
some Winter protection, especially when they are still young
in order for us in CA to have a change of Soursop
tree fruiting especially when they are still young...?

How about yours, JF and Michsu and others, did you guys gave
any Winter protection?
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Hana321 on May 31, 2017, 03:09:11 PM
I have a small Soursop tree in a gallon pot. It is quite happy right now, but it hasn't been through a winter here yet. We typically see winter temperatures down into the mid to low 30's. It is not grounded so I can move it into a more sheltered location. I also have some garden blankets, so we will see how it goes.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: GP on May 31, 2017, 04:41:43 PM
I got mine from Emily garden nursery in Santa Ana and I asked the woman there if the trees she had made it through the winter and she said yes. I bought mine back in March and planted it around Easter Sunday. Temperatures in my area rarely, if ever, make it under 40. Usually the coldest is about 43 so I figure it should be fine if it had already made it through this past winter of record rain and prolonged cold temps.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: AnnonaMangoLord45 on May 31, 2017, 05:33:02 PM
I also got my soursop tree from greenmart, mines is still going strong, putting out a nice flush, show u guys pics when i go back home
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Hana321 on May 31, 2017, 05:46:54 PM
I gotta find this Greenmart place. I am isolated on the surface of the sun aka the Coachella Valley. It sucks because they never have anything even remotely interesting here at the local nurseries. I have committed much time, and gas to traveling all over southern California in search of what is classed as exotics here. I have accrued a nice collection this past year. Traveled around, and had some shipped in with painful shipping charges. I am classed here as a 9b, but it seems exceedingly rare for my area to drop below 30. That said I am out in no man's land with some of the trees I am trying to grow. nobody around me has any experience with these plants. Odd man out for sure.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: gozp on May 31, 2017, 06:56:40 PM
My soursops were unprotected all throughout this winter.

They survived the winter. The lowest temperature we had in the valley was 29 f for 3 hours....


Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: GP on May 31, 2017, 07:29:00 PM
My soursops were unprotected all throughout this winter.

They survived the winter. The lowest temperature we had in the valley was 29 f for 3 hours....




How old are your soursops?
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Samu on June 01, 2017, 01:18:53 AM
I gotta find this Greenmart place. I am isolated on the surface of the sun aka the Coachella Valley. It sucks because they never have anything even remotely interesting here at the local nurseries. I have committed much time, and gas to traveling all over southern California in search of what is classed as exotics here. I have accrued a nice collection this past year. Traveled around, and had some shipped in with painful shipping charges. I am classed here as a 9b, but it seems exceedingly rare for my area to drop below 30. That said I am out in no man's land with some of the trees I am trying to grow. nobody around me has any experience with these plants. Odd man out for sure.

Hi Hana,
Got to tip my hat for your determination in growing fruit trees in such an arid condition like Coachela Valley. But, please don't be despair, there's "Mangofang", one of our Hero member who also live in your  valley (Palm Springs) that seems to have success in growing mangos and many other tropicals.

And also, you and many others can find encouragements by watching this man's video in Youtube: "VeganAthete", who has successfully growing edible gardens and fruit trees in his desert home in Phoenix, Arizona...! Here's one of his many postings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bcRUESwD08 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bcRUESwD08)

Ok, back to the topic: Soursop.
The reason I worry about growing it, is that I had one, about 6 ft tall that died 2 Winters ago. And as I recalled, that year's Winter was very "mild"...so I decided not to give it any protection. I guess I was wrong!  :(
But I am willing to try it again, this time I'll try to be more careful...  :)
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: gozp on June 01, 2017, 02:45:16 AM
My soursops were unprotected all throughout this winter.

They survived the winter. The lowest temperature we had in the valley was 29 f for 3 hours....




How old are your soursops?

Not sure. probably 2 years old?

I will take a pic tomorrow.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: GP on June 01, 2017, 03:55:34 AM
I gotta find this Greenmart place. I am isolated on the surface of the sun aka the Coachella Valley. It sucks because they never have anything even remotely interesting here at the local nurseries. I have committed much time, and gas to traveling all over southern California in search of what is classed as exotics here. I have accrued a nice collection this past year. Traveled around, and had some shipped in with painful shipping charges. I am classed here as a 9b, but it seems exceedingly rare for my area to drop below 30. That said I am out in no man's land with some of the trees I am trying to grow. nobody around me has any experience with these plants. Odd man out for sure.

Hi Hana,
Got to tip my hat for your determination in growing fruit trees in such an arid condition like Coachela Valley. But, please don't be despair, there's "Mangofang", one of our Hero member who also live in your  valley (Palm Springs) that seems to have success in growing mangos and many other tropicals.

And also, you and many others can find encouragements by watching this man's video in Youtube: "VeganAthete", who has successfully growing edible gardens and fruit trees in his desert home in Phoenix, Arizona...! Here's one of his many postings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bcRUESwD08 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bcRUESwD08)

Ok, back to the topic: Soursop.
The reason I worry about growing it, is that I had one, about 6 ft tall that died 2 Winters ago. And as I recalled, that year's Winter was very "mild"...so I decided not to give it any protection. I guess I was wrong!  :(
But I am willing to try it again, this time I'll try to be more careful...  :)


I've seen a few of his videos. One thing I've noticed is he kind of creates his own microclimate with his pond adding humidity, larger native trees to shade and protect the younger ones from the extreme heat and wind, and mulch. He makes sure his plants are well nourished through both a good living soul and foliar feeding, and he also adds winter protection to a few of his trees like his papayas and I think his ice cream bean trees from the few videos I've seen.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Guanabanus on June 01, 2017, 10:46:26 PM
Soursops are sensitive to cold WINDS--- wind at about 43-degrees Fahrenheit will kill all the leaves.  The soursop will immediately leaf out again.  Next cold wind--- repeat.  Four or five episodes exhausts the trees buds and carb reserves.  DEAD, without ever getting down into frost territory.

Protected from Wind, soursop can take 2 or more degrees below freezing.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Guanabanus on June 01, 2017, 10:47:52 PM
Soursops can withstand year-long flooding, at least in warm water.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: gozp on June 02, 2017, 12:07:28 AM

(https://s17.postimg.cc/pynft5zhn/20170601_184949.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/pynft5zhn/)


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My soursops didnt totally defloiate during the winter. These werr unprotected exposed to cold winds, wet soil & reached a temperature of 29 farenheit... next winter this will be hardier...


However, One of my soursop from florida died,tree wasnt established enough to handle the extremes.....
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Samu on June 02, 2017, 12:27:56 AM
Soursops are sensitive to cold WINDS--- wind at about 43-degrees Fahrenheit will kill all the leaves.  The soursop will immediately leaf out again.  Next cold wind--- repeat.  Four or five episodes exhausts the trees buds and carb reserves.  DEAD, without ever getting down into frost territory.

Protected from Wind, soursop can take 2 or more degrees below freezing.

Thanks Har, for giving us a valuable advice!
My next tree, I will give adequate protection against Winter's cold and wind for sure...
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: GP on June 02, 2017, 03:23:36 AM
That makes so much sense! My soursop has been through a few days of hot Santa Ana winds totally unscathed. Even the tender new growth was fine. It was even fine back in March with the coldest night time temps in the upper 40's. No cold wind though.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Samu on February 17, 2018, 05:34:49 PM
Well, does anyone has any success in fruiting their Soursop, yet?
If so, how hard it is to keep it to stay alive through the Winter?

A photo or two would be very helpful to encourage me (and others?) to try to grow this in Southern California..., thanks!

Sam

It's challenging. If you can find one that flowers in April you will fruit it easy. I'm getting closer with cuban fiberless

Now, it's almost a year later, still wondering if anyone in SoCal is able to fruit their Soursop, yet?? An update of your trees survival experience during this Winter would also be a valuable info to all of us in SoCal if you would like to share it. Thanks!
Meanwhile, I - and others also -  am experimenting with grafting Cuban fiberless onto a cherimoya just a week ago, we'll see what happen...
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: JF on February 17, 2018, 05:39:26 PM
Iíll have 6-8 Cuba fiberless fruits I. August
(https://s14.postimg.cc/juj549onx/32293961-094_A-4_CA5-_AA71-99_F236_A62_FFF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/juj549onx/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/vjn4s8ncd/56_CDB956-_A34_B-4_DE0-_AEB4-550679_EF36_CA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vjn4s8ncd/)
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Pasca on February 17, 2018, 06:57:20 PM
JF,

Please keep us posted with your Cuban soursop fruit progress, the good, the bad and especially the ugly.  I don't have a tree but I have heard so much about how difficult it is to grow soursop here in Southern California.  I would like to know one way or the other.  Granted that this winter is unseasonably warm and dry. 

Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Samu on February 17, 2018, 08:27:35 PM
Iíll have 6-8 Cuba fiberless fruits I. August
(https://s14.postimg.cc/juj549onx/32293961-094_A-4_CA5-_AA71-99_F236_A62_FFF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/juj549onx/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/vjn4s8ncd/56_CDB956-_A34_B-4_DE0-_AEB4-550679_EF36_CA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vjn4s8ncd/)

Wow, Frank! Congratulations, this is great news! You are probably the 2nd grower from SoCal that can do this; the other one is marklee  from San Diego I think...This give me hope...WOOHOO!
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Samu on February 18, 2018, 02:17:37 PM

Sam

It's challenging. If you can find one that flowers in April you will fruit it easy. I'm getting closer with cuban fiberless

Frank,
so when was your Cuban fiberless above flowering at your location, in around April time frame?
If it is so, that  would be the choice variety for us, SoCal growers then, right?
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: PrincessTigerLily on April 11, 2018, 02:37:23 PM
We have soursop in north San Diego county!  I was surprised to find it on my tree last week. Especially with with the cold weather in February and March.   It's getting greenEr and bigger by the day. There was only three flowers on the tree in January so I didn't care to try to pollinate it. This tree has been in ground for four years without protection. The last two years had about 6-12 bloom. I tried hand pollination but it didn't take.  Crossing my fingers, hoping it won't fall off!  ;D
 
(https://s7.postimg.cc/ohv5zo96f/IMG_0507.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ohv5zo96f/)
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Guanabanus on April 12, 2018, 05:47:33 AM
Hand-pollinate near the end of evening civil twilight.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: shot on April 12, 2018, 09:01:50 AM
Pretty cool
PrincessTigerLily

Har what time of day best for pollination of soncoya?
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Guanabanus on April 12, 2018, 07:03:42 PM
I got hand-pollinations to work on Soncoya only half-a-dozen times, always in the middle of the night.  But on other occasions, at similar hours, nothing, so I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Vernmented on April 12, 2018, 08:48:29 PM
Soursops are sensitive to cold WINDS--- wind at about 43-degrees Fahrenheit will kill all the leaves.  The soursop will immediately leaf out again.  Next cold wind--- repeat.  Four or five episodes exhausts the trees buds and carb reserves.  DEAD, without ever getting down into frost territory.

Protected from Wind, soursop can take 2 or more degrees below freezing.

This is very interesting Har. I have reticulata grafted onto muricata only because I was out of rootstock at the time. I wonder if I can stop babying it in the winter since the there aren't any muricata leaves on the plant. The plant is in a pot and I bring it inside. I wonder what temperature the roots go dormant at. The tree is very vigorous and has a nice clean graft union at 2+ years. I have been under the impression that soursop would be a great rootstock for other species in the tropics but maybe it would be worthwhile testing it in a 9b/10a zone.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: behlgarden on September 18, 2018, 01:27:46 PM
following up on this topic again.

any luck for anyone actually fruiting it? lots are growing and flowering but most cant get it to fruit to maturity.

Frank?
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Bananaizme on September 18, 2018, 05:38:48 PM
 Hi Behl

I know of a couple examples of soursop fruiting in So Cal . Both examples are of members of the FB group Vietnamese exotic fruit growers . One tree belongs to a member who lives in Garden Grove and the other member is listed as Los Angeles. I havenít seen the trees in person myself, but know many members of the group who have and have seen pictures of the large fruit hanging in the tree.

William
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: JF on September 18, 2018, 05:59:20 PM
Hi Behl

I know of a couple examples of soursop fruiting in So Cal . Both examples are of members of the FB group Vietnamese exotic fruit growers . One tree belongs to a member who lives in Garden Grove and the other member is listed as Los Angeles. I havenít seen the trees in person myself, but know many members of the group who have and have seen pictures of the large fruit hanging in the tree.

William

Hi William
My Cuban seedless itís massive it came close to holding a few fruits but they drop in spring. Itís blooming it should work this year
(https://i.postimg.cc/t15wCGg5/336722_C8-_C508-422_A-9405-14_CC18_E8_E2_C1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t15wCGg5)
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: behlgarden on September 18, 2018, 06:53:09 PM
it will be interesting to see how fruits hold to maturity.
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Bananaizme on September 18, 2018, 10:36:23 PM
Frank thatís a amazing looking tree you have there, Iím sure it will hold fruit before long as the tree ages .

 William
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Bananaizme on September 19, 2018, 07:12:37 AM
  Frank

 How old is your cuban fiberless ? It is a beautiful tree.

 William
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Samu on November 18, 2018, 03:01:44 PM
Just wondering if anyone in California is able to have their Soursop tree bearing fruit to maturity on the tree, yet?

A photo or two would be encouraging sight to see!
I got a couple of tiny Cuban fiberless seedlings I am nursing, hoping that the time spent won't be in vain...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Nyr40ZP3/IMG-2049.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Nyr40ZP3)
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: Samu on July 07, 2019, 07:48:53 PM
Just wanted to update this old thread; while googling around, I found someone who stated living in Orange County zone 10a-10b (SoCal) was able to grow and fruited to maturity of Soursop tree she grew from seed.

She (user name "Diana ---") also included some photos of the fruit(s) while it was still hanging and when she cut it open, her first entry was dated June 30 2017, in case you want to jump to it.  Here's the website where I found it:

https://www.houzz.com/discussions/2186787/do-you-have-a-soursop-that-is-producing-fruit-for-you (https://www.houzz.com/discussions/2186787/do-you-have-a-soursop-that-is-producing-fruit-for-you)

So, there is one proof that I can find, hope this will give encouragement to others and myself. So, I intend to plant the 2 seedlings that I have into the ground...soon!
Title: Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
Post by: miracle on August 13, 2019, 09:19:38 AM
Thanks, Samu
It is very interesting