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Title: Blood clementine, Australian bloodlime...
Post by: Laaz on December 15, 2016, 10:58:35 AM
I have a bunch of fresh seed available right now $5 for 5 seed includes shipping in the US.

Blood clementine
Australian bloodlime
Variegated sour orange (The only variegated citrus I know of that produces variegated bud sports with the seedlings)
Fast flowering trifoliata (Flowers at 1 year old.)
Citrumello (10 seeds for $5)

3 nice seedling Faustrime plants $30 each (These are 8 months old. They start to fruit at 2 years)
Title: Re: Blood clementine, Australian bloodlime...
Post by: Laaz on December 15, 2016, 08:04:09 PM
Almost forgot, anyone that orders seeds... I will throw in some Chamaedorea microspadix seeds. They make great house plants or are hardy to the high teens F if you are in a warm zone.

(http://www.bacchuspalms.co.nz/communities/7/004/012/662/317//images/4614021520.jpg)
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Post by: cory on December 15, 2016, 11:47:03 PM
Beautiful tree!  Your yard must be so beautiful.

Cory
Title: Re: Blood clementine, Australian bloodlime...
Post by: Laaz on December 16, 2016, 08:54:28 AM
Add Panzarella giant orange to the list.
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Post by: LaCasaVerde on December 17, 2016, 06:00:14 AM
Laaz

When do the Blood Clemintines ripen? Also are these the same as Mandared Mandarins, Red Nules?
Title: Re: Blood clementine, Australian bloodlime...
Post by: Laaz on December 17, 2016, 06:30:52 AM
They are pretty much ripe now. No they are not the same as mandared. The seeds were sent to me as Rubino Clementine.
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Post by: Laaz on December 18, 2016, 03:53:25 PM
Some of the variegated sour oranges I harvested today.

(http://i67.tinypic.com/208d5xc.jpg)
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Post by: Galka on December 18, 2016, 09:31:23 PM
Thanks for the picture Laaz.  :) They look like cute little pumpkins.  :D
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Post by: Laaz on December 28, 2016, 01:23:35 PM
Had a few people ask about the fast flowering trifoliata. It is a dwarf, my mother plant is 10 years old and only about 7 ft tall. I'll get a photo up later today. I do have one year old seedlings that are dormant now. They are about a foot tall. I can not ship live plants to FL, TX, LA, AZ or CA...
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Post by: Laaz on December 28, 2016, 03:38:57 PM
This is the "Fast" trifoliata tree, 10+ years old & barely as tall as the 6' fence. (Swingle hanging over the fence)

(http://oi64.tinypic.com/25gb804.jpg)
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Post by: Laaz on December 28, 2016, 03:40:28 PM
And my remaining blood clementine crop.

(http://oi64.tinypic.com/2qmfeyu.jpg)
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Post by: JJROSS54 on December 28, 2016, 07:51:05 PM
WOW
Beautiful color on the fruit.
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Post by: Garcinia on January 11, 2017, 06:39:17 PM
Do you still have any fast growing seeds?
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Post by: fyliu on January 12, 2017, 02:30:08 AM
Any blood citrus seeds left?
I'm also looking for flying dragon. I want to grow it just for the branches. Otherwise I'll have to order from CCPP and get seeds from the fruits or root the sticks.
Title: Re: Blood clementine, Australian bloodlime...
Post by: Laaz on January 12, 2017, 08:03:27 AM
Yes, I have both blood clementine & bloodlime seed. Let me check this morning & see if I have any flying dragon left out on the tree.
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Post by: Garcinia on January 12, 2017, 10:19:02 AM
Do you know how frequently the blood clementine or lime comes true from seed?
Title: Re: Blood clementine, Australian bloodlime...
Post by: Laaz on January 12, 2017, 10:46:35 AM
That I can't answer, but mine did. Most all citrus "hybrids" come true, there are only a few citrus that don't come true.
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Post by: Garcinia on January 12, 2017, 12:57:05 PM
I'd probably like to get some seeds. Is the fast growing citrus still available?
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Post by: fyliu on January 12, 2017, 01:05:41 PM
I'll PM you.
Title: Re: Blood clementine, Australian bloodlime...
Post by: Laaz on January 12, 2017, 02:22:33 PM
Still have some fast trifoliata seeds, bot no flying dragon.
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Post by: Garcinia on January 12, 2017, 05:08:51 PM
Still have some fast trifoliata seeds, bot no flying dragon.

Okay. I'd like to purchase some of your blood citrus and trifoliata. I'll PM you in a bit.
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Post by: Maggyemma on January 24, 2017, 11:03:38 PM
Hi , I am a Canadian growing citrus in a greenhouse for past 6 yrs. I would like to buy blood clementine,Austrian Bloodlime and variegated sour orange seeds if you still have some. Just found out about you  from Cory on the Houzz citrus forum. Glad to find this site and am sure I will learn a lot here.
Thank you. Marg
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Post by: Millet on January 24, 2017, 11:24:11 PM
Laaz, the blood clementine seeds I got from you started germinating today.  Also the Carolina Raper pepper seeds  germinated 3 or  days ago. - Thanks
Title: Re: Blood clementine, Australian bloodlime...
Post by: Laaz on January 25, 2017, 11:16:59 AM
Good luck with them Bob. Once spring rolls in, I'm going to start grafting a bunch of stuff up... Variegated hamlin, blood, valencia & cara cara as well as the blood clem & some others.
Title: Re: Blood clementine, Australian bloodlime...
Post by: Millet on January 27, 2017, 11:13:27 AM
Not sure what I will get from the Red Clementine seeds that I planted.  Clementine does not come true from seed, but blood oranges do.  Now that the seeds are sprouting some are producing just one plant, but two of the seeds look to be nucelar with two trees coming from one seed.  The double should be true to type.  Since one varietal parent of the Red Clementine produces true and one doesn't  the zygote forum probably is dominant.   It will be interesting to see what eventually is produced.  Actually, I'm more interested in the zygote seeds as they produce a never  before seen fruit.  Many times zygote fruit are inferior, but once in a while they are the parent of a fantastic new variety.   In any case, all should have a red coloration whether they are true or not.
Title: Re: Blood clementine, Australian bloodlime...
Post by: Laaz on January 27, 2017, 11:49:18 AM
They are hybrids & most hybrids come true from seed.
Title: Re: Blood clementine, Australian bloodlime...
Post by: Laaz on January 27, 2017, 11:50:23 AM
Bloodlimes are gone until next year.
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Post by: Millet on February 07, 2017, 10:53:05 PM
I transplanted the Blood Clementines seedlings that germinated from seed I received from Laaz.  They were taken from the germinating tray yesterday and transplanted into 2 inch square air root pruning containers manufactured by Root Maker Corporation.  I agree with Laaz that the Blood Clementine produces true from seed. Some of the seed produced a single plant,  some produced two seedlings from one seed, and one seed produced 4 seedlings. These would be nucellar seedlings originating from the nucleolus, therefore they will be identical to the mother tree.   All the above seeds germinated from seed that I peeled off the outer seed coat (testa).   I also planted some Blood Clementine seeds that I did not remove the outer hard seed coat, these took 8 days longer to begin germinating.
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Post by: Galka on February 20, 2017, 01:40:53 AM
Millet, could you post a picture, please? My seeds germinated too and I wonder when I should repot them.
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Post by: Millet on February 20, 2017, 12:16:01 PM
When I asked Laaz for some Blood Clementine seeds, he sent me a fruit.  From the one fruit that I received, I eventually got 35 trees from the fruit's seeds because of polyembryony.
Title: Re: Blood clementine, Australian bloodlime...
Post by: Vlad on February 20, 2017, 10:50:15 PM
Millet, are the single plants identical to the mother tree?
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Post by: cory on February 21, 2017, 12:50:29 AM
I bought seeds from Laaz too.  I did not remove the outer seed covering before planting them in soil.  It was interesting to me that the variegated sour oranges germinated first, then the blood clementines, and now the blood limes are coming up.  None of the fast trifoliate have germinated yet. I planted some Moros about the same time and they are germinating now too.     Only 2 seeds so far came up as doubles.  The variegated sour orange so far have no clorophyll at all.  I hope they survive.  It is fun to watch them.
Cory
Title: Re: Blood clementine, Australian bloodlime...
Post by: Millet on February 21, 2017, 12:53:04 PM
Vald, to answer your question, I don't know if the single plants will be the same as the mother.  You just have to let them grow out with the polyembryony seedlings and watch for any growth changes.  It is known that clementines do not produce true from seed, and it is one half of the Red Clementine's parenthood.
Title: Re: Blood clementine, Australian bloodlime...
Post by: Galka on February 21, 2017, 01:00:12 PM
All of my trifoliates from Laaz sprouted first. The variegated are sprouting too and the first one is showing the first pair of real leaves and they have variegation on them. They look strong and growing up nicely. I am sure they will survive.
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Post by: Millet on February 21, 2017, 06:04:42 PM
Vlad one more point.  The Red Clementine seeds that sprouted just one tree could also be true to type.  Seeds from many citrus varieties produce just one seedling that are true to the mother tree.
Title: Re: Blood clementine, Australian bloodlime...
Post by: Laaz on February 22, 2017, 07:50:17 AM
The variegated sour orange is a strange plant. Most of the seeds I have planted come up green & then produce variegated bud sports up & down the tree. The mother tree is about 20 ft tall & mixed with green & variegated branches. The weird thing is, even the green branches produce variegated fruit...
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Post by: cory on February 22, 2017, 07:00:24 PM
That will be interesting to see Laaz.  Of the 5 seedlings that have sprouted only one so far is slightly green; the others are just creamy white, even the first true leaves are creamy white .  I have read about plants with green leaves producing variegated fruit.  It must be a surprise to see the variegated fruit on a green tree or branch.
Cory
Title: Re: Blood clementine, Australian bloodlime...
Post by: Laaz on February 23, 2017, 02:44:39 PM
I try and remember to get a photo when my neighbor is home. I gave the tree to him as a seedling... Don't have room in my yard for a fruit I would never use... ;D
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Post by: Galka on March 03, 2017, 11:27:22 AM
I try and remember to get a photo when my neighbor is home. I gave the tree to him as a seedling... Don't have room in my yard for a fruit I would never use... ;D

Laaz, did you have a chance to take a photo?
Here is a pic of the variegated seedlings. The one in front has three coming up from one seed.
(http://i.imgur.com/SdgolPZ.jpg?1)
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Post by: Laaz on March 04, 2017, 12:37:48 PM
I'll try to get a photo tomorrow.
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Post by: cory on March 04, 2017, 07:04:58 PM
My Variegated Sour Orangel seedings are beginning to show a little green now too.

(https://s30.postimg.cc/pkm7ylfx9/Variegated_Sour_Orange_20170304_185623.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/pkm7ylfx9/)

Cory
Title: Re: Blood clementine, Australian bloodlime...
Post by: cory on March 04, 2017, 07:39:48 PM
Blood Clementine Seedlings:

(https://s16.postimg.cc/6amk1cn75/Blood_Clementine_20170304_192936.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6amk1cn75/)

Blood Limes:

(https://s18.postimg.cc/ax1s8ywdh/Blood_Lime_20170304_193053.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ax1s8ywdh/)

Only one Fast Trifoliate so far:

(https://s16.postimg.cc/jec375xy9/Fast_Trifoliate_20170304_193156.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jec375xy9/)

Cory
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Post by: Millet on March 04, 2017, 10:34:13 PM
Cory, your getting quite a few extra Blood Clementine nucellar seedlings.  I have one Blood Clementine seed produce 4 seedlings.  Your looking good. 
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Post by: Galka on March 05, 2017, 12:49:02 AM
Cory, your getting quite a few extra Blood Clementine nucellar seedlings.  I have one Blood Clementine seed produce 4 seedlings.  Your looking good.
Millet, are you going to separate them later?
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Post by: Laaz on March 05, 2017, 07:09:21 AM
Great job germinating the seeds!
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Post by: Millet on March 05, 2017, 11:15:43 AM
Galka, I've already separated them.  I separated them and transplanted them into there own pots early on, when the first true leaf started.  They separate quite easy.  I had two transplanted trees grow yet another late nucellar seedling a week or so after I originally separated and repotted them. All in all got 35 seedling trees from one Red Clementine fruit. I dunked the germinating container into a water bath and the medium washed away leaving the seedlings with clean roots, then I separated them, and replanted them in there own containers.  You will find it quite easy.
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Post by: Laaz on March 05, 2017, 11:49:16 AM
Here's some photo's of the mother variegated sour orange. Both green & variegated flushes. Very cool tree.

(http://oi63.tinypic.com/2v2h5lg.jpg)

(http://oi67.tinypic.com/2m6r9qh.jpg)

(http://oi67.tinypic.com/34oodif.jpg)

(http://oi64.tinypic.com/2ec2mth.jpg)

(http://oi68.tinypic.com/20hkppj.jpg)
Title: Re: Blood clementine, Australian bloodlime...
Post by: Laaz on March 05, 2017, 11:56:13 AM
Birds have been pecking them...  :)

(http://oi66.tinypic.com/33nj85e.jpg)
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Post by: Galka on March 05, 2017, 12:14:25 PM
Laaz, that's impressive tree! The oranges are so colorful. I am hunting another Minneola that has different variegation on its leaves. They are darker, green and yellow and new leaves are much brighter than old ones.
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Post by: cory on March 05, 2017, 03:13:44 PM
Very nice Laaz.  Thanks for posting.

Millet, I looked to see if I could divide my mutiples, but they are still within the seed and are actually still fused together and don't have enough roots to Iive on their own.  I had expected each to have its own root, but not yet.  I don't remember seeing the two seedlings fused together like that before, but maybe that is because I waited longer to try to separate them.
Cory
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Post by: Millet on March 05, 2017, 04:27:25 PM
Cory, none of my Red Clementines were fused together.   Over the years I don't recall ever seeing fused nucellar seedlings. 
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Post by: cory on March 06, 2017, 09:48:24 PM
Millet, those Blood Clementine Seedlings are interesting.  Many more of them are still sending up additional multiple seedlings.  Several of mine now have as many as 5 coming from the one seed even though the first seeding came up several days ago.   I went back today to see if I could now separate the ones that seemed to be fused together.  Today they had developed their own roots and I cut through the small spot where they were fused together.   They were easily divided after that and I think they will be fine on their own.  I am surprised I never have seen any fused together like that before and found several like that in this batch.  I wish I had taken a picture, but I forgot.  There are still more mutiples coming up, so maybe some of those will be fused too and I can get a picture.  It is also interesting to me that this one with the large leaf is one of them that was fused.  It has such a different shaped leaf than all the others, even it's twin.
 
(https://s12.postimg.cc/cr79yfo6h/20170306_213653.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/cr79yfo6h/)


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Post by: Millet on March 06, 2017, 10:04:05 PM
Cory, that is a fascinating leaf structure.  Chances are as the seedling produces more foliage the new leaves will grow out normal.  But you never know.  I had one Red Clementine that developed two nucellar seedlings, then nothing more.  So I transplanted them, then  about a week after they were in their own pots, another nucellar seedling broke through the soil surface and began to grow. 
Title: Re: Blood clementine, Australian bloodlime...
Post by: Brandt on March 13, 2017, 11:29:47 PM
Do you have to graft the blood clementine trees once they start to grow?

I'm interested in some of these seeds.
Title: Re: Blood clementine, Australian bloodlime...
Post by: Millet on April 08, 2017, 04:31:25 PM
I planted the Red (Blood) Clementine seeds that I got from Lazz last January. Some of the seeds produced just one seedling, and some of the seed produced multiple (nucellar) seedlings. Last week I was stunned to see three of the now 3" tall seedlings have now sent up another nucellar seedling tree, after almost 80 days since all germination was "finished".
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Post by: Susanne42 on July 11, 2017, 09:58:49 AM
Totally late but would love to try the blood clementine or blood lemon. Will there be more offering? Maybe even cuttings?
How long will it take to see fruits?
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Post by: Millet on July 11, 2017, 03:01:07 PM
Blood Clementine from seed to fruiting 3 to 5 years. 
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Post by: Susanne42 on July 11, 2017, 03:48:36 PM
awesome. and the blood lime?
Just adding that they always will be in a container. Winter in the house. Hopefully a nice greenhouse in three or four years.
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Post by: chicomoralessxm on December 21, 2017, 07:22:13 AM
not sure butdoes anyone still have seeds?