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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: Mikey on September 11, 2017, 12:26:25 AM

Title: Ilama varieties
Post by: Mikey on September 11, 2017, 12:26:25 AM
How many ilama varieties are there?  I only know of the red and white. 
Title: Re: Ilama varieties
Post by: BrianL on September 11, 2017, 12:32:27 AM
There's more then that.  Fruit color is a trait of varieties, not the varieties themselves.
Title: Re: Ilama varieties
Post by: Bob407 on September 11, 2017, 07:00:28 PM
https://lookaside.fbsbx.com/file/Diversidad%20en%20las%20Ilamas%20-%20Mexico.pdf?token=AWyjU9GAElpbzDVzyaeT-o-gaDWUUa2rhULQG54AW4u5RyP8IEOjpo5bVeQF30ZUm5rLLc__oMMnG5A8M_Cv4ugu2D0lbhDOztlb39flq1aVkFn7e3r7HaASE_Rnd0P6ZKCcr4jN8J5pWZHjBvK1imgf8_bZrXV2IAg1o_JurwImT9jVHMwse2QJ2HsYp6ovb8AnpX86md8fSAjt4TISpMl_
Title: Re: Ilama varieties
Post by: Raulglezruiz on September 11, 2017, 07:11:15 PM
I'm planning a trip to this university to collect material scions and seeds of the beso types out there they have been collecting the best types as for flavor, productivity, size, pulp seeds and skin ratio, Andre less prone to crack, there will be seeds available for anyone interested, I will update with further information....
Title: Re: Ilama varieties
Post by: luc on September 11, 2017, 08:04:21 PM
I'm planning a trip to this university to collect material scions and seeds of the beso types out there they have been collecting the best types as for flavor, productivity, size, pulp seeds and skin ratio, Andre less prone to crack, there will be seeds available for anyone interested, I will update with further information....

Good luck Raul , as you know the purple pulp one is still on my bucket list , I've been trying for close to one year now to contact these people . First they don't answer ( classical ) , 6 months later they say they will transfer my request to the right people in their organization .....still waiting . Some friends from that area " Tierra Caliente " advised me not to go over there if I cherish my life , controlled by the Cartels . There is a guy ( old timer - even older than me ...lol....) who has a collection of more than 30 varieties in his potrero . I managed to narrow it down to a little town somewhere 50 km higher up in the sierra . I think we will need to hire Team 6 or similar , not sure if the Expendables are still in business ...find out will you ...if we ever wanna ad all those to our collection .
Anyway ....I miss those short expeditions we use to take , I still would like to take the risk , at my age I'd rather die from a bullet than from high blood pressure .
Title: Re: Ilama varieties
Post by: sytanta on September 11, 2017, 08:23:47 PM
I'm planning a trip to this university to collect material scions and seeds of the beso types out there they have been collecting the best types as for flavor, productivity, size, pulp seeds and skin ratio, Andre less prone to crack, there will be seeds available for anyone interested, I will update with further information....

I'm in but according to Luc this seems dangerous.
Title: Re: Ilama varieties
Post by: Mikey on September 11, 2017, 08:55:56 PM
I'm interested if u can get me the seeds.
Title: Re: Ilama varieties
Post by: Chandramohan on September 11, 2017, 10:33:36 PM
Raul, Put me in line for the seeds.
Title: Re: Ilama varieties
Post by: knlim000 on September 11, 2017, 10:56:15 PM
me interested in seeds too.
Title: Re: Ilama varieties
Post by: JF on September 12, 2017, 12:14:47 AM

Genova Red

(https://s26.postimg.cc/3s07iu5k5/IMG_7180_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3s07iu5k5/)
Title: Re: Ilama varieties
Post by: Mikey on September 12, 2017, 03:42:54 AM

Genova Red

(https://s26.postimg.cc/3s07iu5k5/IMG_7180_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3s07iu5k5/)


Jf,
It is beautiful.  I envy your annonas collection.  I have the red ilama but I don't have any other type of ilama.  All of your ilama grafts failed maybe it was too hot and I didn't have enough shades.  I'm looking forward to more of your scions in the spring. 

If you have other types please tell us in details.
Title: Re: Ilama varieties
Post by: Mugenia on September 12, 2017, 04:45:08 AM
Raul,

Sign me up for some seeds too. Thanks!

Title: Re: Ilama varieties
Post by: palologrower on September 12, 2017, 05:57:05 AM
I'm planning a trip to this university to collect material scions and seeds of the beso types out there they have been collecting the best types as for flavor, productivity, size, pulp seeds and skin ratio, Andre less prone to crack, there will be seeds available for anyone interested, I will update with further information....


Anyway ....I miss those short expeditions we use to take , I still would like to take the risk , at my age I'd rather die from a bullet than from high blood pressure .


i totally agree with you luc.  either one last hurrah in borneo or dead after shooting a once in a life time ahi.  ;)
Title: Re: Ilama varieties
Post by: Bob407 on September 12, 2017, 10:13:47 AM

(https://s26.postimg.cc/6kkr6jcbp/IMG_2496.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6kkr6jcbp/)
Title: Re: Ilama varieties
Post by: Bob407 on September 12, 2017, 11:18:28 AM
Genova Red on my tree

(https://s26.postimg.cc/lhl06cl5x/IMG_2984.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lhl06cl5x/)
Title: Re: Ilama varieties
Post by: JF on September 12, 2017, 11:23:27 AM
(https://s26.postimg.cc/eipht9ff9/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/eipht9ff9/)

(https://s26.postimg.cc/g0fjik9jp/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/g0fjik9jp/)

(https://s26.postimg.cc/da67ldcut/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/da67ldcut/)
Title: Re: Ilama varieties
Post by: Mikey on September 12, 2017, 12:55:04 PM
Jf,

You always have the good stuff.
(https://s26.postimg.cc/eipht9ff9/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/eipht9ff9/)

(https://s26.postimg.cc/g0fjik9jp/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/g0fjik9jp/)

(https://s26.postimg.cc/da67ldcut/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/da67ldcut/)

Title: Re: Ilama varieties
Post by: luc on September 12, 2017, 06:51:37 PM
Ilama white .
(https://s26.postimg.cc/bgotynl85/Annona_diversifolia_-_Ilama_white.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/bgotynl85/)
Title: Re: Ilama varieties
Post by: marklee on September 12, 2017, 07:45:43 PM
This is the flower and the fruit, any ideas on variety?
(https://s26.postimg.cc/rdtylza39/IMG_1365.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/rdtylza39/)

(https://s26.postimg.cc/65ga4jvmd/illama.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/65ga4jvmd/)
Title: Re: Ilama varieties
Post by: Mikey on September 12, 2017, 11:34:47 PM
This is the flower and the fruit, any ideas on variety?
(https://s26.postimg.cc/rdtylza39/IMG_1365.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/rdtylza39/)

(https://s26.postimg.cc/65ga4jvmd/illama.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/65ga4jvmd/)


Marklee,

Please update us on the color and taste of your ilama.  If it is different from what I have I would love some scion wood.  It is a very pretty plant and flower.

Title: Re: Ilama varieties
Post by: Mugenia on September 13, 2017, 11:43:10 AM
Would ilama survive the cold nights in Inland Empire area? I was able to experience the winter in Riverside earlier in the year. There was couple of nights that the temps dipped into the mid 30s. I didn't see any dead trees or plant from anyone, but I am not too sure.
Title: Re: Ilama varieties
Post by: buddyguygreen on September 13, 2017, 11:28:27 PM
Ilama white .
(https://s26.postimg.cc/bgotynl85/Annona_diversifolia_-_Ilama_white.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/bgotynl85/)

That white ilama has more of an elongated look compared to mine, I guess that's 2 different varieties of white.
(https://s26.postimg.cc/f0bsr0n9x/IMG_1004.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/f0bsr0n9x/)