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Title: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: CA Hockey on September 13, 2017, 10:58:58 PM
After 7 years of collecting trees and growing them in pots and boxes, it's time to put these plants in the ground. I am working with a landscape architect for the design but wanted to solicit advice from the group at large. I have to work in roughly 170 trees/plants. Some will probably have to be axed. East is towards the top of the plan. I don't like where the cherimoyas are positioned and want to move them between the curved firepit and the sports court. Thanks in advance for your collective wisdom and advice :-)

Avocado - 21
Citrus - 34
Stone Fruit - 15
Apples/Pears - 3
Mango - 22
Mulberry - 3
Blueberry - 5
Cherimoya – 4
Persimmon – 5
Sapote – 5
Guava – 2
Fig – 8
Miracle Fruit – 2
Cinnamon – 1
Elder Berry – 1
Olive – 3
Dragon Fruit – 3-5
Grapes – 7
Pomegranate - 5

Would like some trellises for grapes and other vine plants (ie, passionfruit)
Would like a simple structure for the dragon fruit

Cinnamon and miracle fruit need shade with indirect light

-K


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Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: boxturtle on September 14, 2017, 02:10:58 AM
size of lot and tree spacing also include variety name so people can give you insight on growth habits would help people chime in
Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: CA Hockey on September 14, 2017, 03:16:41 AM
That would be a good idea!

the lot size is 1 acre. I will have to update the post with the different cultivars as I'm running off fumes now.
Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: Mugenia on September 14, 2017, 04:44:25 AM
Nice! One acre is pretty big for Southern California. I have a big lot too. I am not sure, but my brother who is a California-resident expert told me not to plant mangoes and avocadoes near walls, structures, or cement areas.
Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: FrankDrebinOfFruits on September 14, 2017, 10:46:54 AM
Are you doing anything to prevent the leaves from blowing into the pool?
Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: boxturtle on September 14, 2017, 11:04:45 AM
where is it going to be? any adjacent lot available so I can be your neighbor :)
Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: spaugh on September 14, 2017, 11:42:15 AM
Whats the water situation there?  Looks like its going to be a thirsty yard. 
Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: fyliu on September 14, 2017, 03:42:54 PM
The grapes could possibly be against the west wall of the house, or beside the figs in the east property line. Passionfruit could be there as well, but I personally don't like passionfruit against the house. They are evergreen, and I like to clean out the growth that's next to the house if anything's growing close to a wall. Grapes will go dormant so I can clean them out in the winter.
Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: CA Hockey on September 15, 2017, 03:22:00 AM
Thanks for your replies. I actually didn't think about the leaf situation and the pool.

I live in Orange, and there are plenty of large lots in this area. Apparently I was 5 years late on getting in on a massive house sitting on 2.5 flat acres, but our property suits us just fine :)

As for water, I pay less now (about 40$) with Irvine ranch water than I did when I lived in Yorba Linda a few years back with fewer trees, smaller trees, and a 300-400$ water bill. We have 9 people living in the house, so the water isn't just for plants. I have had at least one person recommend registering the land as a farm or some such to get a better water rate, but I haven't looked into that too much.

The main thing I don't like about the plan is that some of the trees are tucked against the western wall which is plenty shaded in the afternoon. My neighbors have tall 30+ foot tall trees lining their properties. I hope to keep my trees to about 15 feet, but most of my trees that are already on the western side are shaded in the afternoon. The current plan is to have avocados on that side but I think they will need for sun.

There is a courtyard in the frontyard == thinking of grapes/passionfruit there. By the pool, there are a couple of planters and I was thinking of olives but maybe the fruitless kind or maybe cherimoya (because they look pretty). For the stone fruit, I was thinking of  planting them as hedges or putting them really close to each other like dave wilson nursery lists on their website (2 feet apart I think). Right now, everything is plotted as being 10 feet away from each other.

Also not a fan of having fruit trees against or near the house because of critters.

As for the cultivar list (see below), I have listed what I have but am not committed to keeping all of them. I have started some multi-grafting just to preserve what I have and save space. Pending means I have grafted/budded, bought, ordered, have on hold, solicited, etc... that variety but am waiting for it to grow or arrive. For some cultivars, I have more than 1 (usually by accident, or I didn't think 1 would survive, or I got a deal, or on different rootstock). Depending on space, I may not keep multiples.

Thanks again


AVOCADO
Carmen Hass x2
Day   
Fuerte   
GEM   
Green gold
Hass x2   
Hellen   
Herd   
Holiday   
Jan boyce
Kahalu’u x2   
Lamb hass
Nabal   
Oro negro
Pinkerton x2
Queen   
Reed   
Sharwil x 2
Sir prize   
Sharwil or Jan boyce, lost tag
   
MANGO   
Ambrosia   
Coconut cream
Cotton Candy
Edgehill   
Edward-Angie-Carrie multi-grafted
Fruit Punch
Juicy Peach
Keitt   
Lemon Zest
M-4 (pending)
Madame Francis
Mallika   
Manila queen
Orange Essence
Orange Sherbet* (TT – Yes, I know all the history behind this. I bought it before I knew. I am willing to watch and wait )
Peach Cobbler
Phoenix   
Placid   
PPK   
Multi-grafted mango (pending)
Multi-grafted mango 2 (pending)
Multi-grafted mango 3 (pending)
Multi-grafted mango 4 (pending)
Multi-grafted mango 5 (pending)
   
SAPOTE   
Black – black  beauty
Black – reinecke
Green   
Mamey – pace
Sapodilla – Tikal
   
CHERIMOYA, etc
Cherimoya x atemoya cross
El bumpo (pending)
Fino de jete
Pierce (may not survive…)
   
GUAVA   
Bassateen el sabahia
Red strawberry
Variegated guava
   
PERSIMMON
Chocolate
Coffee cake
Fuyu   
Giant Fuyu
Saijo   
   
FIG   
Black madeira (pending)
Col de dame blanc (pending)
Col de dame noir (pending)
Green ischia
Ischia black (pending)
Kadota   
LSU purple
Panache   
Preto (pending)
Seedless Kadota
Violette de Bordeaux
   
CITRUS   
Mandarin

Algerian   
Daisy   
Daisy SL (pending)
Fairchild LS (pending)
Gold nugget
Lee x nova (5 of these)
Miho wase
Multi-grafted mandarin (Dange, Page, Kishu, Algerian, Dward Honey)
Multi-mandarin (budded July 2017 with take: clemenules, shiranui x 2, china s-9, okitsu wase), August 2017 pending take: sunburst and usda 6-15-150)
Pixie   
Ponkan   
Satsuma   
Shasta gold (pending)
Sudaichi   
Tahoe Gold
Tango   
Unknown mandarin (on property, great flavor)
Xie shan mandarin
Yosemite Gold

Kumquat

Meiwa kumquat
Nagami kumquat
Nordmann kumquat

Lime/Lime-like

Bearss lime x 2
Kaffir lime
Mexican thornless lime
Rangpur lime

Lemon/Lemon-like

Meyer lemon x 4
Multi-lemon (budded August 2017 pending take: limonero fino 49, seedless lemon, genoa lemon, limonero fino largo 95, femminello siracusano 2kr)
New Zealand lemonade
Ponderosa lemon
Santa Teresa lemon
Variegated pink lemon
Villafranca lemon

Orange

Cara Cara pink navel
Moro blood orange
Navel x2   
Robertson
Valencia blood orange
Valencia x3
Multi-grafted Valencia orange, bearss lime, pink lemon (one of my first trees, kept for sentimental reasons)

Other

Minneola x4
Rio red grape fruit
Oro blanco grape fruit
Australian finger lime
Yuzu   
Indio mandarinquat
Marrakesh limonetta
Dweet tangor
Ortanique tangor
   
STONE FRUIT
Multi: July elberta peach, fantasia nectarine, babcock white peach, Blenheim royal apricot, Santa rosa plum
Nectaplum – Spice zee x2
Cherry – 6gm25
Cherry – 6gm25
Cherry – Minnie royal
Cherry – Minnie royal
Cherry – royal lee
Pluerry – Candy heart
Pluerry – Sweet treat
Multi-peach: mid-pride, eva’s pride, Florida prince, Desert Gold, May pride
Donut peach x 3
Katy apricot x 2
Nectarine x 3 (unknown varieties)
Santa rosa plum
Multi-pluot: Flavor supreme, flavor queen, flavor king, dapple dandy
Multi-pluot: Geo pride, splash, flavor grenade, emerald drop
Multi- cherry plum: Delight and Sprite
Pluot – Dapple supreme
Pluot – flavor finale
Pluto – flavor grenade
   
APPLE/PEAR
20th century Asian pear
Hosui Asian pear
Multi-apple: Gordon, Anna, golden dorsett, fuji, Arkansa black spur (I think… 2 grafts took but I lost my label)
Anna   
Fuji x 2   
   
POMEGRANATE
Grenada   
Parfianka   
Red silk   
Wonderful
Yellow (not sure if this is the cultivar name, got wood at scion exchange)
   
MULBERRY
Black Pakistan
Dwarf everbearing mulberry
Pakistan fruiting (Cooke)
Teas weeping
   
BERRIES   
Bababerry raspberry
Blackberry triple crown
Boysenberry thornless
Fall gold raspberry
Goji berry
Olallieberry
   
BLUEBERRY
1 other type, lost the tag
Misty blueberries
Pink lemonade
Southmoon
   
DRAGON FRUIT
1 other type, lost tag, supposedly very good
Dark star   
Hailey’s comet
Unknown variety (Gift from friend)
Vietnamese white
Yellow   
   
OLIVE   
1 other type, lost the tag
Arbequina
Arbosana   
   
OTHER   
Cacao x 5   
Cinnamon
Elder berry
Miracle fruit x 2
Passion fruit
Peanut butter fruit
Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: Mugenia on September 15, 2017, 04:32:25 AM
CA Hockey,

That's one helluva tropical fruit paradise. My folks have about 5 acres in Riverside area. They have as much tropical fruit trees as you do and their water bills are like $300-400/month. That's only drip system. They also have a pool. Crazy California...

I only have about 25 trees and massive yards right now. When I get home, I will plant some more fruit trees in the lower half of the hill, the front yard and in between rows. Possibly remove some of grass in the backyard and plant a row of sapodilla or something. I need some shades to keep the house cool in the afternoon and keep my electric bills low. Like you, I am also creating a tropical fruit paradise. Good Luck!!

Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: CA Hockey on March 20, 2018, 12:15:17 AM
FYI, updating this post with the new design. I have a few more trees but I think this design is smoother and more appealing to the eye.


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The smaller circles are trees that should be planted within a few feet of each other (stone fruit, smaller mangoes, etc) -- things that will be planted at high density

The larger circles are for the specimens that may be shown off or showcased or allowed more space to grow.

:-)
Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: PltdWorld on March 20, 2018, 12:57:54 AM
What a great yard!

With that many avocado trees, it might be tempting to spread them throughout the yard.  Otherwise, I personally favor grouping similar fruits together (i.e. citrus is one section, annonas in another).  I am on a slope and I have my apricot and plumcots at the top of the hill - I get a great view half the year when they don't have leaves, but can't see anything when they fill in with leaves.

Personally, I like Mangos as specimen trees, avocados at the perimeter, grapes on trellises with the fruit hanging down, passion fruit on chainlink fence (i.e. set up a 4'-5' tall chain link fence to separate a portion of your yard - it's evergreen, attracts bees, and makes great fruit - but you can keep it tamed in this way) - and then sections for your figs, stone fruit, annonas, etc.

Share photos when the planting begins - you've got a fruit paradise on your hands!
Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: CA Hockey on March 20, 2018, 02:36:35 AM
Will do! that's the dream... right now it's a potted mess. We've been looking forward to this for a while now, saving up and planning. I keep messing up the plans by expanding the collection, but we're getting closer and closer.

I am also leaning towards grouping while having certain trees stand out more. I think annonas just look really pretty because of their leaf symmetry and may spread those out or put those near walkways. Im thinking of having the citrus closer to the front because they don't lose their leaves and have pretty fragrant flowers. The passionfruit chainlink fence is a great idea.

The specimen trees will be allowed to grow larger, so ideally they would produce exquisite fruit or they would be aesthetically pleasing. This is the hard part as only a small portion of my potted trees have been allowed to fruit regularly, while most have been held back by pots (avocados, mangos) or are immature with fruit that may taste different season to season as the tree matures -- so its hard for me to say which will have the best tasting fruit or not.

Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: Victoria Ave on March 20, 2018, 12:19:09 PM
Honestly I would go with much less plant materials. This is going to be one very dense planting and Irvine co works on a tiered system, that water bill is gonna go up. If you want dense tropical look I would go more towards having clusters of trees working together. Large trees with understory plantings and perhaps line gathering and circulation areas with smaller potted trees.

Then you can group and showcase your collection more than having a dense field.

I am a landscape architecture student and a tree enthusiast and this is just my opinion
Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: behlgarden on March 20, 2018, 04:53:32 PM
Will do! that's the dream... right now it's a potted mess. We've been looking forward to this for a while now, saving up and planning. I keep messing up the plans by expanding the collection, but we're getting closer and closer.

I am also leaning towards grouping while having certain trees stand out more. I think annonas just look really pretty because of their leaf symmetry and may spread those out or put those near walkways. Im thinking of having the citrus closer to the front because they don't lose their leaves and have pretty fragrant flowers. The passionfruit chainlink fence is a great idea.

The specimen trees will be allowed to grow larger, so ideally they would produce exquisite fruit or they would be aesthetically pleasing. This is the hard part as only a small portion of my potted trees have been allowed to fruit regularly, while most have been held back by pots (avocados, mangos) or are immature with fruit that may taste different season to season as the tree matures -- so its hard for me to say which will have the best tasting fruit or not.

Pretty slick plan overall. just keep in mind growth habbit of each variety within a variety. not all trees grow at same rate, you may have to mix match so you dont end up dwarfing smaller trees completely. Start a list with their growth pattern and heights, then lay them out.
Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: sahai1 on March 20, 2018, 08:32:19 PM
I've seen some big Mango tree farm fails, owners I guess were "greedy" planted too close, didn't thin any growth, main trunk easily passes the 12 foot mark until spreading.. those types of problems will cost time to fix.  leads to low yields, disease, and fruit flies.  By the time they started pruning, they were taking off huge 24" thick branches, and wasn't nearly enough to help.  They needed a shorter trunk. They should have planted 1 mango tree within a square design, instead they had rows of mango trees planted alongside each other.  Basically they had 4 large mango trees in each amount of space that could have fit 1 smaller mango tree.

Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: luak on March 20, 2018, 08:58:34 PM
Ca Hocky, the one thing i would do, learn as much how shape the different species. My saying is this, i can make small tree's big and big tree's small, there is such thing as " the art of pruning". My persimmon tree's are all, no ladder tree's.
Bob.
Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: Coach62 on March 20, 2018, 09:31:25 PM
Leaves – seriously, get a screen cage.  They are great, keep out bugs, leaves, you name it.

Satsuma, great, recommend 2 as they are first to ripen, (November, very early) and they are one of the best citrus you will ever eat.  I say 2 because you’ll be craving citrus come fall.

#2 I deleted – I see you added Valencia, smart.  They will keep on the tree as late as June, giving you about 8 months of citrus.

Don’t forget, you will probably need to do a raised bed for the blueberries, a mixture of peat and pine bark fines.

Stone fruit, I LOVE my Barbados cherry.  Everbearing (except winter), good fruit after the tree is a couple years old.  Highest vitamin C content of anything.  Barbados cherries are as much as 4% vitamin C by weight, believe it or not!

Lime – trust me, get a key lime tree. They are more or less everbearing, giving you limes most of the year.  AND – I have made FRESH key lime pies, WOW!!!

If you must eliminate – I suggest figs (sorry, they don’t keep – at all, and they don’t have tons of taste unless dried).  And guava, sorry, just personally not a huge fan of guava, other than they grow well, and are both drought and flood tolerant.  Just my personal opinion.

Great, great plan, just make sure you space well, and plan out a good DRIP irrigation system.
Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: CA Hockey on March 21, 2018, 04:08:52 AM
Those are good tips for us. The hardest part is making that list of growth habits for each variety. I’ve ignored that so far thinking I can prune to maintain, but you’re right there’s a smart way to arrange this so that I’m working with the plants natural inclinations rather than always fighting with them.


Re Victoria:

That was the plan we started with but we’ve discovered that most landscape designers and architects know more about design principles and aesthetics (which I appreciate) than functionality and growth characteristics and harmonizing the different biologies of the plants.

It got to a point where I actually contracted with some well respected nurserymen in Southern California to help with tree spotting but 3/6 agreed but never started the project and the other 3 said they were too busy. At some point I turned to the forum for some help because frankly I found more knowledge and plant passion here than elsewhere. I’d love to hear your ideas if you have the time for it.

As for water, irvine co has been really reasonable. We have 9 in the house. My water bill in Yorba Linda used to be 400$ each month and that was with minimal watering of plants just keeping them alive during the drought years on 1/3 acre. Now in orange I have a full acre and a different water district and my water bill is 50-60 per month.  But I’m also looking at drilling a well. 🤗 for long term water security.

I’ve hear Barbados cherries are pretty sour. Is that true? It’s held me away from them. Maybe I need to try one...

As for drip systems, how does that get designed? My neighbor recommended a 10 valve system(he just had his landscaping done)  but I’m not sure how to calculate water requirements or setup. Supposedly we have great soil over here that drains really well.


Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: Mugenia on March 21, 2018, 07:59:39 AM
CA Hockey,

Do you know how much it would cost to drill a deep well in Southern California? Who is the most reputable contractor for Southern California? Deep well drilling costs around $8/foot in Georgia. It requires no permit or anything. On our Georgia's old farm, we had a couple of massive wells that pumped thousands of gallon of water for next to nothing. We're spoiled on cheap water.

I have heard a lot of crazy expensive stories about drilling wells in California. So, I am advising my folks against drilling a well on their 5 acres in the Lake Mathews area. If drilling is reasonable in California, I will ask them to reconsider. They are planting an orchard of tropical fruits as a retirement hobby.

Thanks,

M
Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: CA Hockey on March 21, 2018, 10:47:43 PM
M

I just stared looking into it. I found one contractor in Apple valley that will charge out 25-30k including equipment and setup if there is no significant travel. The distance to my house increases their bid to about 40. That’s a hefty sum. Looking for local contractors and other opinions for comparison. They would drill about 400-500 feet.

I’ll keetry you posted when I hear more. Unfortunately I tend to work in spurts, so hopefully I still have energy this week to pursue this, otherwise it’ll get shelves til next week.

K
Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: kar1ma3 on March 22, 2018, 01:14:24 AM
Great plan! I would  love to see all that growing!
I planted many trees 6 years ago on 1.5 acre property and then I started to remove citrus trees, guavas, pomegranates, avocados, bananas (too many bananas and not hurricane safe). Citrus are not so easy to grow (in FL) and fruits are cheap and I do not need so many. Key lime and persian limes are okay. Avocados - also not so expensive and tress are huge. Your mango selection is the best! I would add Glenn (very productive and early, very good when green in salads/ with salt and excellent when not fully ripe when you don't want super sweet mango and also very good in smoothies) and ST mango to the list and possibly Pickering (good taste,compact tree). Also, I would add to your list white sapote, garcinias, especially Bolivian mangosteen and g. brasiliensis, also lemon drop mangosteen and many others, many jaboticabas (they need water): few grimal and hybrid red ones/ escarlate and 10 or more different others. Many different annonas, as many cacao trees as you can grow if humidity is not too low in CA, longan and lychee trees, abiu (one tree may not produce fruits), kwai muk, canistel and ross sapote, moist lucuma, surinam cherry (black), starcherry, pitomba (needs water for high quality fruit), different uvaias (sweet and sweet/sour), e.calycina, grumichama and eugenia candolleana (both partial shade), starfruit, jackfruit (Cristela from Excalibur, so far is the best for me, tree and fruit), star apple, jujube and possibly few others (santol, rose apple, wax jambu etc.)  I can grow cinnamon tree in full sun and it loves a lot of light. Miracle fruit tree loves shade as many garcinias and cacao. Miracle f. is just for fun :) as I do not like sweet tasting Atlantic ocean water after eating those.. :)
Good luck!
Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: OCchris1 on March 22, 2018, 02:08:06 AM
I second kar1ma3. Here is my ceylon cinnamon in full sun...it looks even better now with new fish and flowers (8ft.). The only problem with them in full sun is their need for water...must keep moist or the leaves will get sunburned and desiccate. Chris
Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: OCchris1 on March 22, 2018, 02:10:48 AM
Forgot the pic:
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Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: BajaJohn on March 24, 2018, 03:42:25 AM
You have storage space for gardening equipment, fertiliser, compost etc. and an area to work in if you want to do any gardening? Access for a vehicle if you anticipate delivery of mulch material etc.
Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: CA Hockey on April 11, 2018, 03:13:26 AM
Thanks for all the advice.


Kar1ima, that's quite a list. I have some but not all. It's something for me to work towards for sure. Glenn I may multi-graft onto something.

OC chris, we're probably not too far from each other. I had always thought that cinnamon was supposed to be in shade. Good to hear that it can take full sun but I think I've got a spot for it on the side of the house where it'll get partial sun unless it's better to be in full sun. Same for miracle fruit. I was told conflicting info on miracle fruit -- nursery says shade with few hours of filtered light but online sources say to give it full sun.

Bajajohn, as for storage space, I plan on having a greenhouse in the vicinity of C12-C13

I've attached a grid of where I'm thinking of placing trees and a list with the key (matched locations on grid with name of tree).

In general I tried to group them by type for watering and fertilizer purposes, but it didn't always work out.

Advice again is much appreciated.

Still wrangling on the well. I'd like to really drive that price down, otherwise it may take 30+ years to break even on the investment. If I get a well installed, I will still have to pay 445$/yr for my allotment of water from Orange County, so it's not like being off the grid will be cost-free.

Area C gets afternoon shade but 6+ hours of light including morning, midday, and early afternoon light with late afternoon being filtered.

J gets filtered morning light but full light midday and afternoon.

K and L will get filtered partial light, full mid day sun, but partial afternoon or even shade unless I let grow tall.


A1      A1   Avocado   Nimlioh
A2      A2   Avocado   GEM
A3      A3   Avocado   Nowels
A4      A4   Avocado   Green Gold
A5      A5   Avocado   Nabal
            
B- figs go here with dragon fruit instead of grape vines.             
            
            
C1      C1   Avocado   Sharwil
C2      C2   Avocado   Reed
C3      C3   Mandarin   Multi-mandarin 3
C4      C4   Mandarin   Multi-mandarin 4
C5      C5   Nectarine   
C6      C6   MULTI-Plum/Nectarine   
C7      C7   MULTI-APRICOT   
C8      C8   Nectaplum   Spice-Zee
C9      C9   Peach   Donut peach?
C10      C10   Multi-Pluot2   Emerald Drop + Geo-Pride + Splash
C11      greenhouse space      
C12      greenhouse space      
C13      C13   Multi-Peach   Florida Prince + Desert Gold + May Pride + Mid Pride + Eva's Pride
C14      C14   Multi-Plum   Burgundy plum + Methley plum + Beauty plum + Golden Nectar
C15      C15   Multi-Pluot1   Flavor Queen + Flavor King + Flavor Supreme + Dapple Dandy
C16      C16   Minneola   In-ground
C17   S   Aprium   Cot-N-Candy   Multi-cot-n-candy 17
C18   S   Aprium   Flavor Delight   Multi-flavor delight 18
C19   S   Aprium   Leah-Cot   Multi-leah-cot 19
C20   S   Aprium   Summer Delight   Multi-summer delight 20
D1      D1   Mulberry   MULTI-black persian, white lavender, , 2 others
D2      D2   Avocado   Queen
D3      D3   Avocado   Carmen Hass
D4      D4   Avocado   Fuerte
D5      D5   Avocado   Multi-2
D6      D6   Avocado   Hellen
D7   S   D7   Mulberry   Black Pakistan
D8   S   D8   Mulberry   Dwarf
D9   S   D9   Specialty   Indio Mandarinquat
D10   S   D10   Mulberry   White Pakistan
D11   S   D11   Kumquat   Nagami
D12   S   D12   Kumquat   Nordmann
D13   S   D13   Kumquat   Meiwa
D14   S   D14   Specialty   Calamondin
E1      E1   Avocado   Herd
E2      E2   Avocado   Lamb Hass
E3      E3   Avocado   Pinkerton
E4      E4   Avocado   Hass In-ground
E5      E5   Avocado   Multi-1
E6      E6   Avocado   Yamagata
E7      E7   Avocado   Oro Negro
E8      E8   Avocado   Holiday
E9      E9   Avocado   Kahalu'u
E10      E10   Avocado   Jan Boyce
E11      E11   Avocado   Sir Prize
E12   S   E12   Specialty   Marrakesh Limonette
E13   S   E13   Specialty   Rangpur Lime
E14   S   E14   Specialty   Yuzu
E15   S   E15   Lime   Kaffir Lime
E16   S   E16   Mandarin   Satsuma
E17   S   E17   Mandarin   Sudachi
E18   S   E18   Avocado   Hass
E19   S   E19   Avocado   Jan Boyce or Sharwil
E20      E20   Avocado   Rootstock/newly grafted
E21      E21   Avocado   Rootstock/newly grafted
E22   S   E22   Avocado   Ardith
E23   S   E23   Avocado   Sharwil on DUSA
E24   S   E24   Avocado   Rootstock/newly grafted
E25   S   E25   Avocado   Rootstock/newly grafted
E26   S   E26   Avocado   Rootstock/newly grafted
E27   S   E27   Avocado   Carmen Hass VS Chucte
F1   S   F1   Persimmon   Chocolate + GRAFT
F2   S   F2   Multi-Cherry-Plum   Delight + Sprite
F3      F3   Persimmon   Coffee Cake + 2 GRAFTS
F4      F4   Mango   Multi-Mango -- Edward, Angie, Carrie
F5      F5   Persimmon   Fuyu 'Jiro'
F6      F6   Persimmon   Giant Fuyu
F7      F7   Olive    Olive #1
F8      F8   Persimmon   Saijo + multi-graft
F9      F9   Multi-Mix   Babcock white peach + Fantasia nectarine + July (Kim) Elberta peach + Blenheim Royal apricot + Santa Rosa plum
F10      F10   Multi-Apple   Dorsett Golden + Anna + Fuji Red (#1 Akiful) + Gordon + 2 grafts
F11      F11   Cherry   Minnie Royal
F12      F12   Cherry   Royal Lee
F13   S   F13   Cherry   Minnie Royal
F14   S   F14   Cherry   6GM25
F15   S   F15   Nectarine   Spice-Zee
F16   S   F16   Pluot   Flavor Grenade
F17   S   F17   Cherry   6GM25
F18   S   F18   Tangelo   Minneola
F19   S   F19   Pluerry   Candy Heart
F20   S   F20   Pluerry   Sweet Treat
F21   S   F21   Pluot   Dapple Supreme
F22   S   F22   Pluot   Flavor Finale
F23   S   F23   Mandarin   Lee x Nova
F24   S   F24   Mandarin   Lee x Nova
F25   S   F25   Mandarin   Lee x Nova
F26   S   F26   Mandarin   Lee x Nova
F27   S   F27   Mandarin   Miho Wase
F28   S   F28   Mandarin   Pixie
F29   S   F29   Multi-Annona   Multi-half
F30   S   F30   Multi-Annona   Multi-half
F31   S   F31   Blueberry   Misty
F32   S   F32   Blueberry   Pink Lemonade
F33   S   F33   Blueberry   Southmoon
F34   S   F34   Blueberry   Unknown
F35   S   F35   Cherimoya   El Bumpo
F36   S   F36   Hosui   Hosui
F37   S   F37   Cherimoya   Gift
F38   S   F38   Asian Pear   20th Century
G1   S   G1   Citrus   Multi- Pink Lemon + Bearrs Lime + Navel Orange
G2   S   G2   Mango   Cotton Candy
G3      G3   Mango   Kathy
G4      G4   Mango   Fruit Punch
G5      G5   Mango   Juicy Peach
G6      G6   Mango   Coconut Crème
G7      G7   Mango   Lemon Zest
G8      G8   Olive    Olive #3
G9      G9   Mango   M-4
G10      G10   Mulberry   Teas Weeping
G11      G11   Pomegranate   Grenada
G12      G12   Pomegranate   Parfianka
G13   S   G13   Pomegranate   Red Silk
G14   S   G14   Pomegranate   Wonderful
G15   S   G15   Mango   Edgehill
G16   S   G16   Mango   Keitt (Manila)
G17   S   G17   Mango   20222
G18   S   G18   Mango   Lemon Meringue/PPK
G19   S   G19   Green Sapote   green sapote
G20   S   G20   Mango   Ambrosia
G21   S   G21   Mamey Sapote   Pace
G22   S   G22   Mango   Madame Francis
G23   S   G23   Pomegranate   Yellow
G24   S   G24   Pomegranate   Ganesh evergreen
G25   S   G25   Pomegranate   DPUN
G26   S   G26   Pomegranate   UCR- white
G27   S   G27   Black Sapote   Black Beauty
G28   S   G28   Black Sapote   Reinecke
G29   S   G29   Mango   Manila Queen
G30   S   G30   Mango   Venus
G31   S   G31   Mango   Orange Sherbet*
G32   S   G32   Mango   Kesar
G33   S   G33   Mango   Mallika
G34   S   G34   Mango   M-4
H1   S   H1   Mango   Keitt (Turpentine)
H2   S   H2   Mango   Orange Essence
H3      H3   Mango   Phoenix
H4      H4   Mango   Peach Cobbler
H5      H5   Mango   Sweet Tart
H6      H6   Jaboticaba   Murta
H7      H7   Jaboticaba   Seedling
H8   S   H8   Jaboticaba   Blue
H9   S   H9   Jaboticaba   Grimal
H10   S   H10   Jaboticaba   Yellow
H11   S   H11   Jaboticaba   Red
H12   S   H12   Jaboticaba   White
H13   S   H13   Grumichama   Multi-grumichama 13
H14   S   H14   Cherry of the Rio Grande   Ben's Beaut
H15   S   H15   Cherry of the Rio Grande   Round rio (seedling)
H16   S   H16   Cherry of the Rio Grande   Round rio (seedling)
H17   S   H17   Cherry of the Rio Grande   Bountiful Harvest
I1   S   I1   Mango   Multi-Honeykiss, pineapple pleasure, pina colada
I2   S   I2   Cherimoya   Pierce
I3      I3   Olive    Olive #2
I4      I4   Cherimoya   Fino de Jete
I5      I5   Atemoya   African Pride
I6      I6   Mango   Multi-Fruit Punch + Lemon Zest
I7      I7   Mango   Multi-Orange Sherbet*
I8      I8   Guava   Bassateen el sabahia (Egyptian)
I9      I9   Guava   Variegated Guava
I10   S   I10   Papaya   Dwarf Brazilian
I11   S   I11   Sapodilla   Tikal, multi-/moreno
I12   S   I12   Coffee   Kona Coiffee
I13   S   I13   Peanut Butter Fruit   peanut butter fruit
I14   S   I14   Surinam Cherry   Zill's Dark
I15   S   I14   Barbados Cherry   barbados cherry
I16   S   I16   Cherimoya   Santa Rosa
I17   S   I17   Multi-Annona   Multi-all
I18   S   I18   Multi-Annona   Behl Annona multi
I19   S   I19   Strawberry guava   Red Strawberry Guava
J1   S   J1   Mandarin   Algerian
J2   S   J2   Mango   Multi-Ambrosia
J3      J3   Mandarin   Daisy
J4      J4   Mandarin   Tango
J5      J5   Mango   Multi-Mallika
J6      J6   Mandarin   Yosemite Gold
J7      J7   Mandarin   Tahoe Gold
J8      J8   Mandarin   Shasta Gold
J9      J9   Mandarin   Ponkan
J10      J10   Mandarin   Lee x Nova
J11      J11   Mandarin   Xie Shan
J12      J12   Multi-Mandarin1   Shiranui + Shiranui + Clementine Nules +China S-9 + Okitsu Wase
J13      J13   Multi-Mandarin2   Page + Dancy + Kishu + Algerian + Honey
J14      J14   Orange   Cara Cara
J15      J15   Orange   Multi-Orange 1
J16      J16   Tangor   Multi-Tangor
K1      K1   Orange   Multi-Orange 2
K2      K2   Lemon   New Zealand Lemonade
K3      K3   Lemon   Villafranca Lemon
K4      K4   Lemon   Santa Teresa Lemon
K5      K5   Lime   Thornless Mexican Lime
L1      L1   MULTI-LEMON   MULTI-LEMON
L2      L2   Lemon   Ponderosa
L3      L3   Lime   Multi-Lime
L4      L4   Citrus   Multi-special
L5      L5   Citrus   Buddha's hand
L6      L6   Citrus   Existing Valencia Navel Orange
            
      MISCELLANEOUS      
            
      on western side of house   Cinnamon   Cinnamon
            
      pool? Fence?   Elderberry   
            
      pool? Fence?   Goji Berry   
            
      POT - observe for growth   Multi-Annona   Satin vs Coochie Island + Atemoya x cherimoya
            
      EASTERN FENCE   Passionfruit   
            
      4-7 Grapes in trellises      
            
      around pool   Berry   Bababerry Raspberry
      around pool   Berry   Boysenberry Thornless
      around pool   Berry   Olallieberry
      around pool   Berry   Triple Crown Blackberry
            
      F7   Olive   Arbequina
      G8   Olive   Arbosana
      I3   Olive   Unknown
            
      POT   Avocado   Pinkerton
      POT   Avocado   Pinkerton
      POT   Pomegranate   Yellow
      pot? Rootstock?   Multi-Annona   Satin vs Coochie Island + Atemoya x cherimoya
      POTS   Avocado   Rootstock x 12
      POTS   Citrus   Rootstock x 7
            
      GREENHOUSE   TROPICALS   
      GREENHOUSE   Annona Scleroderma   Posh-te
      GREENHOUSE   Cacao   Yellow
      GREENHOUSE   Cacao   Red
      GREENHOUSE   Cacao   Trinitario
      GREENHOUSE   Cacao   Criollo
      GREENHOUSE   White Cacao   Macombo
            
         DRAGON FRUIT   
         Dragon Fruit   White
         Dragon Fruit   White Vietnamese
         Dragon Fruit   Dark Star
         Dragon Fruit   ? Hailey's Comet
         Dragon Fruit   Yellow
         Dragon Fruit   Yellow
         Dragon Fruit   Unknown
            
         FIG   
         Fig   Gary's Fig
         Fig   Green Ischia
         Fig   Janice Seedless Kadota
         Fig   LSU Purple
         Fig   Tiger Panache
         Fig   Violette de Bordeaux
         Fig   White Kadota
            
         GRAPE   
         Type   Cultivar
         Grape   Einset
         Grape   Razzmatazz
         Grape   Suffolk Red
         Grape   White Marquis
         Grape   Unknown
         Grape   Unknown
         Grape   Unknown

Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: behlgarden on April 11, 2018, 01:39:13 PM
wholy smokes, that yard would turn into a fruit jungle  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: Mugenia on April 11, 2018, 01:45:03 PM
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Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: CA Hockey on April 11, 2018, 06:28:33 PM
wholy smokes, that yard would turn into a fruit jungle  ;D ;D


I hope so. Would be nice to just stroll through and have yummy fruit just drop into my hands or dangle in front. Push one branch out of the way and have something ripe plop in front. :-)
Title: Re: Advice on tree placement for landscaping project
Post by: behlgarden on April 12, 2018, 10:46:40 AM
wholy smokes, that yard would turn into a fruit jungle  ;D ;D


I hope so. Would be nice to just stroll through and have yummy fruit just drop into my hands or dangle in front. Push one branch out of the way and have something ripe plop in front. :-)

you realize you will have multiple kids of fruits 365 days of the year. get an Organic fruit stand built in front  ;) ;)