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Title: Papaya relative possibly? Can anyone ID this legume from Vietnam?
Post by: Sven on August 09, 2018, 02:02:36 PM
 I was trying to buy some Yum berry fruit seeds from someone in Vietnam last year and they sent seeds for this plant instead.  The seeds looks like a dried pea except they were tan in color.   They germinated well and made it through the winter but they dropped all their leaves.    They were small plants so they may not be deciduous at maturity.  It may not even be an edible plant but if anyone has any idea what it might be Iíd appreciate it. Thank you


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Title: Re: Can anyone ID this legume from Vietnam?
Post by: So_Cal_Mike on August 09, 2018, 03:32:02 PM
It doesn’t really look leguminous to me... more like some kind of wierd papaya that formed an unholy marriage with a tamarillo.
Title: Re: Can anyone ID this legume from Vietnam?
Post by: ricshaw on August 09, 2018, 03:45:36 PM
If you are on Facebook...

There is a Vietnamese Exotic & Tropical Fruit Growers group that may be able to help you.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/430076437329439/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/430076437329439/)
Title: Re: Can anyone ID this legume from Vietnam?
Post by: Sven on August 09, 2018, 03:55:08 PM
Ha. It does very much look like that.   The plant does look very papaya like.  I had to go back a ways but I have attached some pictures of the seed and they do look like extra large papaya seeds possibly. So I think youíre onto something. Perhaps just a weird papaya variety or a papaya relative.


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Title: Re: Can anyone ID this legume from Vietnam?
Post by: Sven on August 09, 2018, 03:56:16 PM
Thank you I will check it out

If you are on Facebook...

There is a Vietnamese Exotic & Tropical Fruit Growers group that may be able to help you.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/430076437329439/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/430076437329439/)
Title: Re: Papaya relative possibly? Can anyone ID this legume from Vietnam?
Post by: So_Cal_Mike on August 09, 2018, 07:45:55 PM
Yeah, those seeds do look more papaya like than pea like.

I notice in your third picture the new leaf coming out is turning more palmate than spade shaped like the others. Leaning more towards papaya/papaya relitive.
Does it bleed milky white like a papaya?
Title: Re: Papaya relative possibly? Can anyone ID this legume from Vietnam?
Post by: Sven on August 09, 2018, 10:22:00 PM
 I cut one of the petioles and scraped some of the bark but no white latex. Itís hard to tell if the leaves are changing shape or if itís just slight variations at this point. Maybe itís something like an Oak leaved papaya and the juvenile leaves are not separated. The seeds were certainly at least three or four times the size of a regular papaya seed. Itíll be easier once they start blooming.
Title: Re: Papaya relative possibly? Can anyone ID this legume from Vietnam?
Post by: So_Cal_Mike on August 09, 2018, 10:57:54 PM
hmmm... no milky white sap... curiouser and curiouser.

I find these unknown plant threads very interesting... please keep us updated!
Title: Re: Papaya relative possibly? Can anyone ID this legume from Vietnam?
Post by: lebmung on August 10, 2018, 05:59:01 AM
That is not papaya or any vasconcellea. The seeds are different.