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Title: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: mangomongo on January 12, 2019, 06:37:03 PM
I know this gets beat to death but it still seems relevant to talk about with so many new varieties.

There are some I have not had the opportunity to try yet but I did get to try a bunch of new and new to me Mangos in 2018 and it definitely rearranged my TOP Ten.

Based on Flavor

#1 for me is still Coconut cream
  2 E4 ( first year to try it.)
  3 Sweet tart
  4 Carrie
  5 CAC
  6 Pina Collada  ( first year to try it)
  7 Beverly
  8 Lemon zest/lemon merengue ( pretty much tasted the same for me this year)
  9 Southern blush 
10 DOT

              Just as a point of reference, I ate a lot of mangos this year.

             Honorable mention                                   
             
          Gary, venus, fruit cocktail, "young", haden (still classy), Edward, Gary, Julie,                             

 
No longer in Favor (could have been off year for them ? Also, JMHO.)
             
        Val Carrie, Graham ( jelly sead), julliet, Pickering, Maha, Valencia pride, cogshall (jelly sead), NDM, florogon, Rosigold

  New to me this year but not impressed with

 creambrulee, fruit punch, harvest moon, Choc anon, Cushman, Duncan, Kathy, O-15, Pineapple pleasure, J-12 dwarf Hawaiian, Rapoza 

 

                            *Still waiting to try*     

  Orange sherbet, M-4, Guava, butter cream, Peach cobbler, Honey kiss, spirit of 76, ugly betty, phoenix, cotton candy,
orange essence, Juicy peach, Edgar, Angie
 

                     
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: mangokothiyan on January 12, 2019, 06:52:13 PM


My top ten, in no particular order, would be:

Sunrise,

Val Carrie,

Ugly Bettty,

Guava,

Triple Sec,

Lemon Meringue,

Edgar,

Orange Essence,

Fruit Punch

Cotton Candy.
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: mangomongo on January 12, 2019, 07:52:28 PM
I guess I need to add sunrise and triple sec to my wish list. I have one branch of triple sec topworked and waiting for another season ( but I still call it seacrest as I like that name better lol)



My top ten, in no particular order, would be:

Sunrise,

Val Carrie,

Ugly Bettty,

Guava,

Triple Sec,

Lemon Meringue,

Edgar,

Orange Essence,

Fruit Punch

Cotton Candy.
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: skhan on January 12, 2019, 09:26:52 PM
No particular order

Cac
Pineapple pleasure
Pina colada
Zinc
Val Carrie
Sugar loaf
Super Julie
Venus
Orange sherbet
Indira

Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: JF on January 12, 2019, 09:36:10 PM
LZ
ST
Señorita
Zinc
E4
OS
Creme brûlée
Parson
M4
HK
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: 561MangoFanatic on January 13, 2019, 10:26:16 AM
In order-

Best
ShweHintah
Guava
ButterCream
Venus
SweetTart
Kathy
Dot
Cac
Orange Essence


Others that would make my top 20 if I could only plant about 2 dozen trees-

Zinc, Zill 36-8(India), Coconut Cream, M4, Gary, Jehangar, Lemon Meringue, Pina Colada, Honey Kiss, & Fruit Punch.
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: MameyDisco on January 13, 2019, 10:55:46 AM
This is a great era for new mango varieties.

We will be seeing a lot more unique cultivars popping up.
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: Frog Valley Farm on January 13, 2019, 04:10:36 PM
I just went to Zills Friday and picked up 20 Mangos of varieties we already have.  3 Guava, 3 Orange Sherbert, 3 Butter Cream, 3 Triple Sec; 3 Peach Cobbler, 3 Fruit Punch, 2 Sweet Tart.  From my observations while at Zills, they do not have very many Sweet Tart left.  The Sweet Tart do show fungal damage on the leaf. We now have 164 mango trees and are trying to get to 300 by the end of this summer.

We love Zills everything.  We are organic. Our farm is only a few miles from the most biodiverse marine estuary in North America, Mantees, Dolphins, Seat turtles it’s beautiful.  All copper fungicides are toxic to all aquatic life including OMRI listed copper fungicides..  We do not use OMRI copper fungicides.  OMRI fungicides should only be used as last resort, then only with restrictions.  Fungicides and trees that do not cycle their own nutrients is a problem with industrially grown Mangos from Lake Worth, Fl. for us in our system.  A large percentage of trees will not survive in our system if planted directly after being purchased.

For us to get a good Zill Mango tree survival rate.  Before planting into our organic system, we Spray/drench 2x each input with, em1, dust with small quantities of donkey/mule manure, Spray/drench with a Biodynamic Compost tea, dust with Biodynamic Compost, dust with dirt taken from under large oak tree.  Repeat everything, then plant.  This has been successful for us if we follow with, small increments applied periodically of raw manure, carbon, biochar, Biodynamic Compost and various biodynamic sprays. Zills Mangos thrive in Florida for us while being grown organically. We love ZHPP.
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: zands on January 13, 2019, 07:10:54 PM
I know this gets beat to death but it still seems relevant to talk about with so many new varieties.

Nothing wrong with winter mango musings. In baseball this is/was called the "hot stove league"   All you need is a few budding mango panicles to set off excitement for the upcoming mango season. It has been very dry/ no rain here in SE Florida so my 2019 hopes are up and up/
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: Frog Valley Farm on January 14, 2019, 07:46:24 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/8JLPw8zk/86589834-6-BC0-4-CF7-BBF3-6-D1739-FB80-A4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8JLPw8zk)
A farm grown, 1.5years, Zills Sweet Tart. A very healthy tree cycling nutrients organically.
(https://i.postimg.cc/V5V06w0p/5-B4-F2010-F2-EB-48-CD-BB48-04-EEC0-DA748-C.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/V5V06w0p)
Zills O-15 planted 12/18, doing nicely
(https://i.postimg.cc/sMVtMkWd/C0244-A16-109-F-4985-AD2-E-85-B71-F377070.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sMVtMkWd)
Edgar planted 12/18., and swelling. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/w7GmMm3h/BEF4-B5-CD-50-E5-4177-A031-D0-F6404-EE41-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w7GmMm3h)
Angie, tip pruned at planting 12/18.

(https://i.postimg.cc/XpQTCV0K/49-D9959-A-1221-42-D7-A288-35133-FC038-C7.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XpQTCV0K)
Zills Guava, planted 12/18
(https://i.postimg.cc/hfcBmyQn/51-D70240-0-C86-4549-8-C8-C-BE9-B328-A012-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hfcBmyQn)
Ahhh, Zills Butter Cream planted 12/1. Cannot wait.

(https://i.postimg.cc/zLZZJxr4/A21-E2523-9-CA7-44-E6-BD6-F-610041-EB2-C6-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zLZZJxr4)
Pineapple Pleasure, planted 12/18
(https://i.postimg.cc/ppwNJPdg/95-E46416-D1-E9-40-CD-AA48-56-C6-CDD82-A76.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ppwNJPdg)
Zills Sugar Loaf planted 11/18
(https://i.postimg.cc/YjVCG457/B5-C2-FDC4-D379-44-C4-9503-F9-F30-A900260.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YjVCG457)
Zills Lemon Zest planted 8/16 direct from nursery to ground.

(https://i.postimg.cc/56xQtN5x/AF27-CD60-D5-D5-441-A-821-C-5-E0-DE553-FF8-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/56xQtN5x)
Zills Coconut Cream, planted 6/17, full bloom

(https://i.postimg.cc/m1g6S11b/C0035876-F30-F-4-EA6-9832-734-EF239656-D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/m1g6S11b)
Zills Pina Collada? Lost tag planted 6/17 in full bloom
(https://i.postimg.cc/xq0bchwD/BB382-DD9-7-C0-C-4622-A7-A8-87-B22912-F0-C0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xq0bchwD)
Zills All Summer, Planted 12/18
(https://i.postimg.cc/WhK4sHmv/05-EF9-B32-8-C21-4665-B905-6-A4-BE6-B42-CEA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WhK4sHmv)
Ahh, Zills Cotton Candy, we will have fruit this year on 6/17 planted trees. This tree planted 12/18.
(https://i.postimg.cc/RqPSRZ0d/6-A799740-31-E6-44-EC-BD73-1928-FCE594-D0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RqPSRZ0d)
Zills Honey Kiss,  planted 10/17, this tree set 2 fruit last season and is pushing partially now.
Guava tip pruned at planting 12/18
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: johnb51 on January 14, 2019, 08:56:32 AM
Our farm is only a few miles from the most biodiverse marine estuary in North America, Mantees, Dolphins, Seat turtles it’s beautiful.
Which would be Indian River Lagoon, correct?  Where exactly are you in Brevard County?
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: WGphil on January 14, 2019, 03:52:12 PM
No particular order

Ppk
Orange Sherbet
E-4
Lemon Zest
Phoenix
Coconut Cream
Sweet tart
O-2
Guava
Edgar

Still others left to taste
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: mangomongo on January 14, 2019, 09:33:59 PM
when will you have mangos for sale. I Have a whole bunch I want to Try before I buy .

I just went to Zills Friday and picked up 20 Mangos of varieties we already have.  3 Guava, 3 Orange Sherbert, 3 Butter Cream, 3 Triple Sec; 3 Peach Cobbler, 3 Fruit Punch, 2 Sweet Tart.  From my observations while at Zills, they do not have very many Sweet Tart left.  The Sweet Tart do show fungal damage on the leaf. We now have 164 mango trees and are trying to get to 300 by the end of this summer.

We love Zills everything.  We are organic. Our farm is only a few miles from the most biodiverse marine estuary in North America, Mantees, Dolphins, Seat turtles it’s beautiful.  All copper fungicides are toxic to all aquatic life including OMRI listed copper fungicides..  We do not use OMRI copper fungicides.  OMRI fungicides should only be used as last resort, then only with restrictions.  Fungicides and trees that do not cycle their own nutrients is a problem with industrially grown Mangos from Lake Worth, Fl. for us in our system.  A large percentage of trees will not survive in our system if planted directly after being purchased.

For us to get a good Zill Mango tree survival rate.  Before planting into our organic system, we Spray/drench 2x each input with, em1, dust with small quantities of donkey/mule manure, Spray/drench with a Biodynamic Compost tea, dust with Biodynamic Compost, dust with dirt taken from under large oak tree.  Repeat everything, then plant.  This has been successful for us if we follow with, small increments applied periodically of raw manure, carbon, biochar, Biodynamic Compost and various biodynamic sprays. Zills Mangos thrive in Florida for us while being grown organically. We love ZHPP.
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: Frog Valley Farm on January 15, 2019, 04:58:47 AM
We are waiting on our USDA organic certification and in March we apply for Demeter USA certification.  We would like to wait until we have both certificates before selling anything.  Possibly in 2020 we will start having enough fruit to sell.  Plenty for personal use until then.  We might start offering fresh grown produce this summer but probably not many Mangos.  We’ve currently got tomatoes, fennel, yellow nut onions, Cilantro, Yacon, Jalapeños, kale, purple tree collards, cabbage, lettuce, greens and millions of red and purple Japanese sweet potatoes. Yikes it doesn’t stop!
(https://i.postimg.cc/z3QmMmHj/5-A0-BE62-F-9977-4-B30-BFCE-314737-AF01-EA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3QmMmHj)

(https://i.postimg.cc/kBtrPjxd/8-B1-ADA2-A-461-B-48-B9-B0-E3-D0-E4781640-B8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBtrPjxd)
The Zill Mango, planted 12/18

(https://i.postimg.cc/9DgXLNMS/7-BF426-CC-6-A2-C-4-A23-971-C-0-E6-C88-CCA469.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9DgXLNMS)
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: DurianLover on January 15, 2019, 11:07:22 AM
I know this gets beat to death but it still seems relevant to talk about with so many new varieties.
                   

That's just gross understatement. This topic has been beaten to death, than brought back to life with some magic woodoo powers in order to be beaten again :))
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: WGphil on January 15, 2019, 11:26:48 AM
I can’t wait for the best of 2019’thread
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: roblack on January 15, 2019, 03:03:20 PM
the best mango I've had lately was a jujube. can't wait
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: mangomongo on January 15, 2019, 06:38:51 PM
True story.
I know this gets beat to death but it still seems relevant to talk about with so many new varieties.
                   

That's just gross understatement. This topic has been beaten to death, than brought back to life with some magic woodoo powers in order to be beaten again :))
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: simon_grow on January 16, 2019, 07:03:59 PM
In no particular order:

Lemon Zest
Sweet Tart
Senorita
CAC
Po Pyu Kalay(Lemon Meringue)
Piña Colada
DOT
Pineapple Pleasure
Kesar
E4

Simon
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: FMfruitforest on January 16, 2019, 07:26:40 PM
Coconut Cream
Old Seedling peachy
Orange sherbert
Juliette
Nam Doc Child
Mahachanok
Lemonzest
White Angel
CAC
Edward

Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: wslau on January 16, 2019, 09:19:56 PM
Coconut Cream
Old Seedling peachy
Orange sherbert
Juliette
Nam Doc Child
Mahachanok
Lemonzest
White Angel
CAC
Edward

Never heard of White Angel mango.  Anyone have info on it?
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: Brev Grower on January 17, 2019, 01:20:22 PM
Not having tried all of the new zill varieties yet-
Mostly in order:

Lemon Zest
Carrie
Bailey’s Marvel
Kent seedling
Orange essence
M-4
Maha Chanok
Bombay
Edward
Sweet Tart
Honey Kiss

Oops, that was 11:)
New ones tried that I did not like: gold nugget, little gem, and juliette. Just sayin...IMO
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: Das Bhut on April 04, 2019, 12:14:12 AM
anyone know when sweet tart, cotton candy, phoenix, buttercream, and orange sherbert ripen?
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: palingkecil on June 12, 2019, 05:32:38 PM
I am a newbie, here in California. So jealous of all the mangoes you guys grow in Florida. Anyone know how I can buy the Zills honey kiss in Cali? Does Zills ship to Cali?

Thanks
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: JF on June 12, 2019, 05:47:40 PM
Zill do t ship to CA. Try plantOgram they ship to CA
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: gozp on June 12, 2019, 06:29:54 PM
I am a newbie, here in California. So jealous of all the mangoes you guys grow in Florida. Anyone know how I can buy the Zills honey kiss in Cali? Does Zills ship to Cali?

Thanks

JF might have grafted Honey kiss for sale?
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: Das Bhut on June 12, 2019, 08:33:05 PM
someone correct me if I'm wrong but from what I've gathered:

E-4 sugar loaf: pineapple/coconut flavor, green mango, mid season, slow growing spreading habit, not sure about disease resistance yet

orange essence: citrus, yellow mango, mid season, vigorous upright habit, leaves get a lot of mold during the winter but no other problems

honey kiss: traditional, red mango, slow growing spreading habit, good disease resistance
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: Oolie on August 12, 2019, 09:08:07 PM
Coconut Cream
Old Seedling peachy
Orange sherbert
Juliette
Nam Doc Child
Mahachanok
Lemonzest
White Angel
CAC
Edward

Never heard of White Angel mango.  Anyone have info on it?

White Angel AKA Rajapuri.
I'd be interested in acquiring this as well.

I haven't formed a top ten yet, though I hope to sample enough in September to come to an informed decision at least for west coast grown mangoes.
Title: Re: whats your Top Ten Mango list sence new Zill Verieties. (2018)
Post by: Jungle Yard on August 12, 2019, 09:23:01 PM
How come, no one mentioned Alampur Baneshan? It blew my socks off.