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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: mangomanic12 on November 01, 2012, 01:52:00 PM

Title: Fruit tree planting in Non- native soil... your experiences plz ..
Post by: mangomanic12 on November 01, 2012, 01:52:00 PM
I have heavy clay out here in Phx , Az.  Citrus , Pomeganates adapt to the soil pretty easily here and thrive. Mangoes  etc. , a different matter  :-[

Has anyone created a planting bed with non native soil such as a mixture of sand / compost etc  4 x 4 feet  or  so for fruit trees?

1. What type of fruit tree was it ?
2. Has the tree grown and fruited for you ?
3. How long has it been planted in the non- native soil ?
4. Over the years what worked for you and what didn't?

Reason i asked is that i have a couple of large holes dug for a couple mangoes and want to backfill with sand / compost/ mulch mix .
Anyone please feel free to offer your experiences/ results. Thx . Mike :)
Title: Re: Fruit tree planting in Non- native soil... your experiences plz ..
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on November 01, 2012, 02:38:12 PM
Have you heard about Grimal and Whitman?

Limerock dug up with pick axes, cisterns created, holes plugged into water table at bottom of limerock hole, then refilled with acid soil...the result, happy plants from countries with acid Ph of soil...located in limerock soils of south FL...in giant in ground pots!

Problems included fungus attacks, salt water intrusion, and more.

but this is an amazing method of growing in containers!  In the ground! Most don't realize that these FL fruit pioneers grew all of their plants in POTS!!!

more can be accomplished in a container it seems!  :)
Title: Re: Fruit tree planting in Non- native soil... your experiences plz ..
Post by: BMc on November 01, 2012, 06:02:32 PM
Mix with local soil. Mound above the hole. You want to provide it with something between perfect media and the local soil, so that it can adapt to the soil and get roots out into the dirt/clay.
Title: Re: Fruit tree planting in Non- native soil... your experiences plz ..
Post by: mangomanic12 on November 01, 2012, 07:58:57 PM
@ Asaffron i will certainly  read up on Grimal and Whitman and their technique !

@Bmc - i'll take your idea and make sure i mix in some of my hard clay - maybe at 25% ???? :D

Thanks to both of you.

I find it hard to believe  no one has done this - no more takers????
I guess there is no need to especially in nice , easy sandy areas to plant in as Florida !
Thanks all!
Title: Re: Fruit tree planting in Non- native soil... your experiences plz ..
Post by: Guanabanus on November 02, 2012, 09:20:38 AM
We planted bananas in large in hard clay in Amazonas, Brazil.  The hole was filled with topsoil, kitchen garbage, leaves, and charcoal dust.  Results were fantastic.