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Title: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: JulianoGS on July 08, 2019, 05:48:53 PM
Hello folks, I have a small backyard so I am looking into making the most of the space that I have. ;)

Would like to hear your input on which mango variety to select for this project.

Mango tree type; preferably a consistent producer, medium to large size fruit, and of course tasty.
;D
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: edzone9 on July 08, 2019, 05:57:37 PM
If it was my yard I will definitely plant a Pickering , and maybe plant 3 Trees in 1 Hole 👍

Good luck .

Ed
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: simon_grow on July 08, 2019, 06:06:05 PM
Welcome to the forum JulianoGS!

You can find a lot of information regarding the different tasting Mangos, size of trees and favorite varieties if you use the search function towards the top of the page.

Hereís a thread that talks about some of the favorites for this year
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=32597.0 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=32597.0)

This link has favorite varieties to the last several years
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=31734.msg349437#msg349437 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=31734.msg349437#msg349437)

This Ultimate mango list has comprehensive info regarding many different types of mangos
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=1586.msg21809#msg21809 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=1586.msg21809#msg21809)

The information contained in the Tropical Acres website is one of the best resources out there. Alex is one of our most knowledgeable members on this forum.
https://www.tropicalacresfarms.com/ (https://www.tropicalacresfarms.com/)

Container Mangos
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=12767.0 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=12767.0)

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=23229.msg278297#msg278297 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=23229.msg278297#msg278297)

Last but not least, hereís what your probably looking for, compact Mango suggestions
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=17443.0 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=17443.0)

Simon

Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: Future on July 08, 2019, 06:34:53 PM
Welcome to the forum JulianoGS!

You can find a lot of information regarding the different tasting Mangos, size of trees and favorite varieties if you use the search function towards the top of the page.

Hereís a thread that talks about some of the favorites for this year
[url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=32597.0[/url] ([url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=32597.0[/url])

This link has favorite varieties to the last several years
[url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=31734.msg349437#msg349437[/url] ([url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=31734.msg349437#msg349437[/url])

This Ultimate mango list has comprehensive info regarding many different types of mangos
[url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=1586.msg21809#msg21809[/url] ([url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=1586.msg21809#msg21809[/url])

The information contained in the Tropical Acres website is one of the best resources out there. Alex is one of our most knowledgeable members on this forum.
[url]https://www.tropicalacresfarms.com/[/url] ([url]https://www.tropicalacresfarms.com/[/url])

Container Mangos
[url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=12767.0[/url] ([url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=12767.0[/url])

[url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=23229.msg278297#msg278297[/url] ([url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=23229.msg278297#msg278297[/url])

Last but not least, hereís what your probably looking for, compact Mango suggestions
[url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=17443.0[/url] ([url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=17443.0[/url])

Simon


Nicely done Simon!!  Thats a heckuva newbie resources list.
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: Coach62 on July 08, 2019, 08:09:06 PM
+1 on the Pickering.  Excellent fruit in a very productive, compact tree.
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: starch on July 08, 2019, 11:12:16 PM
Welcome to the forum JulianoGS!

You can find a lot of information regarding the different tasting Mangos, size of trees and favorite varieties if you use the search function towards the top of the page.

Hereís a thread that talks about some of the favorites for this year
[url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=32597.0[/url] ([url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=32597.0[/url])

This link has favorite varieties to the last several years
[url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=31734.msg349437#msg349437[/url] ([url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=31734.msg349437#msg349437[/url])

This Ultimate mango list has comprehensive info regarding many different types of mangos
[url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=1586.msg21809#msg21809[/url] ([url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=1586.msg21809#msg21809[/url])

The information contained in the Tropical Acres website is one of the best resources out there. Alex is one of our most knowledgeable members on this forum.
[url]https://www.tropicalacresfarms.com/[/url] ([url]https://www.tropicalacresfarms.com/[/url])

Container Mangos
[url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=12767.0[/url] ([url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=12767.0[/url])

[url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=23229.msg278297#msg278297[/url] ([url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=23229.msg278297#msg278297[/url])

Last but not least, hereís what your probably looking for, compact Mango suggestions
[url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=17443.0[/url] ([url]http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=17443.0[/url])

Simon


Nicely done Simon!!  Thats a heckuva newbie resources list.


Couldn't agree more, thanks Simon!
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: simon_grow on July 09, 2019, 12:10:21 AM
Anytime. This forum has helped me so much, I just want to return the favor.

JulianoGS, thatís probably enough reading for at least a couple days.

I personally wouldnít think too much about the size of the fruit. You can just eat two or three smaller fruit to get full. Some of my favorite mango varieties like PiŮa Colada, Ice Cream, PPK, Gary and Sweet Tarts( if not thinned) are on the smaller size.

I would agree with others that Pickering is a good choice for a compact mango that can be kept relatively small, tastes good and is productive.

My best advice would be to taste as many varieties as you can before you purchase a tree.

Simon
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: johnb51 on July 09, 2019, 08:59:08 AM
We all love Pickering, don't we!  The ideal combination of qualities.  I even had some this year you could call "large" (not jumbo, of course).  My only issue with Pickering is that it needs full sun, but that may be true with most mango varieties.  The shady side of my tree does not produce much fruit, which is less sweet as well. 

The newbie should consider disease resistance, too, unless he's located in an ideal coastal area.
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: JulianoGS on July 09, 2019, 09:27:31 AM
Thank you guys for the replies and comments!!!
One mango tree that I have already planted was Keitt, because it is a very late season, consistent and good flavor with minimal strings.

I was thinking of Coconut Cream or Sugar Loaf mango or maybe Pina Colada.
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: gnappi on July 09, 2019, 10:01:25 AM
This year so far the flavor of the fruit from my Pickering has been underwhelming. The Glenn has gone from excellent to meh from fruits picked at the same time. The good ones are great.

My Julie seedling (Juicy Lucy) has been the best this year and right behind it the Madame Francis. Go figure.
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: achetadomestica on July 09, 2019, 10:08:26 AM
This is the time of the year when fruitscapes has a mangomania weekend and
you can sample 20+ fruits in one day. If you are located near Pine Island? I took
my family a couple years ago and everyone had a good time. My wife and 2 kids
had a different favorite mango. Taste is so subjective. You probably should make
your own decision which are your favorites?
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: Brev Grower on July 09, 2019, 11:58:13 AM
Since you asked, these would be the mango trees I would have in my yard:
 
1. Rosigold for ultra early season mango
2. Pickering or M4(productivity?) or sugar loaf(productivity?) for coconut flavor mango. (Pickering get watered down flavor with rain) Coco cream doesn't produce well for me.
3. Carrie - just one of the best flavored mangoes ever- but you should try it first.
4. Lemon zest or Orange sherbet (OS supposed to be more disease resistant) - for citrus flavored mango
5. Sweet Tart - in a league all its own
6. Maha Chanok for productive asian type mango.
7. Fruit punch - for fruit flavored mango.

And I think Keitt is the best late season mango out there with traditional flavor. These should give you something to think about but try them first if you have the opportunity. No one ever really agrees on the best mango :) There used to be a thread on the mango GOAT...I believe lemon zest and sweet tart were the top two contenders at the time.
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: Future on July 09, 2019, 12:30:08 PM
This year so far the flavor of the fruit from my Pickering has been underwhelming. The Glenn has gone from excellent to meh from fruits picked at the same time. The good ones are great.

My Julie seedling (Juicy Lucy) has been the best this year and right behind it the Madame Francis. Go figure.

How long did Juicy Lucy take to bear?
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: gnappi on July 09, 2019, 01:33:29 PM
This year so far the flavor of the fruit from my Pickering has been underwhelming. The Glenn has gone from excellent to meh from fruits picked at the same time. The good ones are great.

My Julie seedling (Juicy Lucy) has been the best this year and right behind it the Madame Francis. Go figure.

How long did Juicy Lucy take to bear?

As a 4 year old (I think) seedling I got from a friend, it was only a couple of years. I grafted cuttings from it onto a store bought mango and the two I gave away have both fruited really well in less than four years.

Lucy is not affected by anthracnose like her parent, is extremely precocious and really needs fruit to be thinned to get larger fruits. My tree has not been top pruned and she's still under 12' tall.

The first couple of years the fruit was underwhelming, but now it's very good, the one graft I did I have knowledge of fruited this year and they are exactly like Lucy, juicy, sweet, fiberless and have the distinctive Julie "proboscis" :-)

Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: Future on July 09, 2019, 05:21:37 PM
This year so far the flavor of the fruit from my Pickering has been underwhelming. The Glenn has gone from excellent to meh from fruits picked at the same time. The good ones are great.

My Julie seedling (Juicy Lucy) has been the best this year and right behind it the Madame Francis. Go figure.

How long did Juicy Lucy take to bear?

As a 4 year old (I think) seedling I got from a friend, it was only a couple of years. I grafted cuttings from it onto a store bought mango and the two I gave away have both fruited really well in less than four years.

Lucy is not affected by anthracnose like her parent, is extremely precocious and really needs fruit to be thinned to get larger fruits. My tree has not been top pruned and she's still under 12' tall.

The first couple of years the fruit was underwhelming, but now it's very good, the one graft I did I have knowledge of fruited this year and they are exactly like Lucy, juicy, sweet, fiberless and have the distinctive Julie "proboscis" :-)
 

Those are great results!

So who is Lucy?
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: Tropicdude on July 09, 2019, 05:39:19 PM
I always try to have a Pickering available,  when someone in the family or a friend asks me for a good mango tree to put in their yard,  I'll hand them a Pickering.  size, reliability, precociousness and flavor. 
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: gnappi on July 09, 2019, 10:23:08 PM
My sister's name is Lucille.
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: JulianoGS on July 10, 2019, 09:15:07 AM
Since you asked, these would be the mango trees I would have in my yard:
 
1. Rosigold for ultra early season mango
2. Pickering or M4(productivity?) or sugar loaf(productivity?) for coconut flavor mango. (Pickering get watered down flavor with rain) Coco cream doesn't produce well for me.
3. Carrie - just one of the best flavored mangoes ever- but you should try it first.
4. Lemon zest or Orange sherbet (OS supposed to be more disease resistant) - for citrus flavored mango
5. Sweet Tart - in a league all its own
6. Maha Chanok for productive asian type mango.
7. Fruit punch - for fruit flavored mango.

And I think Keitt is the best late season mango out there with traditional flavor. These should give you something to think about but try them first if you have the opportunity. No one ever really agrees on the best mango :) There used to be a thread on the mango GOAT...I believe lemon zest and sweet tart were the top two contenders at the time.

Thanks for your list! Looks really good!
I am caught between coconut cream and sugarloaf or even M4, but would like to know the productivity on these before.
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: Jani on July 10, 2019, 05:49:04 PM
This year so far the flavor of the fruit from my Pickering has been underwhelming. The Glenn has gone from excellent to meh from fruits picked at the same time. The good ones are great.

My Julie seedling (Juicy Lucy) has been the best this year and right behind it the Madame Francis. Go figure.

How long did Juicy Lucy take to bear?

As a 4 year old (I think) seedling I got from a friend, it was only a couple of years. I grafted cuttings from it onto a store bought mango and the two I gave away have both fruited really well in less than four years.

Lucy is not affected by anthracnose like her parent, is extremely precocious and really needs fruit to be thinned to get larger fruits. My tree has not been top pruned and she's still under 12' tall.

The first couple of years the fruit was underwhelming, but now it's very good, the one graft I did I have knowledge of fruited this year and they are exactly like Lucy, juicy, sweet, fiberless and have the distinctive Julie "proboscis" :-)

Very cool, could you post a pic of the fruit? Plan on selling any grafted trees at some point?
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: Das Bhut on July 11, 2019, 08:59:34 AM
1. Sugar Loaf: pineapple/coconut flavor, fairly fast growing tree with a spreading habit. Green mango, gets a little bit of yellow when it's ripe.

2. orange essence: not very disease resistant, seems to be a huge tree that doesn't like to branch laterally, fruit is similar to orange sherbert. Medium sized yellow fruit.

3. honey kiss: dwarf slow growing tree, very precocious, highly productive, highly disease resistant, essentially the perfect tree. Fruit is 8/10 traditional mango flavor, polyembryonic, small red/yellow mango that will ripen on the tree. The fruit are also very easy to peel.

those are the 3 in my yard, if I had to get more then it'd be

4. Cac: highly vigorous, probably not precocious since it's a huge tree, highly disease resistant, best Indochinese mango (that I've tried) very sweet and very acidic, kind of similar to sweet tart.

5. sweet tart: vigorous, vertical growth habit, not sure about precocity, fairly disease resistant. Fruit is small and has a strong Indochinese flavor. May have trouble flowering.

6. po pyu kalay (lemon meringue): early season, easy to tell when to pick, great citrus flavor, very consistent producer. Fruit falls off the tree and bruises easily though. Parent of Lemo

7. pickering: dwarf tree, very precocious, good coconut flavor, fairly disease resistant

but it's probably a better idea to get fruit that will ripen out of mango season like sapodillas, jackfruit, avocados, etc. than be awash in a sea of mangos
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: JulianoGS on July 11, 2019, 12:38:38 PM
1. Sugar Loaf: pineapple/coconut flavor, fairly fast growing tree with a spreading habit. Green mango, gets a little bit of yellow when it's ripe.

2. orange essence: not very disease resistant, seems to be a huge tree that doesn't like to branch laterally, fruit is similar to orange sherbert. Medium sized yellow fruit.

3. honey kiss: dwarf slow growing tree, very precocious, highly productive, highly disease resistant, essentially the perfect tree. Fruit is 8/10 traditional mango flavor, polyembryonic, small red/yellow mango that will ripen on the tree. The fruit are also very easy to peel.

those are the 3 in my yard, if I had to get more then it'd be

4. Cac: highly vigorous, probably not precocious since it's a huge tree, highly disease resistant, best Indochinese mango (that I've tried) very sweet and very acidic, kind of similar to sweet tart.

5. sweet tart: vigorous, vertical growth habit, not sure about precocity, fairly disease resistant. Fruit is small and has a strong Indochinese flavor. May have trouble flowering.

6. po pyu kalay (lemon meringue): early season, easy to tell when to pick, great citrus flavor, very consistent producer. Fruit falls off the tree and bruises easily though. Parent of Lemo

7. pickering: dwarf tree, very precocious, good coconut flavor, fairly disease resistant

but it's probably a better idea to get fruit that will ripen out of mango season like sapodillas, jackfruit, avocados, etc. than be awash in a sea of mangos

Thanks for sharing your list and flavors on the mangoes.

What is the production like for the sugar-loaf tree?
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: JulianoGS on July 12, 2019, 10:40:57 AM
I always try to have a Pickering available,  when someone in the family or a friend asks me for a good mango tree to put in their yard,  I'll hand them a Pickering.  size, reliability, precociousness and flavor.

Thanks, I am also considering a pickering tree.

Do you know if sugar loaf or M4 produces well?
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: JulianoGS on July 12, 2019, 10:42:45 AM
If it was my yard I will definitely plant a Pickering , and maybe plant 3 Trees in 1 Hole 👍

Good luck .

Ed

Pickering is on my list, how does sugar loaf or M4 fare on the fruit production?
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: WGphil on July 12, 2019, 12:00:10 PM
I live ten miles from the magic kingdom and itís very hot and muggy mid state with cold wet conditions in spring

The cotton candy has been flawless so far with no spraying

My first mangos are on it now and just waiting to ripen


Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: JulianoGS on July 12, 2019, 11:09:09 PM
I always try to have a Pickering available,  when someone in the family or a friend asks me for a good mango tree to put in their yard,  I'll hand them a Pickering.  size, reliability, precociousness and flavor.

Pickering is it an early or mid season producer?  How big is the fruit?
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: johnb51 on July 12, 2019, 11:39:06 PM
For me Pickering starts at the end of May and goes into July so it's early, but not the earliest.  I still have a few left on the tree.  The fruit is variable in size.  Some get rather large, around 2 lbs.
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: gnappi on July 13, 2019, 06:44:57 AM
I always try to have a Pickering available,  when someone in the family or a friend asks me for a good mango tree to put in their yard,  I'll hand them a Pickering.  size, reliability, precociousness and flavor.

Pickering is it an early or mid season producer?  How big is the fruit?

My pickering gave up its last fruit the first week of July, fruit is medium sized. Definitely NOT my fave mango.
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: johnb51 on July 13, 2019, 09:24:46 AM
My pickering gave up its last fruit the first week of July, fruit is medium sized. Definitely NOT my fave mango.
Does your tree get full sun?  Does your fruit get the blotchy red blush?  You need those factors to bring out the full potential of Pickering.  Otherwise the fruit will be less sweet and not as fine-flavored.  I ate one this morning that was honey-sweet and outstanding.
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: JulianoGS on July 13, 2019, 11:02:19 AM
My pickering gave up its last fruit the first week of July, fruit is medium sized. Definitely NOT my fave mango.
Does your tree get full sun?  Does your fruit get the blotchy red blush?  You need those factors to bring out the full potential of Pickering.  Otherwise the fruit will be less sweet and not as fine-flavored.  I ate one this morning that was honey-sweet and outstanding.

Ca you describe the flavors? Is it Coconuty?
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: johnb51 on July 13, 2019, 01:30:39 PM
Can you describe the flavors? Is it Coconuty?
Definitely coconutty.  I also taste peach.  When the skin get red blotches, they're at their sweetest and most flavorful.  Very juicy, too.  At their best they can be a 9.5 or 10 IMO if you like their specific flavor profile.  I don't claim to be a mango expert, but I have tasted a couple dozen varieties, including superstars like Lemon Zest and Sweet Tart.
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: roblack on July 13, 2019, 04:19:32 PM
Coconut Cream

Orange Sherbert

Sugarloaf/E4 and/or M4

Glenn

Kesar

Venus

Guava

Those should give you some great flavors, good production, and spread out harvest times.
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: johnb51 on July 13, 2019, 08:10:48 PM
Coconut Cream

Orange Sherbert

Sugarloaf/E4 and/or M4

Glenn

Kesar

Venus

Guava

Those should give you some great flavors, good production, and spread out harvest times.
Glenn and Venus as Top 7?  Really?
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: roblack on July 13, 2019, 09:32:24 PM
Not top 7 in flavor.

Glenn is on my squad for consistency and productivity, early season, often 2 crops. And they are fiberless and peachy. Very good mango to grow. I was thinking about all the trees I could replace my Glenn with, and can't see myself doing it. Its a reliable work horse, and does really well with my limestone soil down here.

Venus is a good late season mango.
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: Future on July 14, 2019, 01:29:10 PM
Not top 7 in flavor.

Glenn is on my squad for consistency and productivity, early season, often 2 crops. And they are fiberless and peachy. Very good mango to grow. I was thinking about all the trees I could replace my Glenn with, and can't see myself doing it. Its a reliable work horse, and does really well with my limestone soil down here.

Venus is a good late season mango.

I restasted Glenn after ignoring it for a while and agree.  Flavour probably under-rated against the new fangled varieties but with those other added attributes, makes sense to keep it.
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: JulianoGS on July 14, 2019, 03:07:29 PM
Coconut Cream

Orange Sherbert

Sugarloaf/E4 and/or M4

Glenn

Kesar

Venus

Guava

Those should give you some great flavors, good production, and spread out harvest times.
Glenn and Venus as Top 7?  Really?

Is not always about flavor, productivity plays a major role.

Keitt, Venus and Glenn are great choices.
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: johnb51 on July 15, 2019, 10:20:55 AM
If you want productivity and a long season, Pickering and Angie definitely fit the bill.
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: JulianoGS on July 15, 2019, 11:31:14 AM
If you want productivity and a long season, Pickering and Angie definitely fit the bill.

Thank you, that sounds good too! How about kesar mango?
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: JulianoGS on July 18, 2019, 09:29:42 PM
Narrowed it down to:

Coconut cream
Sugar loaf
Sweet tart
Pickering
Carrie
Kathy
Keitt
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: roblack on July 19, 2019, 09:08:35 AM
If you want productivity and a long season, Pickering and Angie definitely fit the bill.

Thank you, that sounds good too! How about kesar mango?

Kesar mango is awesome. One of my favs. Grows very well in FL, and is the best tasting Indian flavor mango I've had. Picked up a tree for myself and a good friend (both 3 gal) as a house warming gift less than 2 years ago. He harvested over a dozen fruits this year. Mine did not flower. Super delicious clean mangoes. A nice changeup from all the other flavors/mangoes we have been enjoying. Great texture too. The tree is pretty and the leaves look healthier than any of my other mango trees.
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: JulianoGS on July 19, 2019, 04:15:33 PM
If you want productivity and a long season, Pickering and Angie definitely fit the bill.

Thank you, that sounds good too! How about kesar mango?

Kesar mango is awesome. One of my favs. Grows very well in FL, and is the best tasting Indian flavor mango I've had. Picked up a tree for myself and a good friend (both 3 gal) as a house warming gift less than 2 years ago. He harvested over a dozen fruits this year. Mine did not flower. Super delicious clean mangoes. A nice changeup from all the other flavors/mangoes we have been enjoying. Great texture too. The tree is pretty and the leaves look healthier than any of my other mango trees.

Cool, would you say it is a rather spicy sweet mango and resinous?
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: simon_grow on July 19, 2019, 04:53:27 PM
Kesar is sweet, rich and complex with deep Piney Indian resin flavor. The the Piney turpenes are especially more noticeable near the skin. Unlike some varieties of Indian Mangos where the resin is overpowering, the overall balance of flavors and sweetness from Kesar tend to be widely appreciated by most whom I had sample the fruit.

A good Kesar will have deep orange colored flesh. Aside from Kesar, there is a newer Jumbo Kesar that may be circling around Florida. I believe Dr Ledesma has this variety but I donít know if itís fruited in Florida yet. From what Iíve read, the Jumbo Kesar tastes pretty much identical to regular Kesars but the size is much larger.

Iíve heard reports that some regular Kesars can get huge, approaching Jumbo Kesar size.

Simon
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: roblack on August 04, 2019, 02:46:19 PM
...what Simon said.

After finally tasting M4, would move Venus off my list and put M4 in its place. Wonderful tasting mango, large fruit, and seems easier and better to grow than Venus (from the accounts of others). Adding M4 to my collection. Very different from CC to me.

I'm keeping CC, Sugar Loaf, and M4 to spread out the season and add to flavor diversity. Yet to try SL, but hear they all are different despite being in the coconut flavor group.   

Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: johnb51 on August 04, 2019, 03:51:58 PM
Kesar is sweet, rich and complex with deep Piney Indian resin flavor. The the Piney turpenes are especially more noticeable near the skin. Unlike some varieties of Indian Mangos where the resin is overpowering, the overall balance of flavors and sweetness from Kesar tend to be widely appreciated by most whom I had sample the fruit.

A good Kesar will have deep orange colored flesh. Aside from Kesar, there is a newer Jumbo Kesar that may be circling around Florida. I believe Dr Ledesma has this variety but I donít know if itís fruited in Florida yet. From what Iíve read, the Jumbo Kesar tastes pretty much identical to regular Kesars but the size is much larger.

Iíve heard reports that some regular Kesars can get huge, approaching Jumbo Kesar size.

Simon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd_3xVMWiW0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd_3xVMWiW0)
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: WGphil on August 05, 2019, 09:32:07 AM
Picked my last Phoenix

I had all but decided to cull it due to its problems with pm

It also gets stinky foot taste and smell when left to over ripen. Firm mango that will be late if you wait till it softenes

Through all that it made my top five this year

Wonderfully complex firm and rich with everything from floral to citrus

So it stays
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: JulianoGS on August 05, 2019, 03:01:08 PM
Had a cotton candy and it was sugarlicious!
Maybe I should add M4, Cotton candy and  Jumbo Kesar to the list, making it a Top 10?

                       List based on taste, productivity and growth habit.

Coconut cream
Sugar loaf
Sweet tart
Pickering
Carrie
Kathy
Keitt
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: Squam256 on August 05, 2019, 03:05:28 PM
The budwood for our ďJumbo KesarĒ was sourced from Fairchild. It is just a regular Kesar. Not sure if or where the real Jumbo Kesar exists in Florida at this point
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: Brev Grower on August 05, 2019, 05:39:15 PM
Had a cotton candy and it was sugarlicious!
Maybe I should add M4, Cotton candy and  Jumbo Kesar to the list, making it a Top 10?

                       List based on taste, productivity and growth habit.

Coconut cream
Sugar loaf
Sweet tart
Pickering
Carrie
Kathy
Keitt

I might be wary of coconut cream and productivity. Some people have issues with disease and no fruit (me). I may end up topworking the tree. i am in a very humid environment though. Planted right by a lake.
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: simon_grow on August 05, 2019, 06:23:03 PM
Had a cotton candy and it was sugarlicious!
Maybe I should add M4, Cotton candy and  Jumbo Kesar to the list, making it a Top 10?

                       List based on taste, productivity and growth habit.

Coconut cream
Sugar loaf
Sweet tart
Pickering
Carrie
Kathy
Keitt

Was there any other taste profile you can recall besides besides the sweetness? Was there any acid balance or tropical mango flavor that you recall? I like sweet Mangos but only if thereís some complexity or acid balance to balance out all the sugar.

Maha Chanok is another good choice if you want a smaller tree that is pretty disease resistant and reliable in bearing. It is a good Mango, not in my top 20 but some people rate it very high. I used to grow it but recently removed it because it is a slow grower for me in SoCal.

Simon
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: Tropicdude on August 05, 2019, 11:02:06 PM
The budwood for our ďJumbo KesarĒ was sourced from Fairchild. It is just a regular Kesar. Not sure if or where the real Jumbo Kesar exists in Florida at this point


I was going to say something about that not looking like a Jumbo Kesar,   here is a link of a video I recorded a few years ago,  when Ledesma was visiting a mango project in the DR.  on this farm they had both the regular and jumbo type Kesar,  all scions were brought in directly from India ( a few thousand )  Jumbo Kesar are about 50-100% bigger than the regular ones,  but other than size, are identical in flavor. 

http://youtu.be/JCnW56M77Yw?t=960 (http://youtu.be/JCnW56M77Yw?t=960)
Title: Re: What would be your top 7 mangos for Florida?
Post by: JulianoGS on August 06, 2019, 01:41:33 PM

I might be wary of coconut cream and productivity. Some people have issues with disease and no fruit (me). I may end up topworking the tree. i am in a very humid environment though. Planted right by a lake.

Cool, is the coconut tree planted on a small hill away from the water? Or at water level?