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Title: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: edzone9 on July 28, 2019, 11:01:52 AM
Looks like another one is pushing using the Rubber band and tie wire method
Will update .

Ed
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Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: sc4001992 on July 28, 2019, 02:24:39 PM
That's a clever idea !
Looks good.
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: Rex Begonias on July 28, 2019, 03:13:03 PM
This is to keep the graft union super snug?  That the advantage?
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: edzone9 on July 28, 2019, 04:13:46 PM
Yes no slippage ! This tree has 4 successful Graft Using The Same Method 👍

Ed
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: Rex Begonias on July 28, 2019, 05:03:58 PM
Yes no slippage ! This tree has 4 successful Graft Using The Same Method 👍

Ed

Whoa, nice!  Is it as simple as it seems?  Just wind a rubber band tight then zip tie it?
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: edzone9 on July 28, 2019, 07:15:22 PM
Yeap , when you wrap the Rubber band hold the tension down with your finger, with the other hand loop the TW around the RB keep the tension locked in 👍donít over tighten.

The Rubber band also helps to protect the scion from the plastic TW.
I call it the RBTW method 😉

Ed
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: HIfarm on July 29, 2019, 01:23:02 PM
This looks pretty interesting.  Is the graft itself a cleft?  It seems like the tie wrap would present some problems if left on too long, how long do you typically leave it on? 

Thanks,
John
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: edzone9 on July 29, 2019, 01:24:56 PM
Itís a cleft , the Tie Wire comes off in 3 weeks .

Ed
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: HIfarm on July 29, 2019, 10:58:34 PM
Thanks, Ed.  I'll have to give it a try.  I sometimes feel like I need 3 hands when trying to secure a rubber band on a graft, this method should make it easier & secure the graft in place much better.

John
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: edzone9 on July 30, 2019, 08:24:05 AM
Good luck, I like experimenting with various methods and stick to the one that works best for me , so far the RBTW method is working well for me, and Iím a newbie in the grafting world 😉

Ed
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: mangomanic12 on July 30, 2019, 12:35:41 PM
Ed has a good system . For those who do not want to use the ties. After i wrap the scion with the Rubber band , i wrap the rubber band with Buddy Tape ( thicker material than parafilm)which protects the rubber band from drying out/ becoming frayed and loose and this protects it enough while the graft takes or not.
Mike
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: edzone9 on July 30, 2019, 03:58:03 PM
Thank you !
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: Triphal on July 30, 2019, 09:18:06 PM
An year ago TFF member 'Shaneatwell' mentioned about rubber bands he uses while grafting avocados.
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: edzone9 on July 30, 2019, 09:28:22 PM
Iv seen rubber bands used in grafting many times, but not wit( the zip tie.

Ed
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: spaugh on July 30, 2019, 11:42:38 PM
Flagging tape from home Depot also works great to tighten up graft unions over the grafting tape.  It's more stretchy than tree tape but less stretchy than grafting tape. 
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: Mango_Seed on July 31, 2019, 01:02:41 AM
Maybe wrapping the graft with thick copper wire like a bonsai tree would work better than tie wraps?
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: edzone9 on August 02, 2019, 07:31:21 PM
Just grafted Guava Mango onto my multigrafted Project tree ..


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Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: hawkfish007 on August 02, 2019, 10:15:35 PM
Just grafted Guava Mango onto my multigrafted Project tree ..


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Great job Ed. May I ask where are you getting your scions from? I emailed tropicalacres for availability last week but havenít heard anything back yet.
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: simon_grow on August 02, 2019, 11:25:11 PM
Just grafted Guava Mango onto my multigrafted Project tree ..


(https://i.postimg.cc/Z9dZpx33/9-C6-CF527-59-E6-4-F7-B-8574-52935-C15-D171.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z9dZpx33)

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Great job Ed. May I ask where are you getting your scions from? I emailed tropicalacres for availability last week but havenít heard anything back yet.

You have to email them what you want and they will reply back with the availability of those varieties. With all the varieties they have, it will be a lot of work replying back to each customers request of available scions on any given day as they have so many different varieties and scions from each variety may or may not be in the proper stage of growth on any given day.

Simon
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: hawkfish007 on August 03, 2019, 12:23:13 AM
Thatís what I thought, I purchased from tropicalacres in the past. I am hoping someone will contact me back with my scion inquiry soon. Donít want to loose whatever limited prime grafting days left here in SoCal.
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: edzone9 on August 03, 2019, 09:14:08 AM
Hawk Iím using the scions from my own trees ..

Ed
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: zands on August 03, 2019, 10:54:56 AM
Looks like another one is pushing using the Rubber band and tie wire method
Will update .

Ed

What gauge wire are you talking about. Bell wire? Bare wire? Covered wire? At my local Home Depot near me I see many gauges copper wire I can buy by the foot. Covered and bare.
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: cmichael258 on August 03, 2019, 10:59:12 AM
I have had good luck using the green stretch tie tape.

(https://i.postimg.cc/xJ0MkdJr/Tie-Tape.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJ0MkdJr)
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: edzone9 on August 03, 2019, 11:12:22 AM
Looks like another one is pushing using the Rubber band and tie wire method
Will update .

Ed

What gauge wire are you talking about. Bell wire? Bare wire? Covered wire? At my local Home Depot near me I see many gauges copper wire I can buy by the foot. Covered and bare.

Zands itís plastic ties see pic
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Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: edzone9 on August 03, 2019, 11:13:46 AM
I have had good luck using the green stretch tie tape.

(https://i.postimg.cc/xJ0MkdJr/Tie-Tape.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJ0MkdJr)

Yes I use the green nursery tape for My hibiscus grafting , But The birds are attracted to the green tape
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: cmichael258 on August 03, 2019, 01:06:47 PM
I have had good luck using the green stretch tie tape.

(https://i.postimg.cc/xJ0MkdJr/Tie-Tape.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJ0MkdJr)

Yes I use the green nursery tape for My hibiscus grafting , But The birds are attracted to the green tape

I make sure to trim the loose ends so birds don't mistake them for worms or caterpillars or to use for nest building.
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: zands on August 14, 2019, 12:51:16 PM
Looks like another one is pushing using the Rubber band and tie wire method
Will update .

Ed

What gauge wire are you talking about. Bell wire? Bare wire? Covered wire? At my local Home Depot near me I see many gauges copper wire I can buy by the foot. Covered and bare.

Zands itís plastic ties see pic
(https://i.postimg.cc/qNY4N5t4/A7177-B57-E525-4-C53-B59-E-552893-EC8-AF1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qNY4N5t4)

Thanks...I guess it works but plastic ties have a limited number of notches to tighten them up..... Maybe you have some that work "notchless".....
Title: Re: Looks like another successful Mango Graft Using The Tie Wire Method
Post by: edzone9 on August 14, 2019, 02:37:11 PM
With the thick rubber band wrapped , then the zip tie fits snug and maintains the pressure , the notes on the ZT are very fine no slagging 👍