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Title: Pitangatuba varieties
Post by: buddy roo on October 11, 2019, 02:50:16 AM
Hi all, I have what seems to be 2 varieties of Pitangatuba ( eugenia  neonitida ) AKA star cherry. 1 is bright yellow round firm flesh and free stone meaning the flesh does not cling to the seed,  the other is pale yellow green very oblong with  soft and very fragrant flesh, smells like passion fruit. so I would like to know if there are any named varieties ??  Regards   Patrick
Title: Re: Pitangatuba varieties
Post by: Kevin Jones on October 11, 2019, 06:35:09 AM
I have one of the freestone types as well.
The seed rattles around in the fruit when shaken.

Kevin
(https://i.postimg.cc/FfW1RsSB/UNADJUSTEDNONRAW-thumb-5f7c.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FfW1RsSB)
Title: Re: Pitangatuba varieties
Post by: buddy roo on October 11, 2019, 11:16:23 AM
I have one of the freestone types as well.
The seed rattles around in the fruit when shaken.

Kevin
(https://i.postimg.cc/FfW1RsSB/UNADJUSTEDNONRAW-thumb-5f7c.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FfW1RsSB)
yes 1 of mine is just like that , and the other is totally different, my question is  (1) are there any named varieties ?  (2) how many named varieties are there.
Title: Re: Pitangatuba varieties
Post by: azorean on October 11, 2019, 11:22:37 AM
As far as I know there are no named varieties, but indeed a lot of genetic variability. I have yet to try one fruit that tastes well, but I heard from other forum members who have very tasty fruits. I guess the solution is to graft these good ones.
Title: Re: Pitangatuba varieties
Post by: Kevin Jones on October 11, 2019, 11:46:44 AM
It's not so much the taste.  it's the sourness factor.
I can eat one and enjoy it... but it would be difficult to eat a whole bowl of them in a sitting.

(https://i.postimg.cc/MnyvMjNX/Pitangatuba-Buds-01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MnyvMjNX)
(https://i.postimg.cc/4KsnzxRP/Pitangatuba-Buds-02.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4KsnzxRP)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ppvNVhfs/UNADJUSTEDNONRAW-thumb-5dc0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ppvNVhfs)

They bloomed up a storm this year too.

Kevin



Title: Re: Pitangatuba varieties
Post by: palologrower on October 11, 2019, 12:29:44 PM
I have at least 4-5 “varieties” based just on foliage appearance.  Some of them starting to fruit. 
Title: Re: Pitangatuba varieties
Post by: buddy roo on October 11, 2019, 12:54:11 PM
maybe a good project for a younger person with good photo taking skills to start collecting and trying to id. happy to share some of my material
Title: Re: Pitangatuba varieties
Post by: palologrower on October 11, 2019, 02:53:06 PM
maybe a good project for a younger person with good photo taking skills to start collecting and trying to id. happy to share some of my material

I told my son the same thing...just with hybridizing kasturi with a good mango variety. Good thing he’s 6 in couple months.
Title: Re: Pitangatuba varieties
Post by: pineislander on October 11, 2019, 04:19:34 PM
I was amazed two weeks ago by eating a miracle fruit and then one of extreme sour variety Starfruit, one of the best tasting starfruit I've ever had. No way could I stand one otherwise. I can't wait to do it with Pitangatuba.
Title: Re: Pitangatuba varieties
Post by: Mango Stein on October 13, 2019, 04:34:54 AM
Slightly off topic: Can pitangatuba be pruned to a bushy 1m tall hedge without drastically affecting fruit production long term?
Title: Re: Pitangatuba varieties
Post by: pineislander on October 13, 2019, 07:38:08 AM
This video show they eventually get quite large. As planting increases eventually someone will find a sweet variety.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiOJFrsw8Ek (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiOJFrsw8Ek)

It's usually interesting to look at the natural habitat where a fruit occurs. Pitangatuba is from the Restinga area of northeast Brazil, coastal, sandy, relatively infertile and acidic, medium to fairly low scrubby vegetation. Here is a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEe3as-hYSA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEe3as-hYSA)

Title: Re: Pitangatuba varieties
Post by: palologrower on October 13, 2019, 08:41:40 AM
This video show they eventually get quite large. As planting increases eventually someone will find a sweet variety.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiOJFrsw8Ek (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiOJFrsw8Ek)

It's usually interesting to look at the natural habitat where a fruit occurs. Pitangatuba is from the Restinga area of northeast Brazil, coastal, sandy, relatively infertile and acidic, medium to fairly low scrubby vegetation. Here is a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEe3as-hYSA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEe3as-hYSA)

Damn that was a big fruit
Title: Re: Pitangatuba varieties
Post by: buddy roo on October 13, 2019, 11:02:12 AM
I have at least 4-5 “varieties” based just on foliage appearance.  Some of them starting to fruit.
can you share photos of these showing the difference ??also are they all from different sources ?
Title: Re: Pitangatuba varieties
Post by: eduardo_98 on October 13, 2019, 12:29:02 PM
This topic may help
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=18110.0 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=18110.0)
Title: Re: Pitangatuba varieties
Post by: palologrower on October 14, 2019, 04:26:51 PM
I have at least 4-5 “varieties” based just on foliage appearance.  Some of them starting to fruit.
can you share photos of these showing the difference ??also are they all from different sources ?
Sure let me get some photos together.

Title: Re: Pitangatuba varieties
Post by: palologrower on November 10, 2019, 03:44:17 PM
I have at least 4-5 “varieties” based just on foliage appearance.  Some of them starting to fruit.
can you share photos of these showing the difference ??also are they all from different sources ?

Sorry been busy but here’s what I collected so far.  Small variations here and there.  Will try to update with fruits and other analysis etc if possible
(https://i.postimg.cc/5X4LrwWG/13506241-57-C5-495-F-8756-119-D440-E0-C5-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5X4LrwWG)

(https://i.postimg.cc/sGCZ4WJT/351-E5499-2-AB1-4-B0-E-B869-E4742-E5539-EC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sGCZ4WJT)

(https://i.postimg.cc/DWzQS1Cs/3-BCB0-D40-B301-4380-99-B3-8-F777-EE1-D34-D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DWzQS1Cs)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Ff1crNRV/503401-CE-C34-F-4114-8-AE0-3-EBCDEDBBAE8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Ff1crNRV)

(https://i.postimg.cc/0zVD1b8N/A2-D2-F0-A5-0249-46-BC-9262-361-BA5882600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0zVD1b8N)

(https://i.postimg.cc/gXZZhs3w/C01-B7-D82-E0-D9-487-C-A3-FD-BA8-C01494585.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXZZhs3w)

(https://i.postimg.cc/7J1JsLsw/FE6503-FC-34-C9-4-A33-ABE1-6-B82-C4-CD8823.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7J1JsLsw)
Title: Re: Pitangatuba varieties
Post by: Mike T on November 10, 2019, 11:00:16 PM
I retained one of 5 I had planted and its about 8 feet tall now and pumps out the fruit like a machine. Fruit vary in shape and size as taste through the seasons.
Title: Re: Pitangatuba varieties
Post by: palologrower on November 13, 2019, 04:40:22 AM
I retained one of 5 I had planted and its about 8 feet tall now and pumps out the fruit like a machine. Fruit vary in shape and size as taste through the seasons.

Love to see what kind of fruit it produces