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Title: Cherimoya, best tasting, low seed count, can survive in zone 9b
Post by: harana on February 11, 2020, 05:13:40 PM
I have been trying to grow Cherimoya from seeds for a few years in Sacramento California area but no luck.  The summer growth is good but plants die in winter. I did not provide any protection and temperature got as low as 26F some nights. I guess I needed to plant them in pots and give protection in winter by moving them inside or covering with blankets or Christmas lights.
After reading several posts it looks like that Pierce, El Bumpo, Orton and Dream are the best tasting varieties. Would these varieties survive and fruit in my area? Do they have high seed count in them?
Title: Re: Cherimoya, best tasting, low seed count, can survive in zone 9b
Post by: shpaz on February 11, 2020, 11:31:32 PM
Dream is an Atemoya and not a Cherimoya I believe.
Title: Re: Cherimoya, best tasting, low seed count, can survive in zone 9b
Post by: pinkturtle on February 12, 2020, 12:27:37 AM
I take my annona trees to the garage if it is below 50F.  Specially my soursop.  22F is way to cold for them.
Title: Re: Cherimoya, best tasting, low seed count, can survive in zone 9b
Post by: SoftwareMaven on February 12, 2020, 07:29:59 AM
Do you grow annona squamosa aka sugar apple? My in-laws have them and they survived 27f in 2017 with just leaf damage. I know it's not a Cherimoya but a good substitute.
Title: Re: Cherimoya, best tasting, low seed count, can survive in zone 9b
Post by: harana on February 12, 2020, 12:13:42 PM
I take my annona trees to the garage if it is below 50F.  Specially my soursop.  22F is way to cold for them.
Good to know. Soursop is very sensitive to cold but I thought Cherimoya is not that sensitive to cold.
Title: Re: Cherimoya, best tasting, low seed count, can survive in zone 9b
Post by: harana on February 12, 2020, 12:16:16 PM
Do you grow annona squamosa aka sugar apple? My in-laws have them and they survived 27f in 2017 with just leaf damage. I know it's not a Cherimoya but a good substitute.

I am not very fond of sugar apple taste. I would like to grow Cherimoya if possible.
Title: Re: Cherimoya, best tasting, low seed count, can survive in zone 9b
Post by: harana on February 12, 2020, 12:18:48 PM
Dream is an Atemoya and not a Cherimoya I believe.
I have nothing against Atemoya. I heard Dream taste real good and like a Cherimoya.
Does anyone sell  Dream trees in California?
Title: Re: Cherimoya, best tasting, low seed count, can survive in zone 9b
Post by: FruitFool on February 12, 2020, 09:05:33 PM
Get scions from this forum members and graft onto cherimoya rootstock.

-FruitFool
Title: Re: Cherimoya, best tasting, low seed count, can survive in zone 9b
Post by: Bush2Beach on February 13, 2020, 12:44:57 PM
Dream or any atemoya  is not good for marginal growing zones.
In Sac try HoneyHart or Chaffey .
My White’s split and dropped from the weather in December.
The right cultivar will make all the difference for you.
Try planting a white sapote , they love that Sac heat and can take cold/wind better.
Title: Re: Cherimoya, best tasting, low seed count, can survive in zone 9b
Post by: waxy on February 13, 2020, 04:09:13 PM
I've had more luck growing atemoyas than cherimoyas here.
If it's a cherimoya, I have it on an atemoya rootstock.
Dr. White, Booth and Honey Heart grow well for me here.

They're more resistant to rot with the amount of rain and overcast we get here.
IIamas don't grow well here, even on atemoya rootstock.
Rollinia, very cold hardy here for some reason.
Soursop, haven't had any luck unless they're grown from seed or on atemoya rootstock.
I have several sugar apples, they are very cold hardy for some reason.
Frost does damage their leaves, but they bounce back very well.
Title: Re: Cherimoya, best tasting, low seed count, can survive in zone 9b
Post by: harana on February 14, 2020, 02:28:54 PM
Dream or any atemoya  is not good for marginal growing zones.
In Sac try HoneyHart or Chaffey .
My White’s split and dropped from the weather in December.
The right cultivar will make all the difference for you.
Try planting a white sapote , they love that Sac heat and can take cold/wind better.
Good information. Thank you. How are HoneyHart and Chaffey taste wise? Are they close to Pierce?
Where can I get grafted plants? If not plants then where can I get rootstock and scions? I know they are very easy to graft.
Title: Re: Cherimoya, best tasting, low seed count, can survive in zone 9b
Post by: harana on February 14, 2020, 02:35:17 PM
I've had more luck growing atemoyas than cherimoyas here.
If it's a cherimoya, I have it on an atemoya rootstock.
Dr. White, Booth and Honey Heart grow well for me here.

They're more resistant to rot with the amount of rain and overcast we get here.
IIamas don't grow well here, even on atemoya rootstock.
Rollinia, very cold hardy here for some reason.
Soursop, haven't had any luck unless they're grown from seed or on atemoya rootstock.
I have several sugar apples, they are very cold hardy for some reason.
Frost does damage their leaves, but they bounce back very well.
That is interesting information. I had not heard that before. How are Dr. White, Booth and Honey Heart taste wise? I like sweeter Cherimoyas more.
Title: Re: Cherimoya, best tasting, low seed count, can survive in zone 9b
Post by: RodneyS on February 14, 2020, 02:57:53 PM
Home Depot & Lowes sell Honeyharts.  Try calling to see if they have them in stock