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Title: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: Mr. Clean on April 07, 2012, 01:20:59 AM
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Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: fruitlovers on April 07, 2012, 01:42:58 AM
Over here best late season mangos are
1) Rapoza
2) Brook's Late
3) Zill's Late

Here is a photo of some Rapozas to wet your appetite:
(http://fruitlovers.com/Gallery1/RapozaMango.jpg)
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: Felipe on April 07, 2012, 04:43:21 AM
Keitt is one of the latest over here..
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: pj1881 (Patrick) on April 07, 2012, 06:41:52 AM
Coconut Cream is Mid Season

Harvest Moon is Mid-Late Season

Lemon Zest is Mid Season

Some Late Varieties are Beverly, Keitt, Kent, Lancetilla, Neelam
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: bsbullie on April 07, 2012, 07:47:20 AM
Imagine having a fresh mango in December.  I am think adding a late season mango to my yard to extend the mango season.  I currently have Carrie (early), NDM (early), coconut cream (unknown), Lemon Zest (unknown), mahachanok (mid season).  I have space to add more trees.  What do you recommend for a late season mango (I want sweet, fiberless and disease resistant)?  I'm thinking of getting a Choc Anon, which bears in November-January. [url]http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/mango/choc-anon-mango.shtml[/url] ([url]http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/mango/choc-anon-mango.shtml[/url]) Comments or suggestions for LATE season mangos varieties? [url]http://www.rfvcbroward.org/mangos.html[/url] ([url]http://www.rfvcbroward.org/mangos.html[/url])

Choc Anon does have the ability to produce a second crop in November/December but it is not guaranteed.  It is also not what I, or most who have had it, a very good mango (and it does seem to have a little fiber).  A lot would be controlled by the weather, not just the weather in November/December but the weather in the beginning of the year which will ultimately affect the timing of mango season in general.

NDM is not a true early season, more like late early to mid, and again, WHEN it is "ready" does not depend on the actual month but the specific years season as controlled/dictated by the weather.

Neelam is usually one of the latest mangoes here.  To me, it has very good and sometimes excellent flavor though not everyone agrees.  The fruit is small and tends to be a stronger tasting mango (not from resin but just the actual flavor of the flesh).  Since you are asking for opinions, Lancetilla is what I would consider a novelty mango due to its size.  Its flavor is nothing to write home about.  I prefer Kent over Keitt and Beverly.   These three are all good to very good with a nice balance of sub acid and sweet.  If you are looking for the sweetest of the late season, it would be Neelam.
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: bsbullie on April 07, 2012, 07:48:05 AM
Coconut Cream is Mid Season

Harvest Moon is Mid-Late Season

Lemon Zest is Mid Season

Some Late Varieties are Beverly, Keitt, Kent, Lancetilla, Neelam
Not sure I would classify Harvest Moon as late season.
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: pj1881 (Patrick) on April 07, 2012, 08:09:17 AM
Coconut Cream is Mid Season

Harvest Moon is Mid-Late Season

Lemon Zest is Mid Season

Some Late Varieties are Beverly, Keitt, Kent, Lancetilla, Neelam
Not sure I would classify Harvest Moon as late season.


I honestly copied and pasted these from Zills information..
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: bsbullie on April 07, 2012, 08:13:39 AM
Coconut Cream is Mid Season

Harvest Moon is Mid-Late Season

Lemon Zest is Mid Season

Some Late Varieties are Beverly, Keitt, Kent, Lancetilla, Neelam
Not sure I would classify Harvest Moon as late season.


I honestly copied and pasted these from Zills information..
Obviously the ones I have had ans seen were all grown by Zills, but they were not in late season.  Now of course, a lot goes back to what I said about the seasons being highly affected by the weather.
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: HMHausman on April 07, 2012, 08:15:05 AM
Hmmmm.......I am a relative few minutes late to this party......and just about everythhing that I would have said, has been said. I would only reiterate the thoughts on Choc Anon as not being an off season bearer at my house.  I would also give some additonal kudos to Beverly on the flavor issue....but that is just my preference when compared to Keitt and Kent.  Neelam is usually the very latest mango in my yard, this year, for some reason, set a very, very light crop.  That is not the norm.

Harry
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: bsbullie on April 07, 2012, 08:21:02 AM
Rereading your original post, I would add that Mahachanok's harvest season actually stretched through the entire early/mid/late scheme.  I would say from late early to early late.
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: mangomandan on April 07, 2012, 08:42:19 AM
In theory Keitts can hang on your tree into November.  In practice (at least when I had a Keitt) stuff seems to happen to the late hanging fruit. Injuries from birds or ?????? may cause them to spoil. They may disappear due to four-legged or two-legged creatures.
Perhaps bagging a few of the late fruit would be a good experiment, to see if it protects them and saves them for you.
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: phantomcrab on April 07, 2012, 09:08:21 AM
Keitt was the variety used in a late ripening mango research program in CA.
http://articles.latimes.com/1991-11-14/food/fo-1637_1_coachella-valley (http://articles.latimes.com/1991-11-14/food/fo-1637_1_coachella-valley)
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: Squam256 on April 07, 2012, 06:00:53 PM
Beverly is easily one of the most under-rated late-season mangoes. Its productive, fungus resistant, and quite flavorful.

Some of the late season (mangoes ripening from late-July onward) varieties commonly available in Florida:

Kent (July-Aug)
Beverly (July-Aug)
Gold Nugget (July-Aug)
Valencia Pride (Aug)
Springfels (July-Aug)
Palmer (Aug-Sept)
Lancetilla (Aug-Sept)
Keitt (Aug-Oct)
Neelam (Sept-October)

Of those, I would recommend Beverly, Kent, Valencia Pride, Palmer, and Keitt.

Chok Anon is a mediocre mango that will sometimes set off-season fruit. NDM will do this also sometimes though and is light-years ahead in the flavor category. Some other SE Asian cultivars will do this as well. Almost all are better than Chok Anon.


Oscar, those are some pretty looking fruit. Looks like Rapoza inherited some good genes from its reported parent (Irwin).
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: zands on April 07, 2012, 06:29:40 PM
I have a Zill Neelam via Jeff Hagen so I like all the comments here. Got is last year in 7 gallon size. It is doing well despite powdery mildew early on, on the panicles. I will get some fruits from it maybe 6-14 is my guess. I have a Keitt but from all I read read Neelam is a better late season mango. Have a Gold (aka Golden) Nugget mango for late season too.






Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: MangoFang on April 07, 2012, 07:28:53 PM
...my experience so far has been KEITT by a long shot, where I live in SoCal.  THey really do hang on the tree a Looooooooong time. The last one I had last year was on Thanksgiving, and I picked that while it was still green a couple weeks before that....and I think I first one was in late Sept.....for me this is such an ideal mango for season spreading......

ANd so sweetly complex and fiberless.....mmm.......mmm.....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


Fang
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: JF on April 07, 2012, 07:34:56 PM
...my experience so far has been KEITT by a long shot, where I live in SoCal.  THey really do hang on the tree a Looooooooong time. The last one I had last year was on Thanksgiving, and I picked that while it was still green a couple weeks before that....and I think I first one was in late Sept.....for me this is such an ideal mango for season spreading......

ANd so sweetly complex and fiberless.....mmm.......mmm.....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm



You are right MangoDog. I had my first keitt in Oct. and the other one around thanksgiving.My Mallika flowers twice in my area, In early Feb and late July. I had my last Malika on Christmas day.
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: Guanabanus on April 07, 2012, 09:17:33 PM
Those 'Rapoza' look wonderful--- I am not familiar with that variety.

'Zill Late' is a beautifully colored fruit and can be very good--- when it doesn't get internal breakdown.  Make sure it gets enough Calcium and not much Nitrogen during fruit season.

Do you like 'BrooksLate'?  It is very late, very productive, disease resistant, and good for pickles, I guess.  It is one of the few mangoes I turn up my nose at.
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: fruitlovers on April 08, 2012, 03:15:04 AM
Those 'Rapoza' look wonderful--- I am not familiar with that variety.

'Zill Late' is a beautifully colored fruit and can be very good--- when it doesn't get internal breakdown.  Make sure it gets enough Calcium and not much Nitrogen during fruit season.

Do you like 'BrooksLate'?  It is very late, very productive, disease resistant, and good for pickles, I guess.  It is one of the few mangoes I turn up my nose at.

The Brook's Late mangos i've had here have been very nice. Wonder if it's possible they taste different in our climate/soil? Definitely wouldn't pass them up or pickle them.
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: Mr. Clean on April 09, 2012, 06:00:53 PM
Thank you for all of the responses.
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: natsgarden123 on April 09, 2012, 08:59:21 PM
Beverly is easily one of the most under-rated late-season mangoes. Its productive, fungus resistant, and quite flavorful.

Some of the late season (mangoes ripening from late-July onward) varieties commonly available in Florida:

Kent (July-Aug)
Beverly (July-Aug)
Gold Nugget (July-Aug)
Valencia Pride (Aug)
Springfels (July-Aug)
Palmer (Aug-Sept)
Lancetilla (Aug-Sept)
Keitt (Aug-Oct)
Neelam (Sept-October)

Of those, I would recommend Beverly, Kent, Valencia Pride, Palmer, and Keitt.

Chok Anon is a mediocre mango that will sometimes set off-season fruit. NDM will do this also sometimes though and is light-years ahead in the flavor category. Some other SE Asian cultivars will do this as well. Almost all are better than Chok Anon.


Oscar, those are some pretty looking fruit. Looks like Rapoza inherited some good genes from its reported parent (Irwin).


Valencia Pride is a delicious Mango- Baileys Marvel is also an August fruiting mango...which I think is wonderful

Beverly-- http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/mango/beverly-mango.shtml (http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/mango/beverly-mango.shtml)

Beverly - not a pretty mango but...any people growing this?



Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: bsbullie on April 09, 2012, 09:03:18 PM
Beverly is easily one of the most under-rated late-season mangoes. Its productive, fungus resistant, and quite flavorful.

Some of the late season (mangoes ripening from late-July onward) varieties commonly available in Florida:

Kent (July-Aug)
Beverly (July-Aug)
Gold Nugget (July-Aug)
Valencia Pride (Aug)
Springfels (July-Aug)
Palmer (Aug-Sept)
Lancetilla (Aug-Sept)
Keitt (Aug-Oct)
Neelam (Sept-October)

Of those, I would recommend Beverly, Kent, Valencia Pride, Palmer, and Keitt.

Chok Anon is a mediocre mango that will sometimes set off-season fruit. NDM will do this also sometimes though and is light-years ahead in the flavor category. Some other SE Asian cultivars will do this as well. Almost all are better than Chok Anon.


Oscar, those are some pretty looking fruit. Looks like Rapoza inherited some good genes from its reported parent (Irwin).


Valencia Pride is a delicious Mango- Baileys Marvel is also an August fruiting mango...which I think is wonderful

Beverly-- [url]http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/mango/beverly-mango.shtml[/url] ([url]http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/mango/beverly-mango.shtml[/url])

Beverly - not a pretty mango but...any people growing this?

Baily's Marvel is a mid-season mango, July, not August.  I have even seen them in June in certain years.
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: natsgarden123 on April 09, 2012, 09:14:59 PM
Beverly is easily one of the most under-rated late-season mangoes. Its productive, fungus resistant, and quite flavorful.

Some of the late season (mangoes ripening from late-July onward) varieties commonly available in Florida:

Kent (July-Aug)
Beverly (July-Aug)
Gold Nugget (July-Aug)
Valencia Pride (Aug)
Springfels (July-Aug)
Palmer (Aug-Sept)
Lancetilla (Aug-Sept)
Keitt (Aug-Oct)
Neelam (Sept-October)

Of those, I would recommend Beverly, Kent, Valencia Pride, Palmer, and Keitt.

Chok Anon is a mediocre mango that will sometimes set off-season fruit. NDM will do this also sometimes though and is light-years ahead in the flavor category. Some other SE Asian cultivars will do this as well. Almost all are better than Chok Anon.


Oscar, those are some pretty looking fruit. Looks like Rapoza inherited some good genes from its reported parent (Irwin).


Valencia Pride is a delicious Mango- Baileys Marvel is also an August fruiting mango...which I think is wonderful

Beverly-- [url]http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/mango/beverly-mango.shtml[/url] ([url]http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/mango/beverly-mango.shtml[/url])

Beverly - not a pretty mango but...any people growing this?

Baily's Marvel is a mid-season mango, July, not August.  I have even seen them in June in certain years.


IS that all you have to say about my favorite mango?   :P
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: bsbullie on April 09, 2012, 09:20:26 PM
Beverly is easily one of the most under-rated late-season mangoes. Its productive, fungus resistant, and quite flavorful.

Some of the late season (mangoes ripening from late-July onward) varieties commonly available in Florida:

Kent (July-Aug)
Beverly (July-Aug)
Gold Nugget (July-Aug)
Valencia Pride (Aug)
Springfels (July-Aug)
Palmer (Aug-Sept)
Lancetilla (Aug-Sept)
Keitt (Aug-Oct)
Neelam (Sept-October)

Of those, I would recommend Beverly, Kent, Valencia Pride, Palmer, and Keitt.

Chok Anon is a mediocre mango that will sometimes set off-season fruit. NDM will do this also sometimes though and is light-years ahead in the flavor category. Some other SE Asian cultivars will do this as well. Almost all are better than Chok Anon.


Oscar, those are some pretty looking fruit. Looks like Rapoza inherited some good genes from its reported parent (Irwin).


Valencia Pride is a delicious Mango- Baileys Marvel is also an August fruiting mango...which I think is wonderful

Beverly-- [url]http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/mango/beverly-mango.shtml[/url] ([url]http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/mango/beverly-mango.shtml[/url])

Beverly - not a pretty mango but...any people growing this?

Baily's Marvel is a mid-season mango, July, not August.  I have even seen them in June in certain years.


IS that all you have to say about my favorite mango?   :P

mmmmmmmmmmmmm...yup :)
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: Tomas on November 25, 2012, 09:25:18 PM
Hi,

Just ate a fresh Choc-Anon mango today. I wouldn't call it an bad-tasting mango. It actually has a nice lingering sweet citrus taste. It may not be a top-tier mango but giving harvest in the winter makes up for that and I could gladly eat a bunch of them. I am certainly going have a Choc-Anon mango tree.

Tomas
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: BMc on November 25, 2012, 09:47:46 PM
If you prune the flower stalks on a Keitt, would you get a new flush 3 weeks later and fruit harvest delayed by around a month? I know it works on early varieties that flower when the conditions arent right - you can chop the flowers before the fruit forms and out pops a new flower flush a few weeks later when the conditions should be better...
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: red durian on November 25, 2012, 10:04:11 PM
Keitt is one of the latest over here..
Keitt was the last of 20 or so varieties in Cayo, Belize in 2000, producing the final mango of the season on Oct 15. 
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: MangoFang on November 26, 2012, 09:29:07 PM
BMC - I've had that same purposeful idea of chopping off the flowers to delay flowering/fruiting -
have you tried that before?  I mean if you found out you had too many mangoes at one time
of year, then take a couple or few of those varieties and snap off the flowers.

of course the tree has to be of a manageable size  (so Harry doesn't need to read this thread -
 ;D)

fang
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: JF on November 26, 2012, 09:39:26 PM
BMC - I've had that same purposeful idea of chopping off the flowers to delay flowering/fruiting -
have you tried that before?  I mean if you found out you had too many mangoes at one time
of year, then take a couple or few of those varieties and snap off the flowers.

of course the tree has to be of a manageable size  (so Harry doesn't need to read this thread -
 ;D)

fang

It should work. Look what happen with Eunice's late bloom this year.
Title: Re: Extending the Mango Season
Post by: BMc on November 26, 2012, 09:50:01 PM
BMC - I've had that same purposeful idea of chopping off the flowers to delay flowering/fruiting -
have you tried that before?  I mean if you found out you had too many mangoes at one time
of year, then take a couple or few of those varieties and snap off the flowers.

of course the tree has to be of a manageable size  (so Harry doesn't need to read this thread -
 ;D)

fang

I've done it with early season bloomers and it works a charm, but have not tried on late season mangoes. I have heard from a friend on the south side of town that a Vietnamese gent who lives accross the street from him does it to half of his KP, NDM and long Viet mango trees and gets them to fruit much later, well after the season has finished. I Have done it to my Maha, Kwan and Alison Red KP and they have all rebloomed and set a few fruit. I actually tried cutting flowers off the Kwan repeatedly as it is still quite small, but it just wont stop pumping out the flowers and fruit - so its probably a prime candidate for that sort of treatment.