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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: May 24, 2020, 03:47:17 PM »

Recently did a mango sampling at work between a lemon zest off my tree, Cac, and Pim Saen Mun both grown by tropical acres. All three mangos were in absolute form and I was totally excited to compare the three side by side myself while also getting feedback from three associates who do not have a ďare you experiencedĒ in Jimi Hendrix terms knowledge like myself, are mangos drugs? ...anyways. The winner clearly was Cac which was super sweet cataloupe and honeydew melon with faint musk after finish wowed the crowd. The PSM banana popsicle/sugar cane flavor and Lemon Zest citrus oranges and creamy flesh with little sub acid zing...were tied for second.

Iím gonna venture out on a limb and say, that Cac will probably be the best Iíll have this year. And the season I had just started!


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: May 24, 2020, 03:28:29 PM »

Lakshmi Mango

Purchased this mango from Walter Zills stand, just one. The story behind it is a friend or patron said it was a good mango and so Walter grafted it to see if it would sell. The fruit is very rounded and resembles the shape of a large green Granny Smith apple. There was no smell to the outside of the mango while the flesh had a slight give to it. Cutting it open I noticed the flesh is a pale yellow, totally fiberless, and flesh is very firm and not juicy strikes me as there is hardly any juice on the plate after every cut was made. This is a very interesting and unique mango flavor wise as it a bartlet pear, definitely PEAR, like no other mango I could compare this to that Iíve ever had. As I ate nearest the skin there is a sweeter honey flavor with some faint resin twist. Definitely recommend giving this one a shot to see how you like it, the flavor is so different that I think itís going to have a love/hate following.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: May 21, 2020, 08:25:44 AM »

One thing I havenít seen/heard people talking about: aborted embryos in E4 sugar loaf: Was noticing this last year in the mangos I ate and again this year....just opened up 3 and all three were aborted, stranger things man.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Let's Boost My Grafting Confidence!
« on: May 16, 2020, 11:38:02 AM »
Iíve been grafting atemoya and cherimoya onto reticulata and soursop rootstock using cleft grafts and zip tie method my est 80% success.

how long before you remove the zip ties? I imagine there would be long-term damage if they were left on too long.

Hey Odin,

I started these approach grafts about 40 days ago then cut off main stem from mother tree. Plan is to cut of zip ties in another month. Iím going to steak them so wind does not stress the young graft union. I attempted 5 approach grafts 3 Excalibur red and two TM red, 2 Excalibur red and 1 TM red were successful. I used the zip ties to secure branch union then wrapped over the zip ties and graft cut with parafilm.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Let's Boost My Grafting Confidence!
« on: May 15, 2020, 08:07:03 AM »
Hey Kevin,

I feel annonas are pretty easy, Iíve been grafting atemoya and cherimoya onto reticulata and soursop rootstock using cleft grafts and zip tie method my est 80% success. How Iíve failed in past: do not water your newly grafted annonas with a hose carpet bombing method! Water seeps into parafilm then into graft union and rots your scion union! Instead I use a Home Depot 1 gallon pump sprayer with wand to direct water directly to roots so to avoid rotting the graft union. Here is a picture of my first approach graft I did, and my first jack fruit propagation, Excalibur red...I utilized zip ties....seem to use them for everything in garden from grafting to steaking and securing plants.

Best of luck man, grafting is an empowering skill.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: May 12, 2020, 06:29:34 AM »

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: May 11, 2020, 04:53:20 PM »

Hey Forum,

Tried a new mango called Karen Michelle, purchased from Zills. Really excited to try this one as itís the most fragrant on the ripening table at the moment. I brought it over to my wife and said wow youíve got to smell this...her response ďThey need to make perfume out of this.Ē Indeed the smell is very nice from the outside, reminds me a little like coconut cream meets Haden. Itís a good sized mango about 6in long and weighing over 1lb. I cut open the mango to reveal a bright yellow ďschool busĒ colored flesh. The flesh was juicy and had micro fibers, long strings were absent. You can see the micro fibers in the close up picture, I could also hear them splitting as I ran my knife along the seed. The flavor I would characterize as classic mango flavor in the vein as Haden/baileys marvel....some peachy tartness edge to it, but not complex and absent of resin.



This website seems totally sketch, buyer beware....look at the photo they using as ďgeffnerĒ 😂😂😂


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: M4 or Coconut Cream
« on: May 08, 2020, 12:19:56 AM »
Both are top mangos and if you could, grow both. I have a big coconut cream whith Y shape lower branch structure which Iím going to cut way back then graft E4 onto one side of the Y and have both. CC to me is more coconut with a lil faint spice note sometimes, E4 is most tropical mango Iíve ever had like a Pina colada at the beach...coconut, pineapple and a lil passion fruit all mixed in. Different textures, CC is more creamy while E4 delicate and juicy. CC tree growth habit is spindly and unruly curious how the growth habit and branching is on E4?  Glad to hear E4 is disease resistant, for me CC is spotless. Iíve heard of production issues with CC?  Last year yielded in teens but this year I only have two mangos...think I pruned it too much last year and itís mad at me and skipped this year 😒


I feel like the seller is willing to ship to other states which in other states it is ďrareĒ notice all the posters here us spoiled Floridians....


Wow Josh!!! 2 years thatís incredible!!!

If you happen to sell any of these seeds Iíd like to buy a few, thanks


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Top working Suggestions
« on: May 02, 2020, 01:04:04 PM »
Hey Sayid,

I like the Pina colada option, less vigorous pretty good production from what Iíve seen at tropical acres, plus delicious mango to boot. If you have Instagram here is a video I posted on my ďless vigor Franken-mango sex experimentĒ  tree I recently grafted white piri, jehangir, Pina colada onto a NDM this tree is next to my neighbors Carrie. The goal is to have all these less vigorous trees cross pollinate and hopefully produce seedlings of less vigorous bush like growth habit. Most likely will throw some ice cream mango scions in the mix as time goes forward.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Top working Suggestions
« on: May 01, 2020, 02:31:33 PM »
Pina colada 👀


Hey Tiff,

This is an impressive selection of annonas... question have your chaffey and el bu,po trees produced fruit yet? If so do you have pics of the fruits?




Nice tree :)

How long has the tree been in the ground?  I have a tree that I will plant in the next few weeks; trying to find the best spot for it in my yard.

Think late summer of 2019.


Worth calls by mike at trees n more... remember he had some at some point, he may have grafted some.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherilata taste test.
« on: April 22, 2020, 12:37:39 AM »
Hey JF,

Can you please elaborate on what exactly your hybrid saramuyo is? Just stating that your hybrid saramuyo looks like itís sugar apple x reticulata or reticulata x sugar apple as it looks likes the seedlings that I sprouted of which you gave me. This John painter hybrid is of reticulata and cherimoya which is why it looks different. Also on the cherilata which was pollen parent?



Oversized 2 yr old viking for reference, no other flowering sapodillas nearby in my yard or neighbors to my knowledge.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Some Butterscotch Sapodilla Flower Pics
« on: April 18, 2020, 09:23:15 AM »

Havenít seen any bees one these flowers just black ants 24/7 night and day, think they might be the main pollinators? Nonetheless impressed with quality of camera on iPhone 7+ still going strong 😂


So I,m looking up the Ambika mango and sulcata groves did a review of the Ambika mango but I think they may have had a bad one with physiological disorder ,when ever someone says pumpkin and carrot flavor that's a red flag.The link below contains that review and added bonus of ambika the actress?

I have not had ambika mango yet, but as in ďbrahm Kai meuĒ mango is strongly of carrot, parsnip in maha chanock, and last year I experienced those plus pumpkin in P22....I would say itís not out of question. Could always be a one off when eating just one mango to your point also.

I have been hitting zills up for two years once weekly during season and every time just miss the cotton candy mango... so definitely on my list. Would like to try again bolt, emerald. Just longing for more sugar loaf, fruit punch and the ice creams coming due on my tree soon.


Give Fruitscapes a call or check out annona breeding project peeps....they are annona kings


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted dragon fruit sicon
« on: April 12, 2020, 07:52:35 PM »
...just to add I tried to graft the bottom piece and I failed, tried again with another slightly longer piece from another fruit just sticking it in a pot to root and it worked. Just another option incase like me your grafting skills arenít good.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When To Graft Jackfruit In Florida
« on: April 12, 2020, 01:55:25 PM »
I tried some on April 4th, 2 approach grafts to TM Red, 3 approach grafts to Excalibur red and 7 cleft grafts of Excalibur Red will know in a month if any worked, 1st time grafting jackfruit.


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