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Temperate Fruit Discussion / New Orchard Tour Video just posted
« on: May 27, 2020, 08:34:37 PM »
https://youtu.be/zss8rkdrWb4

For those killing time and who donít mind rambling commentary  ;D

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Strange pawpaw leaf issue
« on: May 27, 2020, 05:02:17 PM »
yeah, for my personal comfort the coolness is nice!

The mulberry is just sitting there still! arg. so weird. Thanks for asking. I will probably try grafting it anyway. I don't know what else to do.
I have thought of trying an anti-fungal drench using strong Daconil solution (what I have around) but that would be very experimental.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Strange pawpaw leaf issue
« on: May 27, 2020, 03:42:25 PM »
I noticed a bit of this on May 12 this year, none since. I had more of an issue with it last year. I didn't tie a cause to it, but looking at my weather history we had a good amount of rain the night of May 11, the first since April 6. That supports it being caused by overwatering.



interesting - yeah we have just had nothing but rain for a week or more. still raining today. it's nuts. also abnormally cool temps for this time of the year. My maypop vines are about a month behind normal schedule.

Still just weird that it's only one tree but oh well. Just annoying, i'm sure it's not lethal.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Strange pawpaw leaf issue
« on: May 27, 2020, 01:10:52 PM »
Iíd love to have an easy answer but that root was so small and didnít have the pawpaw pungency.

Iím starting to think it looks like water logging, as you mentioned SeaWalnut. Being the younger leaves I think this matches up.
The problem with this theory is that itís received no more water than any other tree.
But maybe itís in a strange spot where water accumulates due to underlying bedrock formation etc. it is NOT in a low spot and water does not puddle.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Strange pawpaw leaf issue
« on: May 26, 2020, 08:05:49 PM »
Just one of my nearly 40 pawpaw trees I found has developed some odd blackening of leaves in the last week.
Itís only the newest leaves affected. Thereís nothing unique about the growing conditions of this tree. Itís right in the middle of all the other trees - same soil, water, sun, etc.

The only theory I have is root damage - about a week ago (timing lines up) I was planting yet another pawpaw (itís a sickness) about 6 feet away. In digging the hole I dug up about a foot long section of what looked like a pawpaw root, no more than 2mm in diameter. What you might see in the pot of a seedling tree.
It did not have a pungent smell like Iíve noticed when handling pawpaw roots in the past.

Any ideas?



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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this a paw paw?
« on: May 26, 2020, 05:21:45 PM »
BAM!
Nice find.

In the woods?

Yep. Went on a hike and found a grove of them. I didn't see any fruits though.

Bummer. Unfortunately that's pretty typical, though at this time of year they are pretty small, so let's hope they just escaped your eye.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this a paw paw?
« on: May 26, 2020, 05:16:15 PM »
BAM!
Nice find.

In the woods?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sulphur
« on: May 21, 2020, 09:15:30 PM »
Thanks for the link, Brandon (nice to hear from you, by the way)

That confirms for me that i am ok when adding some in the native soil backfill when planting trees.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sulphur
« on: May 21, 2020, 10:50:46 AM »
how do you know it's killing mycorrhizae? I sure hope it's not, because...

I have been using elemental sulfur for a couple years as it's about the only way to lower soil pH. the manufacturers suggest working it into the soil versus solely doing as a top-dressing because the bacteria cannot access it nearly as much on the soil surface.

I have added it to the backfill when planting pawpaw trees and so far no ill effects. It is not a macronutrient, so i feel safe using as a backfill amendment rather than compost or fertilizer which i would not do.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: "Southern" Pawpaw Source?
« on: May 20, 2020, 08:39:21 PM »
Tasted my first asimina reticulata https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwqRCtPaGlA


very cool! such a crazy coincidence because i was just watching a video of Neal Peterson discussing his hybridization efforts with A. triloba and the other Asimina. An audience member recounted how a friend was cleaning seeds of some of the florida Asimina species in his mouth and had a severe reaction.
Looks like you survived though :)


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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Paw Paw seedlings $10
« on: May 18, 2020, 10:09:40 AM »
Will Paw Paw grow in South Florida?

Not so much. At least, the legendary Bill Whitman did not have success with them.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Fungus killing mulberry?
« on: May 07, 2020, 06:55:15 PM »
Thanks SW, I will research it.

No I didnít mean to say all fungus is good. Just that I never assume all fungus is BAD

Presumption of innocence I guess you could say LOL

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Fungus killing mulberry?
« on: May 07, 2020, 09:22:49 AM »
Iíll say that normally if I saw mycelium or something like that we meet normal circumstances I would assume it is harmless. I only made the connection since the tree dramatically lost its leaves. Might be unrelated.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Fungus killing mulberry?
« on: May 06, 2020, 07:20:25 PM »
I have a wild mulberry on my property.
Last year I removed a decent sized rock that it was growing out from under. This kind of exposed some roots , so I covered the spot with very old compost.

Several weeks later all the leaves suddenly drooped at once, and later fell off.
I noticed at that time a white fungal growth (?) at the base of the tree and roots. I thought this could be the culprit. I tried a half hearted drench treatment and the white disappeared.

Fast forward to this year, late winter.
It appeared to me the buds on the tree were swelling. It was premature, but I cut the tree back severely because at the time I wanted to create low branching to try to force it into a bush form.

Now here we are and the ďstumpĒ has no signs of life EXCEPT a bark scratch reveals bright green.
However, I just noticed the white stuff is back.

Any ideas what is going on??



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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: May 06, 2020, 11:08:44 AM »
Well, Iím not an expert but simply reporting what Iíve heard others say.  ;D

If youíre willing to have fewer (but bigger) fruits, I would Maintain all hands but  go with 2 per hand.
You could experiment and do 3 per hand on some.

Small pawpaws are really not a good eating experience, so you do want bigger fruit since the seeds are so big - that way, you get more flesh compared to seeds.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: May 06, 2020, 08:30:46 AM »
Iíve not heard any recommendations about number of hands per branch or, even broader, fruit per tree or pounds of fruit per tree.

If it were me I would leave all hands/clusters. Of course some fruits
Will probably drop in their own within 2 months time. Here in the native range we call it ďJune Drop.Ē


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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: May 05, 2020, 08:44:26 PM »
They are thining the pawpaws so that the fruits get bigger.

Yes, of course, I just meant not sure why specifically 2 per cluster. Though if you have three they are more likely to crowd themselves and (1) be misshapen or fuse (2) harder to pick one fruit from the cluster without accidentally knocking an I ripe fruit loose, etc

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: May 05, 2020, 05:05:21 PM »
Yeah I just caught a Japanese beetle inside one of my flowers, so perhaps he ate the fruitlet.

Luis - I havenít looked at those videos yet but folks with the North American Pawpaw Growers are beginning to recommend thinning all clusters to only 2 fruits each. Not sure of all the reasons that are behind that. Just FYI

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: May 05, 2020, 02:18:19 PM »
Speaking of thinning, I just found one of my Shenandoah baby fruits has been sawed in half:



Itís a clean cut. I had thinned this cluster to one fruitlet, and it was about pinto bean sized.

What in the world?!?

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: May 05, 2020, 12:16:08 PM »
Awesome Luis!

Remind me - is this your first big fruiting on the Sunflower?

Also - do you plan to do any thinning of the fruits?

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Does it look intentionally planted?
It may just be a worthless wild grape.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: May 04, 2020, 10:00:06 PM »
Just want to add I bought Peterson variety scion wood through England's Fruit and Nut Tree Nursery in Kentucky. He charges a bit extra for the Trade Marked wood so I assume he has an arrangement with Neal Peterson.

I wonder if thatís a new thing. Last year I asked for Shenandoah scions because it was on his scion list, the only Peterson on it.
He replied he could not sell Peterson scions, just trees.  :o


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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: May 04, 2020, 10:16:13 AM »
I have found out about this nursery that specializes in pawpaws, very close to my country. They have a bunch of varieties, so I was wondering if anyone who has tried any of these could give their impression and maybe recommend some.

http://asiminafruit.eu/sorte/

Wow, that nursery boasts an amazing selection. I hope it's accurate and that you can get some of these.

if they truly have Jerry's Big Girl, that should be at the top of your list. From what I have been told, Jerry considered this his best creation out of many amazing varieties.
Basically Jerry's and Peterson's varieties have won the pawpaw contests for the last many years, with a only a few exceptions.

Many of the other varieties on this site are older, not-so-great cultivars. Many i have never heard of, like Georgia and Belle.

If it were me, I would get Jerry's Big Girl, Maria's Joy, Lehman 275-56 (Benny's Favorite), Shenandoah, Susquehanna, Wabash

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: May 01, 2020, 06:18:55 AM »
Guys, does someone know if scion wood of the Peterson varieties is legal for sale or not? I live in eastern Europe so grafting is the only way for me to get those varieties.

Unfortunately due to the patents and trademarks, etc, you will not find anyone ďlegallyĒ selling Peterson scions. Same with the KSU varieties.  :(

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I, for one, would consider your description "full shade"
A garage would be more like total darkness, in which no plant could survive, i would suspect.

I can't advise, however, whether dappled light would be better for coffee.

Good luck!

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