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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Squirrels
« on: June 03, 2020, 10:51:30 PM »

I like how she steps up close to the camera every few minutes . Only problem is that with so much sun glare we cannot see what she is pointing out.  Her first go tos are Carrie and Pickering which are mine for this season.

But her bruised n ugly mangoes are still too nice. When you keep your best for paying/non-paying friends.  Minimal varmints this year but when they do dip in, I sanitize with my garden hose turned onto blast. This blasts away all soft spots. too.

A great n delicious video! Listen to the birds tweeting in the background.

1. Lemon Zest

The list need not go on from there.

iow - All else is commentary. Not to mention the lies, the bulsht and the double talk. I am out tomorrow to fertilize my 9 year LZ after cutting it back last week. 8-3-9

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Watermelon ripeness
« on: June 03, 2020, 10:10:54 PM »
Thick rinds need to be juiced. I have a  Breville  fast RPM juicer but the green skin gets caught up in the blade

It takes more time but a green power- green star twin auger does it better. It is the Cadillac Escalade of juicers. But these days the ChiComs have single auger juicers. I have not surveyed eBay but at Amazon it looks like 80 dollars or so for a ChiCom single auger. Double auger extracts 10-15% more juice/

Juicing watermelon rinds with some ginger or lime is the best. Right now is the worst time to buy new or used green power on eBay.  After summer is the best as people dump their juicing programs.  I bought a green power-green star used cheap on ebay 5 years  ago. It was a back up. Then lo and behold my trusty older green power pooped out after 10 years. My back up was ready to swing into action.

Lemon Zest
Sweet Tart

Are the only ones on this list I have tasted.  I rank Carrie above them and Carrie was a new Zill back when FDR was President. Carrie is probably as good or better than all the new Zills on your list. Some are too sweet on the hypoglycemic index. But he (Zill#whatever) gave the people what they want. Cue the Kinks tune if you like.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Watermelon ripeness
« on: June 02, 2020, 03:34:29 PM »
Not growing but just buying. I saw some very nice seeded in Walmart the other day. All over all you see are seedless but Walmart still gets in seeded for the trad hold outs. When the hold outs die off we will all be eating xxxx

Your vote:
Seeded vs seedless
What do you look for in a supermarket watermelon? I look for a large yellow underbelly.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit thieves rant
« on: June 02, 2020, 03:28:35 PM »
Game Cameras. (animal trail hunting cameras). easy to place several around the yard.. even the cheap $25 ones we have work pretty decent.
Simmons makes a 4 pack for 90-150 dollar range depending on sales.

How many mangoes did she steal? They look less than ripe. It looks like she is squeezing fruits like in a supermarket and looking for a ripe enough fruit. Keitt?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2020 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: June 02, 2020, 12:34:31 PM »
I have 260-270 mango trees in Kendall and only have about 270 fruit from these trees this year and yes I pruned the heck out of them as soon as I realized I wasn't getting any fruit from them in 2020. This took about 6-8 weeks to get done and if I waited till June July Aug and Sept to do it in worse heat then we just went through that would have been like working hard in hellish conditions. What went through my mind was that a dramatic pruning could be done because the trees were pruned so early that they could get another 1 or 2 times to flush and recover with way more lower to the ground branches for easier picking and more fruit in 2021. 2021 should be a banner year after our babies took such a big vacation!!!!!
eg my 20 y/o Valencia Pride reduced from 36+ ft to about 15 ft. Keitts the same. Serious dramatic pruning because of the 3-5 months of extra recovery time.
Now any of my trees that will have fruit that can be eaten in 2021 will not be pruned until after they fruit in 2021. All my other mango trees will continue to be tipped every time I pass by them and see that they need to be tipped.

An early mango season for sure, at least on some trees anyway. On my trees that have minimal or no yield, same as you I am pruning now and looking to tip prune the new growth in 8-10 weeks/

We always have to look towards the future seasons and it is not too early to think about 2021.

2021 should be a banner year after our babies took such a big vacation!!!!!

This will happen. A nice cold winter to induce maximum  South Florida mango bloom and fruit holds.  God willing of course, but with all the bad recent news (wuhan lab created covid19 and now we get riots and looting) I think we will get this much to counter balance it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: June 01, 2020, 02:54:04 PM »

Thanks for elaborating, saying more about meditation practices. So why not have a one day, all day vipassana retreat-session right where you are. Much can be accomplished in one day. The cooler months are better.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: June 01, 2020, 01:17:10 AM »
tropical-farmer..... I looked at your videos of the mediation garden. Very impressive. I also like what Weiss has to say so you are both correct.
Personally -- meditation is a waste of time. Best prayers are said out loud. Nam Myho Renge Kyo and heart sutra recitation is more effective. As in..... say it out loud. Mantras, minding breaths etc. in meditative silence evaporates into the ether unless you are living off boiled nettles in a cave.  Like Milarepa.
While the story of Milarepa’s cave is a powerful example of one man’s journey to discover his relationship to the world, we don’t need to seclude ourselves in a cave and eat nettles until we turn green to discover the same truth for ourselves! The scientific discoveries …

Or Ray Dalio doing TM for 40 years. D credits TM for his success as a  hedgie worth 20 billions. Axe in TV show Billions is half modeled off him.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Inches of Rain today FL
« on: May 28, 2020, 05:10:32 PM »
In SE Florida, in my zip 33321...... I think we have gotten 12" or more rain in the last five days. My lawn really greened up.
We even had rain last night. The canals were getting fairly low so its all good.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: my Mahachanok mango are so cute
« on: May 23, 2020, 04:58:22 PM »
Cute indeed! And in Redwood City just outside San Fran. The mango Gods are smiling on you and same with those in charge of global warming. Great colorations!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: At last! Now what?!
« on: May 23, 2020, 03:54:04 PM »
I would like to definitely grind the stumps down.
But it will be all up to me, I will have to rent one and have it be a DIY thing; after asking several tree companies many were hesitant because of the slope of the bank leading down to the water and the weight of the stump grinder. they were concerned equipment would end up in the water.

I know some people also have mentioned drilling holes into the stumps and pouring pool acid in them, to burning the stumps out by building a fire on them.

I am open to suggestions.

I had an Aussie pine stump and after HOA complained ..... OK it was a glorious 35 year old tree that I had it topped off once  by the tree trimmers. THEN ten years after/later Me and friend wasted it completely down to the stump. Lets say a 24" diameter stump. After 5 years of rotting in place I was able to easily chain saw it and remove it via pick axe.  No chems used

In your shoes I would leave the stumps, plant mango trees etc. in between.  Take your own personal chainsaw to stumps and cut the stumps downwards into quarters/  Use chems after those quarters rot. Chems means all nitrogen fertilizers or as close to this as you can get.

On smaller stumps go over them many times with ye old circular saw. Do it now on large stumps for shits n giggles. You will have to buy a few cheap Communist Chinese blades at Harbor Freight.

Wow, thats a lot of info I will have to keep in mind. I will take some inspiration from the images you have provided and I will try something myself, but it will most likely be very different. Unlike many people here I have a very tiny area in which to grow my plants. The only reason I have as many as I do is due to aggressive pruning, most plants in pots, and well hope that it works out, which so far it does. This however has the downside of creating a lot of shade essentially everywhere except for a few spots, but I just might let the trees grow there for the sake of more fruit production. That leaves the entire land shaded. So unless some of these plants are going to do good in shade, I fear it won't be possible. I am also worried about annuals, since I can't always be there to replant and such. I'm hoping to get some plants that will grow among the trees no problem with me occasionally cutting them down to put over my typical home depot mulch in hopes to replace some of its usage. I hear perrenial peanuts do good in shade, so those should be good as nitrogen fixers, but even that confuses me a bit. If these chop and drop plants are sop fast growing and become green manure, don't they take nutrients from the soil themselves, same with the nitrogen fixers?

#1- You are doing great and lots of thinking
#2- We go to war with the army that we have. The soil and the space we have at our disposal.

drone pigeon peas ... Impressive photo. Your are very dedicated and will make a dent BUT --Most people are going to grow chop-drop in a more haphazard way. Have you ever used a scythe? I have and this is what you need.

With your chop drop peas let them grow woody/ you probably are.  Yeah, you can make a dent and some mulch with those pigeon peas. You are the exception and not the rule

All chop/drop plants mentioned above are 95% water so very very limited in effect/ Get a pile of wood chips dropped off. Talk to tree trimmers and get some. If you have the space and no HOA then use some to mulch now and leave half to rot in a pile.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: At last! Now what?!
« on: May 21, 2020, 11:15:37 AM »
Are you going to bring in the stump grinder man or will you get rid of the stumps with nitrogen fertilizer? Job well done! You can now put in some useful fruit trees.

I believe you cannot plant Aussie pines anymore. They are banned as being non-native. I like them, many properties here have them planted as hedges 20-30-40 years ago.

A good girdling video, but done to stimulate mango production, a lemon tree and a few others are also demonstrated.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: what to do
« on: May 20, 2020, 07:16:52 AM »

On your Indian technique I would not cook the mango cubes until soft. I am sure they will rot. I would cook them until the point where they have gotten hot but are still firm. If you/anyone like to consume pro-biotic capsules..... You can drop one in any pickling or kraut you are making and get a better mix of bacteria in your final result.

A really easy and quick pickle to make is with Chinese cabbage aka Napa cabbage. Do not cut it up in small pieces. Instead cut up as best you can into 2" x 2" squares. Sprinkle the right amount of salt on them. Go on line to see what this is. No vinegar needed. Add the contents of one or two probiotic capsules.  You can add a bit of cayenne pepper if you like. Edible in 5 days but let it ferment for 10 to get a higher bacteria count.

For local fans of kimchi. There is a Korean owned Asian grocery store that makes theirs in-house. It is not very hot/spicy. They make it just right. In other Asian stores I see kimchi made in California.

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Hi All

On one mango tree I have some 3" diameter branches that I would like to see new branches coming out lower down from where it is presently branching out. You know how thick the bark is on a 3" diameter. I am thinking of using my electric drill to drill 6 holes that new branches will emerge from. I am thinking of going 1/4" deep with either a 1/8" or 1/4" drill bit. Does this make any sense? The same thing could be done to the trunk of a mango tree that is 3" in diameter.

Will drilling these holes stimulate this branch to put out new branches lower down?

Also does anyone have some other brilliant ideas for how to induce new branches on a mango or avocado tree? Would a slit with a knife work better? Thanks!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: MANGO TREE ETHICS
« on: May 19, 2020, 10:09:23 PM »
New buyers cut trees down fruit trees all the time so have a good talk with new neighbor

From late 1960s into the 1970s My father had a 1949 wooden hull Chriscraft boat. About 22ft long. My job was to caulk the seams every two years. I did a good job but there inevitably was seepage that we removed with the bilge pump. Back then caulk came in a can. It had a slant six inboard engine that never failed us. Coolant of course was ocean water. We did lots of fishing. Blues were always an easy catch. Flounder, blow fish and better fish were around too. This was off of Freeport, Long Island in NY.

We would often hook dogfish, which as you know are tiny sharks. We would take them by the tail and wack them against the hull a few times. Stunned or dead I don't know, they were tossed back in the ocean. For sure some swam away. This was always good for some mirth and  laughs. We water-skied off it even though the  Chriscraft didn't go fast. I often drove the boat though my father was the captain. He took boating classes at the power squadron to learn charts and other important requirements.

So.....Orkine and I can bring down a bushel of mangoes in a few weeks. After you and yours have eaten them all you give us a phone call and we will go out on the water for a day. Good trade as far as I know.  :)

Sounds like somewhere in the routine you forgot to inject bleach intravenously ;)

Photos included.....This account has people cleaning up their blood and curing their Covid19 via intravenous cousin of bleach. Intravenous ClO2 / Chlorine Dioxide

Spain is the largest avocado producer in Europe. You can see the varieties grown there. In southern Spain along the coast. If you can visit Spain you can see how they cultivate them. Italy and Greece have good avocado climates but it seems few if any avocado plantations.

‘Winter Mexican’

I doubt you will find these in Europe, where you can buy the young trees to be sent to you in Georgia.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: MANGO TREE ETHICS
« on: May 17, 2020, 11:28:08 PM »
Hi Abe. My mango harvest is ho-hum this year. Redeemed by lots of Carrie fruits. We all want colder winters to send the mango trees into proper dormancy. This leads to timely and proper blooming.

 And I just want to let all forum members know that you are a charter boat captain as you state at your first post up at the top. Capt. Abie Raymond of Biscayne Park and check out his Instagram for some big bad fishes his guests have caught. And I mean big. You seem to do a lot of catch and release. I hope some get eaten. Anyways, Captain Abe is your go to man for a day of solid fishing. He knows all the good spots because he has worked with and trained for years with the best out of Miami.


I use a scant handful of slow release Nutricote Total w/micronutrients 180 day release but only once/year. I had another fertilizer which wasn't slow release and it evidently had too much release of copper. That one burned the leaf tips be careful bromeliads do NOT like copper. The planting I have looks like it will average 50 or more fruit/year. This was last year this year there are a few more.

I looked at your video. It all looks so good! You have some ripened to golden perfection pineapples there. Yeah I know this was from Jun 29, 2019. They are large, they should go for $4 minimum for such prime tastes. You never see such gold colors in the store. Golden all over the pineapple. Better than a watery mango any day of the week.

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