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Oh, that sounds like a challenge!
Guess I had better dig the lights out and get busy. 
I don't want to be the only tropical greenhouse in Idaho NOT all decked out for the holidays  ;)


Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Best performing blueberry varieties
« on: November 27, 2020, 03:53:45 PM »
I just let them freeze, unless it gets REALLY cold, like low single digits. Then I toss them in the greenhouse.
And they are plastic pots, not clay, so they dont break.


Daintree the Daintree is one of the few places cassowaries and lace monitors live together...

We LOVED the Daintree (I collect World Heritage sites...), hence the name of my greenhouse "Daintree Arboretum".  I always go barefoot, and walking near our hut on a little jungle path I got 5 leeches.  We saw frogs, lizards and scrubfowl, but not a wild cassowary.

Brian, my Bahaman anoles all disappeared, but the big green ones stuck around.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 3 Sisters 2.0
« on: November 27, 2020, 10:05:50 AM »
Does two sisters count? I like to plant yam vines up my outdoor trees.  The tree roots make it hard to harvest the yams, but it sure is pretty!

Gooseberries need about 1,200 hours below 45 degrees for their chill hour requirements. Also, very hot temps can cause fruit drop and wilting.  I would think that if you can grow apples, you should be able to grow gooseberries, currants and jostaberries.
Good luck!


Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: General question on temperate trees
« on: November 26, 2020, 10:25:48 PM »
I don't know about southern locales, but up here in the north where the ground freezes, tree roots go into a resting phase in the winter. Unlike the tree inself, which may go totally dormant, during the winter the roots remain ready to grow, and regardless of air temps, will grow if the soil temps are warm enough. Snow cover helps insulate the roots to protect them from freezing.


Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Best performing blueberry varieties
« on: November 26, 2020, 10:13:58 PM »
Our soil here is very alkaline, and there is nothing other than sulfur that will help, and you have to keep adding it all the time. The soil will always revert to its natural pH.  There is a blueberry farm here, and they have to add TONS of sulfur every year, and always will.
If you can, plant them in pots. Then you have total control over the mix. Mine are planted in 20 gallon pots in peat moss and bark, and do great.


Whoa! That is one big lizard!
I had a Nile Monitor, which is very similar to a goanna. Fast and mean. Her name was Godzilla and she lived up to it. Got loose one day and had my cat pinned on top of the fridge when I got home. Her only claim to fame was that she didn't bite me TOO often...

Love the cassowaries, too, but yeah, I would NOT want one in my garden.  I am guessing they would rather fight than leave!


Citrus General Discussion / Re: Things To Remember When Pruning
« on: November 25, 2020, 04:03:47 PM »
Your timing of this advice is perfect (she says, pruners in hand...)!


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New member
« on: November 25, 2020, 01:44:17 PM »
Hi Ellie!
That is my granddaughter's name, also!

I am in the US, so I like to hit any African or Asian markets that I can find.
Uwajimaya is a favorite for "in person" shopping.

There are some mail order places in Florida that I like, and the local grocery stores are now carrying jackfruit on a regular basis!

Are you growing anything yourself, or just shopping?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Organic Fertilizers
« on: November 25, 2020, 01:39:25 PM »
Let's just agree that there are many paths to the fruit stand.

I really REALLY don't want fertilizer to be "one of those" topics.

My nerves are already jangled from trying to avoid making somebody angry by merely mentioing politics, religion, gun control, global warming, and whether zebras are black with white stripes or white with black stripes!

Peace, joy, love and blessed holidays of all sorts to everyone!!!!


Wonderful to see non-lethal Aussie snakes!!!

Carpet python and green tree snake?


I have put a couple of little garter snakes in my greenhouse, but they always disappear.  I think they open the door at night...  hope your quail are all doing well!

Both Brian and I have tiny quail in our greenhouses.  They are AWESOME for insect cleanup!  Every time I move a pot they come running to eat the bugs.  They are especially fond of little beetles and centipedes.
Mine are Chinese Painted Quail, also called King Quail. They "laugh" a lot, which always makes me smile.

I have been very happy with the anoles.  They are total murder on ants.  They eat the spiders too, which doesn't thrill me, but I guess it is survival of the fastest! The anoles WERE getting a bit hungry after they cleaned up the ant population (I could see their ribs...), so I captured them one day and tossed them in a plastic tub with a bunch of crickets.  One of them managed to shove three crickets in his mouth at once!  So I figure I will just catch them every so often and feed them.  I tried turning crickets loose in the greenhouse, but the quail gobbled them up before the anoles found them.  The anoles like to be way up high and the crickets stay on the ground.

The only issue I have had with wildlife in the greenhouse is that I think I may have a jaguar problem.  A couple of people have gone missing out there...


I have a few anoles out in my greenhouse to keep the ant population down. I bought them for $3 each at the pet store this summer, and they are a delight to watch as they leap around, licking up pests.

But yesterday, I walked out to my greenhouse and was greeted with one of my high velocity ceiling fans making a whhhrrrrr...TICK......whhhrrrrr...TICK noise.  Looking up, I was horrified to see one of the anoles intermittently flying around inside the fan cage as his poor little body hit the blades.

Screaming, I ran to the breaker and shut everything off, then grabbed a ladder to retrieve the presumably mangled corpse.
But before I could climb up . . . thump. . . the body fell out of the fan grating and onto the ground.

I reached down to pick it up, and boy was I happily surprised when he ran up my arm onto my shoulder!  If a lizard could have a wild look in his eye, this little tyke had one!  His color was a mottled patchwork of green and brown, and he was actually panting, but amazingly, there was not a mark on him!

The only thing I could figure was that he was so lightweight, the fan was just throwing him around instead of chopping him up! I hope he learned his lesson, but I doubt it.

Blessed Thanksgiving!


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Organic fertilizers
« on: November 24, 2020, 10:32:05 AM »
In Idaho, we have a big problem with nutrient runoff into the river, both synthetic phosphorus and organic nitrogen.   It doesn't seem to matter if it is organic or not, it is all chemicals. 

By practicing correct nutrient management techniques, conservation drainage practices (which I suspect may be difficult, up to impossible in Florida due to high water tables and porous soils), ground covers and conservation tillage, the problem can be solved, whether we use organic or synthetically sourced products.

Personally, my problem with organics is that it is hard to tell what is actually being put into the soil and what the plants are able to use. 

I ran a fertilizer test in my greenhouse, and sent many potting soil samples off for lab analysis and was heartened to find that my synthetic fertilizers were not adversely affecting the microorganisms I was trying to encourage.  On the flip side, my organically fertilized plants were not getting enough of key nutrients. Of course, this was all in pots...

No matter what the source of the nutrients, as long as the results are good, the environment is protected,  sound science is used and results are verifiable, it seems like a "win" all around to me!

Have a Blessed Thanksgiving!

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Stonefruit Canker?
« on: November 23, 2020, 10:52:05 PM »
Michigan State University has a good handout on it.


Yep, I agree that it is sesame.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Stonefruit Canker?
« on: November 21, 2020, 11:41:46 AM »
Some varieties are fairly resistant, and will still produce but look ugly, like Jaboticaba45's trees. Some varieties will succumb rather quickly. Either way, no reason to buy a three legged horse...


Citrus General Discussion / Re: Earthworms in pots
« on: November 21, 2020, 11:39:19 AM »
Lebmung, I think you are probably tilting at windmills.
If your soil is heavy and waterlogged in the fall, the plants are saying they need less water at that time of year.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kitchen sink foliar feed ok?
« on: November 19, 2020, 09:59:42 AM »
Whether foliar feeding actually works or not depends on the nutrients provided, the plants involved, the temperature, etc. There is a great article about foliar feeding here -


Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Stonefruit Canker?
« on: November 19, 2020, 09:43:57 AM »
It looks like black knot disease.  Like most fungal diseases, there is no cure, just mitigation.
A lot of trees can tolerate it with no harm, but I would not buy any tree that is already infected.
You may want to point it out to the nursery manager at Lowes. They should also notify the producer...

Cheers, Carolyn

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Marula Germination
« on: November 18, 2020, 07:33:30 PM »
I planted this seed on July 12. The trunk is about the thickness of a pencil now and it is over 12 inches tall.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Marula Germination
« on: November 18, 2020, 07:26:36 PM »
So the trick is you have to check the WHOLE stone, so I wouldn't be able to guess, from a single angle, whether your seed is male or female.  I have found that sometimes you can scrape the stone to make the eyes easier to see.
Each eye has a darker center, a slightly paler edge, and then a fine line, which is where you would place a knife blade to pry the eye out.  The eyes are NOT perfectly round.  They may be roundish, or more oblong.   

Also, if you planted some in soil, and they have NOT germinated yet, just dig them up, scrape them off with a sharp pocket knife, then pry the lids off the eyes.  Then you will know for sure if they are make or female, and which eyes are "good". I planted some on July 12 of this year, and the trees are over a foot tall.  Will post shortly.

Hope this helps!

In this picture, you can three eyes. One on each point of the stone.

Here is another angle, where you can see two eyes.  You can also see the knife marks where I have cleaned the stone to find the eyes.

Another angle.

The last angle, where I discovered that this stone actually has FOUR eyes.  The fourth eye was very hard to see with my eyes, but it showed up on the photo. The eye on the left is more oblong, the eye on the right is more round, and the eyes are almost touching each other.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: magic fruit (Synsepalum dulcificum) dying
« on: November 18, 2020, 06:47:34 PM »
Well, my first thought is that it may be the water you are using. Can you explain what you mean by "mineral water"? Do you mean a water that is high in dissolved solids such as calcium and magnesium? Or do you just mean "spring water", which may or may not have a lot of minerals.
Miracle Fruit likes very acidic soil, and many mineral waters can have a high pH.
When the soil pH is too high for them, they can't utilize iron, so maybe try a soil acidifier like sulfur.

Also, it may be that you are overwatering. Yellow leaves and brown tips can be a sign of overwatering (or underwatering, or too much fertilizer...).

60 degrees outside shouldn't hurt it.

Because I have a mature one of these plants, I have grown a LOT of them from seed, and sometimes they just crash and don't recover, and I never know what did it.

Maybe other folks have some other ideas.

Good luck!

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