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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Real cherilata
« on: Today at 02:12:20 AM »;all
Go ahead and read this thread reply#9 jabba
I think you are confusing john words: Tikal x cherimoya
It that a cherilata? No, itís a retimoya

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Real cherilata
« on: August 02, 2020, 01:40:21 PM »
Joe, most likely a seed from fino or Dr. white cross with reticulate . John Travis hybridized anona is reticulate x cherimoya or Atemoya which equals a retimoya NOT a Cherilata. This is a true Cherilata ( cherimola x reticulata), cherimoyas don't preform well in Florida.....they probably flower and set fruits but end up dropping. I have friends in Miami growing cherimoyas and the results have been malformed inedible anonas.

Pierce is Accepted as the ultimate anona with a rating of 10 then the Cherilata is 5 and the JT retilata 3 or 4. Iíll compare the retilata vs Cherilata in a few year when i fruit both.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Real cherilata
« on: August 01, 2020, 11:46:41 PM »

Did you breed this fruit?


Hi Joe
I wish I did but I can not take credit, itís from a friend of mine. We have not named it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Real cherilata
« on: August 01, 2020, 09:20:49 PM »
Monster size real cherilata. With proper fertilizing, the taste is good and different from moyas and atemoyas. If you give 10 to Birula, this is a 7

Btw, i appreciate everyoneís interest in my Cherilata but I will not be selling scions until fall 2021 tree and grafts are too small. Thanks

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Real cherilata
« on: July 31, 2020, 03:45:39 PM »

Here are pix of the cherilata from Florida and mine:

Here is mine:

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Ilama seeds for sale
« on: July 28, 2020, 01:48:41 PM »
Iíll have some in November and maybe trees

Hi Gary
Glad you are doing well, stay safe in the desert. LZ and St are much more intense and flavorful in SoCal than the Florida version I have had.....and I have had dozens of Florida LZ and ST.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit tasting get together san diego
« on: July 22, 2020, 05:22:13 PM »
Donít you dare lecture me about whatís unamerican and whatís not Mister!!...Iím 60 years old and a US Marine so you can go to hell w yr propaganda.  DeSantis and Trump have cause more harm and death to this country than bid laden and Fidel Castro combine.....again keep yr garbage politics away from this forum

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit tasting get together san diego
« on: July 22, 2020, 04:48:45 PM »
Zands keep yr political garbage To yrself. Now heís sending the gestapo to Seattle what other proof do you need? Do you have any decency and respect for the 145,000 Americans that have expired due to trump virus?

Brad a word of advice, if someone yr dealing does not feel right go w yr instinct and donít sell to them. Iíve had someone blame me because their scions or cuttings didnít take. Some folks donít appreciate the service we provide and the trouble we go through. If someone doesnít like the price and shipping keep yr money we donít want it.

Hey frank hope you are staying healthy and your plans for Mexico haven't  been screwed up.  I hear you, I was a bit hard on this guy.  It's hard to keep everyone happy, sometimes people make mistakes both parties aren't happy, scions don't take etc.  Shit happens.

Brad, my blessings to you and yr family. All plans have been scrapped for now but Iím optimistic that things will improve. My point is when you exchange PMís or text w someone and you feel uncomfortable it best to tell them ,politely, thanks but no thanks. One has to use ones good judgment and common sense to avoid confrontations.

Brad a word of advice, if someone yr dealing does not feel right go w yr instinct and donít sell to them. Iíve had someone blame me because their scions or cuttings didnít take. Some folks donít appreciate the service we provide and the trouble we go through. If someone doesnít like the price and shipping keep yr money we donít want it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Super Hass avocado
« on: June 15, 2020, 02:33:49 PM »
Carmen Hass is not a multi crop avocado at least not in SoCal. We have a large specimen in The Great Park in EL Torro that my friend Jon, master gardener, planted some years ago and it has not produce multi crops consistently

The mango scion sale ended last night! I want to thank everyone who participated for their tremendous support. I might have a combine mango and anona scion sale in late August. All orders will be completed and shipped by Monday and I will provide tracking numbers all always.

The following have been sold out:
Coco cream
Fruit Punch
Please take a look at the list and do not include the varieties above or yr order will not be process.
Thanks you for yr patience and understanding

Just a reminder that I will be accepting pick up in La Habra no later then Saturday 12 pm. All shipping orders will be shipped Monday. I will stop taking any orders Friday 8 pm. There are no exceptions as I'm leaving town early next week due to a flight cancellation and reschedule.

Fruit punch sold out. Please check list before ordering or paying

Just to be sure, you say 10 scions per order?  No more, no less?

Can I place 2 orders?

I added several new varieties to the list. Minimum of 10 scions per order with 2 of ea varieties ....same rules as the annonas scion sale. Some varieties I have very limited and limited. VP mean 5 or less scions, Limited 10 or less scions.

in terms of taste and flavors only, what are the top 6 you like  from the list?

Thatís a difficult choice, all are excellent varieties but if you press me here my top 6 from the list:

Please submit yr list Thursday-Saturday. I will not take any others after Saturday as I need time to ship latest June 17 before I depart.
Thanks Frank

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Inches of Rain today FL
« on: June 04, 2020, 07:20:50 PM »
YucatŠn 25Ē this week and more in the weekend. By the time this tropical storm passes weíll have half the rain total for the year in a few days.

Hi no guava for sale. I donít anticipate offering anymore Iím relocating to YucatŠn. I have a 24 gallon Merida rojo available but I see yr in Florida.

Is there somewhere that you can point me to that describes the different varieties? Do you have any favorites? I'm planning to buy a mango tree tomorrow to graft onto.

You can do a search in the forum or check out top tropical, tropical acres farm, they have great descriptions of the fruits.

Manohar and parson is a steal.

When will u bargain Senyorita? 🤣

SeŮorita wonít be out for a while my tree died last year( on corriente rootstock) and I have the backup growing nicely.

This is a small list of mango scions I have available for sale. Price $5 per scions 2 varieties minimum 10 Total scions per order shipping $7. This is a California sale only as I donít want to make too may trips to the post office. Iíll do another sale to all states in September and will have mango trees in Manila type and turpentine rootstock as well as mature mangos and cherimoya trees in 45-100 galllon. Please get yr list ready as this sale will be for one week only as Iíll be out of town until August.

LZ (P)
St (P)
Fruit Punch(VL) SOLD OUT
NDM4(VP) 8 left SOLD OUT
LilGem(VL) 6 left
Parson(VP) 10 left SOLD OUT
Amrapali (P)
Sunrise(VL) 4 left SOLD OUT
Harvest moon(P)
Coco cream(L)
Glenn (P)
Zinc (VL)5 left SOLD OUT
Malika (L)

Very Limmited (VL)

Frank, you were one of the pioneers that got me interested in Mangos and without your guidance and introducing me to other pioneers in the Mango world, I probably wouldnít even have a mango tree in my yard right now.

You have vast knowledge of Mangos, Annonas and other fruit trees and I greatly appreciate all the recommendations and advice you have given me over the years.

The Florida Turpentine rootstock trees do have a purpose. For example, people that donít know how to graft can purchase a Florida tree and not have to worry about learning how to graft. Also, for me personally, I purchase Florida Turpentine rootstock trees when there is a new variety out and scions arenít available. I keep my Florida trees in pots and grow them out to use for their scions. My last Florida tree I purchased was a Cotton Candy.

Hopefully everyone out there with Florida trees will be successful with them but if you are not, donít give up. Try planting various random mango seeds from fruit you eat at the supermarkets and hopefully some will grow vigorously for you.

I highly recommend growing out seeds of the following varieties: Sweet Tart, NDM, Orange Sherbet, Valencia Pride, Kent, Haden, Tommy Atkins, Manilla/Ataulfo/Champagne.


Hey Simon
I have the upmost respect for you. Good friends sometimes have small disagreements and thatís ok. I leave you with another Florida turpentine PPK thatís been in the ground for 3 years doing very well.

I worked in FV in the early 80ís and saw a lot of new home being build. Builders would dump their debris before laying out the topsoil.  I have a friend that live in FV that found slabs of concrete when he started planting his trees. Before I can advice you I need know what type of soil yr working. You can always text me Nate, you have my cell number.

PPK on Florida rootstock 3 year in ground

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