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Thanks for the comments Jeff. We Plan on updating those descriptions again after the season is over as thereís a decent amount of stuff fruiting for first time.

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The two in my case were carrie and keith.
Last year was a monster year on the Carie.  Unless I get another flush which I doubt this year will be slim.
May be a good year to prune and shape the tree.
UPDATE

Strange thing.

As I mentioned earlier my Keith flowered but failed to hold fruit.
I decided perhaps it was a year to heavy prune to try to shape the tree, take the opportunity that it was not fruiting.
I went by the tree this weekend to figure the cuts I wanted to make and lo and behold, it is trying to flower again.  It hasn't been cold, at least not cold enough to stimulate flowering.  The new panicles are just coming in and there few of them, I counted less than a dozen on the entire tree.  They are miserable looking but they are panicles and that was a surprise.

Anyone seeing this late flowering from trees that flowered but failed earlier in the season?

Yes, minor amount from a tiny bit of cool temps in March + dry conditions. Itís going to be inconsequential.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Orange Essence Mango AKA 40-33
« on: April 14, 2019, 10:47:22 AM »
I've been wondering about this one and also Peach Cobbler.  Since PPK is not a parent to these two, where does the citrus or orange flavor come from?  Wouldn't LZ or Orange Sherbet be WAY MORE citrusy?  Do we know yet whether OS suffers from MBBS? I want to add a citrus-flavored mango, but which one at this point since MBBS is such a major future issue?

Orange Sherbet appears to handle mbbs a lot better than Lemon Zest and PPK according to Walter Zill.

Orange Essence get its citrus component from Gary similar to the way Peach cobbler does. Orange sherbetís citrus component it more pronounced though so if youíre looking for something in that flavor group, Iíd go with that.

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Bump for tonight

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out of curiosity what is kasturi 6-25 and 6-26? didn't realize there were actual varieties of it.

Two kinds growing at USDA. One turns a darker purple color. I canít remember which though. 6-26 has some fruit on it this year.

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Hey everyone, tomorrow Iíll be giving another mango talk to the Palm
beach Rare Fruit Council starting about 7:30pm.

The topic will be the new diseases impacting mango in south Florida with a little discussion of the current mango season as well. In past, the disease issue has only been a part of the talks but this one will center on them with a potential treatment protocol that Iíve been experimenting with. Everyone is welcome to attend.

Location is 531 north Military Trail, West Palm Beach, FL 33415

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Weíve started selling budwood again. $4 per scion + shipping. Availability list below. These are trees large enough to harvest from and not under any proprietary restriction (ex. no coconut cream for this reason):

https://www.tropicalacresfarms.com/budwood-availability

If interested in ordering, send us a checklist to Tropicalacresfarms@gmail.com and we will look for what has active buds. Please take into consideration that some varieties are scarce due to high demand and not large trees (Cotton Candy , sugarloaf and Orange Sherbet perhaps chief among these)

Thanks for reading!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 07, 2019, 09:47:07 AM »
ST is amazing flavor wise. It is too big for zone pushing, but if I lived a bit further south I'd definitely plant one even if it didn't produce consistently. Maybe others can comment on what is inconsistent about it. Does it skip flowering? Flower but not set?

Doesnít flower consistently. Sets strongly when/where it does flower.

Great info - thanks! What factors have you observed that affect flowering? Curious if they are factors a dooryard grower can control (e.g. amount of water or fertilizer). Or are they just up to the weather (e.g. number of chill hours)?

Cool weather is the biggest floral promoter, with dry weather being the other climactic promoter. Age of the stems (older stems being more likely to flower), moon phases and health of the tree have a say in whether the trees respond to floral stimuli.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 06, 2019, 07:43:46 AM »
ST is amazing flavor wise. It is too big for zone pushing, but if I lived a bit further south I'd definitely plant one even if it didn't produce consistently. Maybe others can comment on what is inconsistent about it. Does it skip flowering? Flower but not set?

Doesnít flower consistently. Sets strongly when/where it does flower.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 04, 2019, 07:31:01 PM »
Cotton Candy has been the cleanest in my yard

Powdery Mildew conditions at my place for over a month but none on the Candy


On the other had Phoenix would have lost entire crop without sulfur spray

Phoenix does appear to be highly prone to PM.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 04, 2019, 12:51:22 PM »


My PPK is a real  workhorse, producing heavily every year. Last year, I noticed that it can be affected by bacterial black spot. Lost a few mangoes to BBS, but the tree produces enough not to be worried by the loss of a few mangoes.

be ready to lose more than a few.


Every year, i lose more than a few due to heavy wind. There is at least one such day every year as well. Fingers crossed that I won't lose a lot to BBS this year.

On to another topic: This year, I see mangoes that earlier to used to be virtually blemishless - NDM #4, Kesar and Val Carrie for example - have dirty black patches on the skin. Anthracnose or something else?  Florigon, Edgar,Maha Chanok, Taralay and Juicy Peach do not seem to be affected. Any thoughts?

Scarring from anthracnose during early fruit development


Hmmm.. I did spray copper. Kocide 3000 and Southern AG liquid copper.  Should i spray something else instead next year?

Using two copper products is relatively pointless. Better to rotate one with a non-copper based fungicide

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 04, 2019, 12:19:23 PM »


My PPK is a real  workhorse, producing heavily every year. Last year, I noticed that it can be affected by bacterial black spot. Lost a few mangoes to BBS, but the tree produces enough not to be worried by the loss of a few mangoes.

be ready to lose more than a few.


Every year, i lose more than a few due to heavy wind. There is at least one such day every year as well. Fingers crossed that I won't lose a lot to BBS this year.

On to another topic: This year, I see mangoes that earlier to used to be virtually blemishless - NDM #4, Kesar and Val Carrie for example - have dirty black patches on the skin. Anthracnose or something else?  Florigon, Edgar,Maha Chanok, Taralay and Juicy Peach do not seem to be affected. Any thoughts?

Scarring from anthracnose during early fruit development

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 03, 2019, 10:08:07 PM »


My PPK is a real  workhorse, producing heavily every year. Last year, I noticed that it can be affected by bacterial black spot. Lost a few mangoes to BBS, but the tree produces enough not to be worried by the loss of a few mangoes.

be ready to lose more than a few.

Seems to be pretty hard to find a mango that doesnít have disease issues and also produces good consistently every year.

Pickering and Duncan are some good options

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 03, 2019, 09:00:53 PM »


My PPK is a real  workhorse, producing heavily every year. Last year, I noticed that it can be affected by bacterial black spot. Lost a few mangoes to BBS, but the tree produces enough not to be worried by the loss of a few mangoes.

be ready to lose more than a few.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 03, 2019, 06:22:05 PM »
Here is a great source on MANY Mango varieties and will answer many of your questions. I found these the most comprehensive descriptions out on the web.

https://tropicalacresfarms.com/mango-descriptions-a-j
Wow! They did a phenomenal job, describing and evaluating so many varieties, especially all the newest ones.  VERY IMPRESSIVE (AND THANK YOU, ALEX)!!!

Thank you for the kind comments.

We are about to post an updated version of the website which will give each mango itís own page.

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Interesting that PSM doesnít do well there.


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Free green Sapote
« on: March 30, 2019, 04:04:44 PM »
What kind of green Sapote is it?

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Iíve never been impressed by Marcus Pumpkinís flavor. Very mild to say the least.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nishikawa Avocado in Florida
« on: March 23, 2019, 09:05:38 AM »
When does it ripen?

Ours seem to mature in October.






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nishikawa Avocado in Florida
« on: March 22, 2019, 08:52:24 PM »
Weíre growing it. I think it came up in another thread talking about Hawaiian cvs. Itís quite good.

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Unfortunately, my 3 gallon coconut cream from plantogram appeared to develop floral malformation. It was planted September 2018, and has grown a few feet since then. It started to form multiple flower panicles lately, and most of them look like below. What is the best remedy? Cut all the flowers if it has a chance in the future without the use of fungicides? Or, should I cut my losses and remove it so the disease doesn't spread to healthy trees. Thanks in advance.








Post photos when the flowers open.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rosigold mango fruiting status
« on: March 19, 2019, 02:51:53 PM »



Started eating them this week

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black banded disease on mango?
« on: March 18, 2019, 08:23:25 PM »
From what I see you just spray copper on it? I would rather it not spread to my other mango tree.

Copper might clear it up on its own but Iíd Rotate with a non-copper fungicide as well, should clear up by summer.

Honestly Iím not even attempting to control this one right now.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black banded disease on mango?
« on: March 18, 2019, 07:15:44 PM »
Itís all over south Florida now.

Just another in a steady parade of diseases attacking mango in Florida now. Luckily this one is relatively benign/irrelevant, if ugly looking. Easy to treat if you feel it necessary.

I feel like itís Only a matter of time before we get Seca.

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2 cups for a tiny tree like that is a bit much. I suspect salt burn and possibly foliar scab judging by the mis-shapen leaves, which Sweet Tart used to get for me in Loxahatchee though it was rare on Pickering.

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