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Our Sindhu is loaded with developing fruit right now.

Sonpari And Arka Neelkiran have good crops this year also.

How is taste of Sindhu compared to its parent Alphanso?
Is it really a regular bearer?

Havenít tried it yet. It made one mango last year that I didnít get to try but hopefully will get to have some this season.
How old is your Sindhu graft?

It was planted in 2017. Grafted a couple years before that.

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Our Sindhu is loaded with developing fruit right now.

Sonpari And Arka Neelkiran have good crops this year also.

How is taste of Sindhu compared to its parent Alphanso?
Is it really a regular bearer?

Havenít tried it yet. It made one mango last year that I didnít get to try but hopefully will get to have some this season.

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Our Sindhu is loaded with developing fruit right now.

Sonpari And Arka Neelkiran have good crops this year also.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lemon Zest
« on: May 22, 2020, 12:13:15 PM »
The mangos in the photographs are Lemon Meringue/PPK, not Lemon Zest.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tamaraca Mango
« on: May 14, 2020, 10:28:12 PM »



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tamaraca Mango
« on: May 14, 2020, 07:26:57 PM »
*Itamaraca

Wonderful flavor. Indian/Alphonse flavor class. Compact dense trees and productive, downside is small fruit size but flesh is completely fiberless and small seed. We actually planted a second one.

Thank you! I think i will get the tree. Any tartness or is it completely sweet?

It does have a subacid element But itís well balanced.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tamaraca Mango
« on: May 14, 2020, 05:37:07 PM »
*Itamaraca

Wonderful flavor. Indian/Alphonse flavor class. Compact dense trees and productive, downside is small fruit size but flesh is completely fiberless and small seed. We actually planted a second one.

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The fruit in the middle is Madame Frances. The roundish fruit in the bottom photo might be Cushman based on the last pic of the tree.

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A properly ripened Mallika is very similar in flavor to Lemon Zest.
Whoa!  Really, Alex?

Mallika is a hybrid between Neelam and Dasheri, but it really doesnít taste like Neelam at all. It inherited its flavor from the Dasheri which is known for having that citrus component.

Dasheri is originally from  northern India in the area of Lucknow. A theory that Ive mentioned here before and I think may hold merit is that the citrus-flavored Burmese/Lemon Meringue mangos And the Dasheri May share a common ancestor. Not only is their flavor similar, but they have similar shape, color, and another interesting trait: you may have noticed before that Lemon Meringue And Lemon Zest Can get these green splotches in their pigmentation when they ripen. One of the mangos that also gets that same green splotch pigmentation? Mallika.
Since PPK lacks the green spotting, and the LZ has a flavor more similar to Mallika, doesn't that imply that Mallika may be the pollen parent of LZ?

Time for some mango daytime TV.

PPK does get the green spotting actually, although LZ seems to get it more.

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A properly ripened Mallika is very similar in flavor to Lemon Zest.
Whoa!  Really, Alex?

Mallika is a hybrid between Neelam and Dasheri, but it really doesnít taste like Neelam at all. It inherited its flavor from the Dasheri which is known for having that citrus component.

Dasheri is originally from  northern India in the area of Lucknow. A theory that Ive mentioned here before and I think may hold merit is that the citrus-flavored Burmese/Lemon Meringue mangos And the Dasheri May share a common ancestor. Not only is their flavor similar, but they have similar shape, color, and another interesting trait: you may have noticed before that Lemon Meringue And Lemon Zest Can get these green splotches in their pigmentation when they ripen. One of the mangos that also gets that same green splotch pigmentation? Mallika.

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Is MBBS just a South Fl disease or also found in the Northern parts (namely the panhandle)?

Also, how does Ataulfo/champagne/honey mango fare to MBBS?

Probably not enough mango trees in the panhandle for it to be a problem there.

Our Ataulfo tree doesnít get it, but there arenít many Ataulfos in south Florida to compare notes on.

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I always wondered why they need cold. Arenít there varieties from Panama, Jamaica, El Salvador, and Haiti? Some those countries are zone 13. Is it a pronounced dry period that plays into it? Ghana is a mango producing country, its located 8 degrees north of equator. Let that sink in :o!

Sure, a number of varieties adapted to the tropics can achieve significant bloom with prolonged drought. That of course rarely happens here though when comparing south Florida average monthly rainfall level And that of many tropical areas where mangos flower regularly.

It also does not apply to numerous subtropical varieties (many mangos of Indian and Pakistani descent). Take a Chaunsa mango to the Philippines and it probably never flowers.

It would be incorrect to say all mangos can only flower off cold stimulus, and it would be equally incorrect to claim all mangos can flower off of drought stress.

And cold stimulus is definitely the strongest stimulus for influencing bloom among mangos in general, more so than drought stress, and most important to achieving widespread, regular bloom on mango in Florida.

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A properly ripened Mallika is very similar in flavor to Lemon Zest.

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Yah, oddly the keitt 20 feet away from the infected keitt never had a problem with MBBS. The infected keitt, after having near total crop loss for several years, has been relatively disease free for the past 2 crops. I think my spray regimen is working.


Maha Chanok , Mallika, Edgar, Sunrise, Orange Essence..

Interesting, I've noted in the past that certain trees seem resistant for some but not for others, and this is more evidence to that end.

https://www.tropicalacresfarms.com/product-page/mallika
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Mallika is highly prone to bacterial black spot and lost most of the fruit to it

Alex has also stated that Maha has similar issues in his grove.

Also CM has noted that some Keitt trees are sensitive to MBBS while others seem less affected.

Seems like there's a factor involved that needs further investigation.

I definitely think there can be a prophylactic effect from spraying with regard to mbbs.

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None of the three Mallika trees, widely separated from each other at Truly Tropical, have shown any particular weakness to MBBS.  I should have included it on my apparently resistant list.

We just don't know much about what the factors are that are at work here.

One of my customers has a Mallika thatís been getting wiped out by it for years. So thatís two Mallika trees Iím aware of getting it bad. Thatís enough evidence for me to say itís probably prone and at a minimum shouldnít be declared resistant.

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Edgar has been highly MBBS susceptible for me.


Maha Chanok , Mallika, Edgar, Sunrise, Orange Essence..

Mallika is highly MBBS prone as well.

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Anyone inspected the seed from Pineapple Pleasure? I found some reports that the seeds were mono, I'm just looking for more people to confirm.

Itís monoembryonic.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2020 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: April 18, 2020, 10:31:49 PM »
Venus is horribly prone to MBBS. The spring crop fruits have a chance of making it intact but the ones that mature in July/August will probably get massacred.

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Maha Chanok , Mallika, Edgar, Sunrise, Orange Essence..

Interesting, I've noted in the past that certain trees seem resistant for some but not for others, and this is more evidence to that end.

https://www.tropicalacresfarms.com/product-page/mallika
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Mallika is highly prone to bacterial black spot and lost most of the fruit to it

Alex has also stated that Maha has similar issues in his grove.

Also CM has noted that some Keitt trees are sensitive to MBBS while others seem less affected.

Seems like there's a factor involved that needs further investigation.

The factor is that those trees havenít been infected by the pathogen yet or had levels build up to the point that high numbers of fruit are infected. If you were to inoculate an Uni-nfected Keitt tree and allow for favorable conditions (namely wet weather), the fruit would start being affected.

Itís no different within our own orchard. We had trees of the same variety that were badly impacted and the same cultivar a few hundred yards away was fine. Then a couple years later they werenít.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2020 lychee crop good or not?
« on: April 16, 2020, 09:53:25 PM »
Lol lychees

Our Mauritius crop is zero.

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So I,m looking up the Ambika mango and sulcata groves did a review of the Ambika mango but I think they may have had a bad one with physiological disorder ,when ever someone says pumpkin and carrot flavor that's a red flag.The link below contains that review and added bonus of ambika the actress?




https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=opensearch&p=Ambika+mango#action=view&id=9&vid=29ddca5bb88920bf0525bdb6b7f29ed8

Will find out soon. Iíve heard itís quite good. The tree has an early fruit as well as a significant second crop.






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Janardhan Passand, Ambika, And Merrit Island Saigon.

Never tried them.

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Why the excitement about May First? This is too soon for sweetness. Mangoes need more sugar pumped into them via solar conversion via the leafy trees they hang from.
June First maybe.

More like April 1st in West Palm.
 

Watery like a carambola but we all must carry on. But like your otherwise due to your 256. Which amazingly enough is the size of my NVMe in my new and unfolding HP x 17.3"

New as in Nieuw to me. Scored off ebay at an un_boliveeeble_ price



 
I assure you this Edward I just picked will be anything but watery. Instead It will taste amazing.
 8)

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Why the excitement about May First? This is too soon for sweetness. Mangoes need more sugar pumped into them via solar conversion via the leafy trees they hang from.
June First maybe.

More like April 1st in West Palm.

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If you looked at all the pros and cons of each variety, I imagine Angie would come out on top.   Carrie might be sweeter and have a better flavor when picked and eaten at the PERFECT stage of ripeness, but Angie has an ideal texture which stays firm and therefore can be eaten at any stage of ripeness.  Much more practical and useful.  Alex is the pro so I wonder if he agrees.

Yes thatís a good summary.

Another cool thing about Angie is itís paper thin seed. Awesome flesh to seed ratio:





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