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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fralon Mango
« on: November 03, 2018, 02:55:15 PM »
Falan often has a splitting problem for us. Flesh is orange, has a bit of a vegetable component in its flavor, paper thin seed. Produces well. Seen it throw some off-season bloom this year but no fruit amounted from that.

We have it around for green purposes.

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I just snagged a FL Super Hass Saturday, nice, healthy specimen from Fruitscapes on Bokeelia.  What I didn't know is they have Nishikawa trees there also, I wish I had bought mine there.  Their stuff is so much better quality than Top Tropicals, and much cheaper.

And more likely to be properly Labelled as well.

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Enjoyed a delicious Super Hass from our tree this morning. You would be hard pressed to tell the difference between this and regular Hass:



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cotton Candy Mango
« on: October 24, 2018, 06:13:37 PM »
It hasn’t really tasted like Coconut to me.

As far as why it wasn’t discussed much this last season, the only large producing tree had a fairly light crop this year.  Last year it had a huge crop though.

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We’re growing Super Hass (“Oolala”) and Nishikawa. Both are excellent but I haven’t tasted them next to each other to compare. Our Nishikawa has no fruit this year but Supwr Hass has some after taking last year off.

Do you not have any Nishikawa this year because it is too young to support fruit or did it bear fruit last year but not this year?

Had some fruit last year but none this year. It’s not a big tree and has grown slowly.

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We’re growing Super Hass (“Oolala”) and Nishikawa. Both are excellent but I haven’t tasted them next to each other to compare. Our Nishikawa has no fruit this year but Supwr Hass has some after taking last year off.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to prevent Mango from blooming
« on: October 15, 2018, 12:21:43 PM »
Gibberellic Acid will inhibit bloom but doesn’t work on all cultivars and I suspect would be even less effective in California

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID this Mango (Picture attached)
« on: September 26, 2018, 08:36:23 PM »
Color and shape look like Bombay.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sienta Lone Mango
« on: September 17, 2018, 09:24:29 PM »
Behl... I believe I got our scions from dongeorgio. USDA lost their tree if I recall correctly from my email conversations with Mike W at USDA.
It seems to be a vigorous grower with larger spacing between nodes.
Maybe will get fruit next year.  Lost quite a bit of foliage on the 7/06 heatwave.

Lol, why would I not be surprised that they lost another rare mango.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID These mangoes (Pics)
« on: September 17, 2018, 06:30:16 PM »
The second photo does Look like Jehangir

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sienta Lone Mango
« on: September 17, 2018, 06:28:33 PM »
We’re growing it. Maybe next year but Probably 2020 until first fruit. Has performed horribly at the USDA.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango ID wrong cultivar?
« on: September 05, 2018, 11:08:31 PM »
It’s funny how oddly shaped a lot of these come out over there

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Topworking cogshall
« on: September 05, 2018, 10:28:25 AM »
Honey Kiss can get internal breakdown as well.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help identifying a mango type
« on: August 26, 2018, 11:34:35 PM »
Might be Baileys Marvel. A lot of early/mid season stuff held on late due to second bloom this year.

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Bump. Wanted to mention we will stop shipping budwood after September 1st. So that’s your deadline for submitting new requests.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indian Spice Mangos
« on: August 21, 2018, 01:18:58 PM »
This is what the Sunrise looks like here:




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indian Spice Mangos
« on: August 21, 2018, 12:52:13 PM »
Sunrise in my experience is neither a small mango, nor contains discernible fiber. You may have a mislabeled tree.

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I am interested in purchasing some seeds. Please PM when you have availability. Located in CA.

Orange Sherbert is out of season now unfortunately .

Still have sweet tarts though if anyone would rather pay me to eat the fruit rather than sell it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango talk tonight, Treasure Coast
« on: August 16, 2018, 10:18:12 AM »
For anyone interested, I’ll be giving a talk about mangos with discussion about 2018 season and horticultural care to the Treasure Coast Rare Fruit club tonight. Meeting starts at 7pm. The location is at the Port St. Lucie Botanical Garden,
2410 SE Westmoreland Blvd. , Port Saint Lucie, FL.

Last talk of the season  ;D

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Alex, you said that your customers find Carrie and Angie indistinguishable.  How about you?  Do think Angie is as sweet?  (I don't.)

Yes. Angie has compared very favorably to Carrie for me, though I don’t get to eat them as much as I like (they all get sold). Now something to consider is that weather conditions at time of harvest, horticultural practices and harvesting time can all have an impact on a cvs flavor and it may be that Angie is more sensitive to changes in the above.

I’ve found that Indians and Caribbean customers love the Angie and find it a more than acceptable alternative to the Carrie.

If we were to take 5 properly ripened Angie and carries, cut them up and put them on separate unlabeled plates, I feel most people wouldn’t be able to tell which was which.


Alex - I will take your word for it that the ones myself & Sulcata grove have tried may not have been Angie at it's best, but are you saying nobody else has ever said they tasted like cooked carrots?   Thanks.  : )

I’ve never tasted carrot in angie. I have in other mangos though (such as Baptiste and improperly picked Mallika).

I don’t know if the Welsch’s like the Carrie flavor or not, but if they don’t they are almost guaranteed to dislike Angie.

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Alex, you said that your customers find Carrie and Angie indistinguishable.  How about you?  Do think Angie is as sweet?  (I don't.)

Yes. Angie has compared very favorably to Carrie for me, though I don’t get to eat them as much as I like (they all get sold). Now something to consider is that weather conditions at time of harvest, horticultural practices and harvesting time can all have an impact on a cvs flavor and it may be that Angie is more sensitive to changes in the above.

I’ve found that Indians and Caribbean customers love the Angie and find it a more than acceptable alternative to the Carrie.

If we were to take 5 properly ripened Angie and carries, cut them up and put them on separate unlabeled plates, I feel most people wouldn’t be able to tell which was which.

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I think part of the attraction to Carrie is that a lot of people from India simply accept that we don't how to pronounce and write their word "Keri", which is a name for mango!  I often have to explain who it is named after.

We get unrelated indian customers from all over the place who call it “Kari Kari” (two words). Cecil Brumfield apparently doesn’t get these though and his Indian customers just call it by one word.

However Most of the Indian demand for Carrie is due to its flavor profile being the closest to Alphonso that they can get here.

The rest of the Carrie demand is Jamaican/Caribbean and approximately 40-50% of Americans, with the remainder despising it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best mango varieties for high rainfall
« on: August 07, 2018, 10:32:56 AM »
Australians think KP is special because it’s what they know and are raised with, and they’re comparing it to stuff like Palmer, Irwin, Keitt et al. 70 year old, long outdated technology.

It’s like existing in 2018 and comparing a sedan built in 1985 with one built in 1945. “Hey look, my ‘85 has air conditioning and an am/fm radio!”

Kensington Pride makes me want to take a nap.

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Excuse my ignorance, but what does PPK stand for? Thanks.

Po Pyu Kalay, from Myanmar/Burma.  Also called "Lemon Meringue."  My question: Who came up with the name "LM?"  Was it the Zills?

Yes

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Alex - Squam how are your 50ft high Edward mango trees doing these days? They were amazing when I visited in April a few years ago. Obviously before edible mango season, the Edwards wiere loaded with walnut sized. I used the words "mango cathedral"  here and they were. Your Edward grove was quiet. The winds were quiet and it was full loaded.

They actually still have fruit on them now in August, which is quite unusual. They’ve been producing reasonably well this year.

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