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From my experience in NY state, sour citrus..ie. lemons, calondins, will flower and fruit indoors. I have been trying and trying to get tropical fruit trees to flower and fruit indoors. The only time I ever had a mango bloom indoors was when I had it under a 750 watt HPS light. I lost that tree sadly but now I keep all my tropical under 1000 watt HPS and that has seemed to make a huge difference, I have several citrus that are blooming and also with maturing fruits. My Maha Chanok mango is flushing new growth, but I know it's from th3 supplemental light I'm providing.

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A southern exposure is best but still, not sure if it would be enough. My mango trees only bloomed when I could put them outside late spring, early summer. I invested in supplemental lighting, and now I get blooms and growth flushes on all my tropical fruit trees. If your in Mesa Arizona, just placing them outdoors during warm/hot temps should get them to flower and fruit :) Good luck!!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I pugged my mango... is it dead?
« on: January 26, 2017, 06:15:33 AM »
Hi Mangobaby. I lost my mango tree. :( My mother in law was very sick last year. She was hospitalized for 8 months. I lost all my trees due to not being home very often, but I am slowly rebuilding my collection. Right now I have a nice sized Maha that I got a few days after Christmas. It makes me sick because the tree I had, was about 6ft tall and had 4 huge(well huge for me) thick branches. I pugged it again, and it responded very well but I was gone when the growths started after pugging and it died. The tree was fruiting size too. I'm hoping to get a Pickering and a few annonas along with passion fruit and a banana and avocado.
Thanks for asking :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I pugged my mango... is it dead?
« on: January 23, 2017, 02:31:08 PM »
Hello. It's nice to see a grower in a cooler climate! I myself have grown mango trees in a cooler climate. I am in zone 6 so I have to keep my trees in pots. Years ago, I plugged my Maha Chanok during winter. I had it under a HPS light and it did start flushing like crazy. If you can't provide a grow light and heat, then you probably should wait. It is still risky. I would love to see a pic of it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Puerto Rico 2016 trip
« on: August 02, 2016, 08:56:07 PM »
Puerto Rico truly is a tropical fruit lovers dream come true! I've had the pleasure of travelling to Puerto Rico and enjoyed some excellent fruits before! Jay, last year I was actually there the week after you guys went ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Puerto Rico 2015 blog ready
« on: August 18, 2015, 09:41:34 PM »
I had a lot of fun hunting tropical fruits in P.R. I was there from the 30th of July to August 11. I didn't make it to some of the places I wanted to, but I did have family from the island helping me find fruits. It was a great trip. I got to try Rollinia for the first time!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pickering mango.
« on: August 18, 2015, 11:35:08 AM »
I totally understand the risk here but I want to see how large the fruits will grow.
Can someone please tell me approximately how long the fruits would take to mature?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pickering mango.
« on: August 17, 2015, 10:51:19 PM »
I'm in NYSE.I bought it from Top Tropicals. 5 gal pot, maybe 18 inches tall.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pickering mango.
« on: August 16, 2015, 10:56:45 PM »
Hello everybody. I know it's been quite a long time since I have posted here. This year I bought a Pickering mango tree and after it bloomed, the tree held to mangoes. Right now they are about the size of silver dollars. Since I have never had a mango tree that held any fruit, I really have no idea how long it will take for them to mature, if they don't drop first! Can anyone give me a rough idea of how long it will take for them to mature? Also, I remember reading that fertilizing the tree while fruit is on the tree can affect the flavor of the fruits. Should I stop fertilizing? I've been feeding it Foliage Pro and Sea Weed extract. Thanks again for any help!

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I've brought fruit trees from Florida with no issues. My first trip to Puerto Rico I brought home mango fruit, sugar cane, and plantains. I had no problems..I also had several orchids and quenepas. I had to go through USDA and had no problems whatsoever.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My New Maha Chanok Mango tree
« on: January 17, 2013, 03:27:02 PM »
Hi Nancy,
Great looking tree! I just pugged mine a few days ago. The tree was over 6ft tall but has a nice frame work of branches. I have seen it bloom once 2 years ago, and I think it would have bloomed this year but I was afraid by the end of summer it would have been to tall and wide for me to get it indoors.

I need to get a picture of how it looks now. Today I found buds all ready swelling below the stumps.

I wish you the best with your new tree, and I look forward to seeing pictures of it's progress!

Take care,
Andrew

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Just wanted to update my post real quick. My 'Carrie' mango is progressing nicely. I was very surprised to see multiple inflos emerging from the base of the main inflos. So now instead of having 7 inflos, I have around 20! I noticed these dmaller inflos emerging when one of the inflos broke off.

I know that the logic with mango is that the tree will only support what it can, and it wont stress the tree. My thoughts have been since it has taken me so long to get to this point, I wouldn't remove any inflos or developing fruits, but the thought of this tree being stressed really does concern me. IF I had more than a few trees that were all producing inflos and fruits, I wouldn't be so torn on this.

For now, I am going to just let mother nature lead, and if I see that the tree is beginning to stress, I will take action then. By this weekend I think the largest buds will be opening.

OK...last question. I have read many times here that mango flowers do not require pollination. I have actualyl seen the small fruitlets in the center of the flowers. I have also read that people like me who do not live in areas where they can grow in ground, do pollinate them.

So what do I do? Do I just leave them alone, or do I pollinate the flowers?

I just want to make sure I have my bases covered here. I know I sound a little crazy about this but I have not had a mango tree that was this healthy and blooming in years!

Thanks guys for any help you can give me!

Andrew

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Hello everyone,
I just tried emailing Roger Meyer today to see if I could put together an order for a couple cherimoya trees. I googled his name and used the email address that was provided but when  I tried to send the email, it wouldn't go thru. I copied and pasted it so I'm not really sure what was wrong there.

 I am hoping he still does mail order as he has the nicest cherimoya trees and VERY reasonable. If I cannot order from him, can anynoe recommend a nursery that will ship? I am really wanting a 'Honey heart' and last time I checked with Roger, he told me he didn't have this variety. I know this was a few years ago, so maybe now he does have it.

Thank you,
Andrew Scott

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Hi PJ,
I agree with you. I didn't have a hard time finding turface. I bought a bag of that oil dry stuff from Auto zone. In fact, I still have a bunch of it in the shed. As for the crushed granite, that was hard for me to find but again, not finding the Gran-i-grit, I found chicken grit, which, according to the analysis, is the same product. The particle size I would say is about half the size of a pea, or a little smaller than that. What I have had a hard time finding is the fir bark fines. My good friend Laura told me to check out either Pet More or Petco. She said that they sell reptile bedding made out of the pine bark fines. So that will be my next step.

Hi Nancy!
So good to hear from you! I need to send you out an email. Glad to see that your lychee is doing so well, but I feel bad that your mango trees are not so fruitfull. Man, it seems like no matter how your winter goes, you still have a hard time with getting those trees to produce inflos and mature fruits! I still think you have some of the best looking mango "bushes"!

I use your potted 'Glenn' as a guide for how I want my 2 mango trees to look. My 'Maha Chanok' is in desperate need of a good pugging. Want to come up to NY for a few days? LOL...just kidding. I am not at all afraid of pugging my tropical fruit trees. I did tell you how the 'Maha Chanok' came to me bare rooted and also didn't have ANY branches at all.. I whacked that tree back as soon as Frankies told me it was safe to prune. The thing is it was around tthe end of August, beginning of September when I did it. Most people would say it was way too late in the year to prune but I couldn't wait till spring...LOL!

Andrew

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Mail order sources for cherimoya?
« on: April 04, 2012, 08:54:23 AM »
I am looking for nursery that sells grafted cherimoya trees. Years ago I bought 2 from Roger Meyer. I will email him today to see if he can still ship to me or not. I lost both trees from him about 2 or 3 years ago from sooty mold. Very upsetting as both were growing very nicely and my grafted 'Fino de Jete' had actually bloomed for the first time.

I also am interested in purchasing a 'Gefner' atemoya, as I have heard that they are very cherimoya like, and one of the best atemoya you can grow.

IF anyone has any suggestions on where I could order these trees, I would greatly appreciate it, also if anyone has any other suggestions for better cherimoya varieties, please let me know and also why you like that variety. Finding the 'Gefner' I know wont be difficult. If I decide to order a 'Pickering' mano from Plantogram, I may just buy the Gefner from there also.

Thanks,
Andrew

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Hi Lycheeluva,
I have been trying to make this mix for YEARS but trying to find the turface has proven to be one hell of a challenge. I am desperate right now as 3 of my young citrus are starting to go downhill. I did make a version of the gritty mix for my Oro Blanco grapefruit tree and it has thrived but I will say that the oil dry stuff I got(recommended by Al for a turface sub.) didn't hold the water as  you descibe with the turface. I actually was watering that tree daily last summer. I cannot complain though, as you know that citrus are HIGHLY susceptible to root rot.

Right now, I am trying to hurry up and come up with a mix for my struggling citrus. I have a Kishu and Page mandarin, and the other one is a Washington navel. I am really upset as non of these trees were cheap and I don't want to lose them. I think it's really crappy that you cannot buy a soiless mix from the stores.

I assume your citrus are potted in the gritty mix? I have 2 possible locations that might carry the turface. Both are John Deer Landscaping stores.

Thanks Lycheeluva!
Andrew

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Hi Lycheeluva,
I agree with you about keeping saucers under potted mango trees. I am not doing it right now, but I did over the winter last year. Man, I wish I only had to water every couple weeks! I tried this with my Carrie last year, and it almost died on me. The thing is, the soil wasn't even really dry. It was actually moist from the soil surface to the bottom of the pot. Once I started watering every 2 or 3 days, it perked right up, and even started flushing growth.

Same with my Maha Chanok but that tree is almost 5ft tall. The tree needs to be repotted. I water that tree about the same. Every 2 or 3 days and when I water both mango trees, I saturate the root balls. IF I don't they seem to go down hill VERY fast.

This has been my experience with potted mango trees BUT, for the past 2 years, I have had them under my 600 watt HPS light and that makes my ave. room temps around 85 degrees. That has to play into why the need much more water.

I have read that people in FL pot there mango and other tropical fruit trees, into Al's gritty mix. I know that in FL during the rainy season, they can get a ton of rain, and that maybe the reason why the gritty mix works so well. Personally, I think if I used the gritty mix, I would have to water my mango trees daily. The only trees that I would keep in the gritty mix, would be my citrus trees.

What mix do you use for your citrus and mango trees? I cannot wait to see how your Maha fruits turn out. The fruit I tried was EXCELLENT!! I have not had extensive exprience with tasting many diffrent mango varieties.  I did try mangoes in FL from diffrent fruit stands but they were not labelled as to what variety they were. They were all very good fruits but nothing to rave about. I hit Puerto Rico during mango season, and that was awesome to me! Mango everywhere!! I remember buying 8 for $2.00! But nothing so far has beaten, or come clost to the Maha Chanok! I am hoping to be in S. FL around 4th of July so I am hoping I can try some named varieties...especially Carrie considering that from what I hear you either love the fruit or you hate it!

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Thanks Harry. Yeah patience is not always easy but I am keeping my fingers crossed that in another year or 2 i will at least have a few fresh mango fruits. Just enough to be able to enjoy. Supermarket fruits are terrible!

Now I have another couple questions. I remember years ago when I first tried growing potted mango trees, I read that fertilizing during fruit development can affect the fruits flavor? Am I right on this?

I also am concerned with watering Harry. I have read that you shouldn't water a fruiting mango tree but obviously there are going to be times when I have to. 

I thought once the mango trees start blooming, things will be easier but it doesn't seem that way!

Andrew

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Another source for Pickering mangos
« on: April 01, 2012, 06:43:02 PM »
Hi guys,
Looks like Pickering is a real winner. I have been trying to decided on a 3rd mango variety that I could grow in a pot. I have heard planty about how this variety is a great candidate for potted culture.

Swrancher,
Awesome pic of your Pickering! If you could get around 30 fruits off a tree that's under 5ft tall, than I should have no problem with still getting a bunch of fruits on a potted tree.  From what I remember the flavor is described as coconut and pineapple. What's your opinion, and does it have any tartness to it(is the tartness what people call the "twang"?

Thanks,
Andrew

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I was beginning to wonder if I would have any inflos on my 2 mango trees(the other being my 2 year old 'Maha Chanok'.) but as of last night, I have 7 inflos on my 1 year old 'Carrie'. Due to it being so young, and barely being 2ft tall, I doubt that there will be any mature fruits for me to enjoy this year.

It does give me hope, and some reasurrance that I must be doing something right. Now I just hope my 'Maha Chanok' will bloom!

Andrew

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Golden Nuggets Manderin
« on: March 31, 2012, 02:32:08 PM »
Jsvand,
Thanks for your comments on 'Page'. I ordered 3 citrus from Four Winds nursery. I bought 'Kishu', and a Variegated Pink lemon. Harry had mentioned to me before that he really liked 'Page'. Do you think the fruit has excessive seeds? I read on another forum that a few people didn't like it because of it's high seed count.

I think I will have at least 1-2 years before I get to enjoy my first fruit.

Andrew

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: maha chanok Advice
« on: March 30, 2012, 08:55:36 PM »
Yeah I agree. You can clearly see the graft line in the second picture. Off it goes!
Andrew

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: caimito fruit- star apple
« on: March 29, 2012, 03:23:34 PM »
I have had one growing in a pot for three years now. Hardly any growth at all..I got mine from Top Tropicals before I really new anything about them. I wish I would have done my research! LOL.That's all I'm saying.


In the past 3 years, I have had maybe 8inches of good growth and that's about it. It is a nice looking tree. The back of the leaf is nice and shiny.

Lycheeluva, as far as fruiting goes, I think I will be long gone before this tree eber grows large enough to fruit! LOL!

Andrew

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: latest mango/lychee/tangerine pics
« on: March 20, 2012, 10:01:48 AM »
Hey lycheeluva,
WOW! That 'Maha Chanok' fruit looks awesome! i hope that you get them to hold on till maturity...best of luck! I'm really glad you posted this. I have been wondering how a mango would ripen up here in NY state. Obviously our sun isn't as intense and hot as it is in FL...this has to be an issue for proper ripening and sugar content of the fruits.

Have you had a potted mango ripen outdoors before? If so, how did the mango taste?

Last year I met a woman that lives close to me who has an extensive fig collection. We met and swapped a few trees. I gave her a sugar apple seedling and a piece of my 'basjoo' banana. I ended up with 9 diffrent fig varieties. What do you think of the 'Petite Negra'? i've thought about buying this but wanted to get opinions on the production and flavor of the figs.

Jay,
What about you? You must have had many fruits that have ripened outdoors. How was the flavor of the fruits? I'm just wondering if and when my trees produce, if I will end up with sour fruits or not.

I do keep them all in full sun as much as possible. BTW..no further damage to my 'Maha Chanok'. i only lost a few new leaves and that was it. How's your 'Maha' and all the others that you bought from Thailand?

Andrew

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My potted Maha Chanok mango.
« on: March 14, 2012, 09:30:23 PM »
Lol Jay, I hear ya. i should have known better but now our night time temps are supposed to stay in the 50's for at least the next 7 days.

Hi Nancy. Thanks for the warm welcome. I know you have been in my shoes. I wish you the best and hope all your trees are recovering nicely. You have had one hell of  time with them these last few years.

Andrew

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