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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: white sapote in the tropics
« on: October 01, 2018, 06:54:20 PM »
Quote from Axel : Hawaii is 100% tropical, but unlike Puerto Vallarta and other continental-influenced locations, Hawaii has less temperature extremes, because Hawaii is surrounded by water. Luc's N=1 experiment is an example of the wrong variety for his location, however, it's not enough data to conclude that he couldn't fruit them there. But I don't blame him for not pursuing it further, so many tastier things to grow.

Axel ....they did produce , but only reached ' lemon size ' then aborted ...a long way from the Pomello size I collected . For years now I have been thinking of cutting the whole tree down to a stump and graft the local varieties . Problem is it became a majestic tree and would have to be " pruned down " little by little , otherwise it would affect nearby super producing trees ( not talking about other white sapotes ) One day I will do it , because this fruit reminds me of the great white peaches my grandma used to grow .

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: white sapote in the tropics
« on: September 26, 2018, 05:14:30 PM »
It all depends on the variety , I planted seeds collected in the highlands around Mexico City , pomelo size fruit , that was when I just started with tropical fruit ages ago . I planted just one tree ....never got a fruit of it in my climate ( 20 degrees North ) Like Tropicalnut mentioned there are tropical varieties that are really delicious , but even those like a little cold to set lots of fruit or have to be planted at an higher elevation .   

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona graft compatibility table
« on: September 21, 2018, 06:19:55 PM »
i have atemoya on reticulata,

illama on reticulata

reticulata on cherimola

have done atemoya on pond apple

dioica on reticulata

cornifolia on atemoya

all of these worked well, but not sure about long term compatibility...they have lasted for over 1-2 yrs without any set backs, or detrimental anomalies.

I will try to think of more, but honestly, I don't like the table format.

I would rather see each species listed individually, with all of it's known compatible counterparts, including notes about each one if necessary.

I had bad results after a few years with Ilama on reticulata .

Tropical Fruit Discussion / ID request .
« on: September 21, 2018, 06:16:29 PM »
These pictures were sent to me for ID , no further info available at this point  . The local name is Coloc or Kolok , this , according to old Mexican books , refers to Talisia floresii . Grows in the Golf of Mexico Yucatan area . With some luck later I may be able to post pics of a cut fruit , size and flavor ....My first impression is ...some type of sapote ...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cerrado Cashew (Anacardium humile)
« on: September 19, 2018, 06:38:10 PM »
I really do like that fruit , so refreshing , zero astringency ... a few years ago I decided to plant some more , all came up fine and looked great , till like John , I went on a family visit in Europe and put somebody in charge of watering the seedlings , I even put red tags in the humile pots meaning NO WATER , when I came back they where all history 2 weeks ... those were the only ones I lost .

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jatropa
« on: September 19, 2018, 06:10:23 PM »
As a matter of fact I never even ate one of my Akee....

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jatropa
« on: September 19, 2018, 06:07:51 PM »
Mike and all , my tree came from the Morelos area in Mexico , that is where they cultivate the edible variety and my Mexican wife has family there ...I never put it in the ground , is still in a 20 liter paint-bucket attention and this thing is still did flower but I never followed up so I have no idea if a single plant produces ?

As of today I am starting a little black book translating nicknames into who they really are , address etc... Some people are really good ( thank you guys )  at giving their full name and address when placing an order , others are not....also when answering subject .....Basically I am just a collector trying to get a little income once in a while besides my miserable pension . I wonder what real seed sellers like Oscar ( Fruitlovers ) must go trough.....

Here's a ( blurred sorry ) pic of 4 of Raul's ilama he brought back last year ....none has glossy leaves btw.

You are absolutely right Durian Lover .....did I mention the 2 Dobberman 's he has in his garden , they probably won't hurt me but I risk a bullet for trespassing . Also this beetle has already killed 3 majestic palms in my property ( 2 silver Bismarkia and one huge bottle palm , all mature and producing seeds ) Sneaking in and drilling holes to pour Round Up  = that's not an option . I guess my only other option is to sue him but this will turn the whole village against me (  remember I am the outsider / foreigner ) Also , I just thought of this , if the trees ( 2 ) die and fall the wrong way into my land they would crush some more rare trees ....

Tropical Fruit Discussion / How do you kill a full grown cocconut tree ?
« on: August 16, 2018, 06:44:38 PM »
First I need to mention it is in the neighbor's garden so forget the's gotta be discreet ...After trying to talk with him for several years to prune his trees ( I'd even pay for it ) that are destroying the fence I paid for and breaking the trees on my side ( falling dried branches and coconuts ) no results ....  I lost already several of Anestor's rare Eugenias and a row of Abiu trees is constantly broken ....  I talked to the authorities but they don't give a damn . So , I am ready for a ' Black op's ' raid ...

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Out of season Luc's Garcinia .
« on: July 30, 2018, 01:08:27 PM »
I found several out of season fruits on the ground , some of the seeds are starting to germinate , will be send in moist vermiculite . 10 seeds for $ 20 ( USD ) shipping 10 dollars . PM if interested .


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia Article/Presentation
« on: July 25, 2018, 08:02:00 PM »
Nice presentation from Tom Del Hotal. But i agree with Berto...the folks in California are a bit behind the times on their potential for growing great eugenia species. I remember bringing this up with Tom at the Pomona conference a few years ago during the same presentation. And i see he has added a few new species of eugenias to his presentation. I just had Ben Poirier from S. California over and he didn't know what E. candolleana or E. neonitida were. And he's a nurseryman. So Tom is not alone. But i think also there are many other great eugenias out there i don't know about. This is a HUGE genus with over 1000 species, so i guess that's not surprising. There's still a whole lot info out there to be discovered by most of us.

Oscar , ages ago , way before the FB area , I read an article written by Poirier ( I think I remember the name , could be wrong and my apologizes if I am  ) in the internet , the article was about 3 varieties of Eugenia . This article converted me in an Eugenia addict ....I wanted to grow them all....20 plus years later....( I am kinda slow always thinking / hoping things will get better with age ) I finally had to admit that all the Eugenias , and at one time I had a shitload of them , were only good for the back yard growers or the birds . I do agree some are really worth the long wait for the seeds to sprout ....I wont go in know the ones ...Others are a delight , and I am always looking forward to their fruiting season .

It's overrated. It's basically Irwin Mango that originated from South Florida. The only different is they rotate the mango so the mango get sun all 360 degree so that the mango turn red evenly. Just look at this video:

Japanese has the habit of turning regular thing turn into expensive thing, like giving beer to cow and make them super expensive beef etc.

Ahhh, the beef comparison is not a good comparison (and its sake).  You have obviously never tasted high grade true Kobe Beef..

One day I will's on my bucket list

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Marang in California or Florida
« on: July 25, 2018, 07:25:05 PM »
Marang does fruits much faster than Pedalay and the fruit is also a lot larger .

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Who grow Durian in South Florida?
« on: July 25, 2018, 07:22:58 PM »
Well folks , I didn't read all the answers , so I may be contradicting some people . I am at 20 some degrees north , elevation 300 meters , in Mexico . My Durion is doing very well ( not fruiting yet ) but one hour driving up north , there are fruiting durions .

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticaba - ID please?
« on: July 10, 2018, 01:48:07 PM »
Usually in about 30 days , I put a lot of jab. seeds in a zip-lock bag with moist vermiculite , just for a test , they all germinated in less than 30 days .

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Maprang
« on: June 15, 2018, 03:40:13 PM »
Looking for viable seeds for a friend who doesn't speak English , I will pay via paypal . Make an offer .

Try to ask Raul, he have quite a big tree..

Raul's tree and mine have the same age , we collected the seeds when we were in Honduras / Lancetilla . His tree had 2 fruits this year , mine none since I am at a higher altitude .
Anyway thank you all ...problem is solved . 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are mature lychee trees less fincky?
« on: June 10, 2018, 05:59:24 PM »
I have 4 producing lytchees , 2 Brewster at my house and 2 other at the orchard ( one is an air-layer ( Kaimana ) , the other from seed from a huge variety i brought back from Asia )

In general I prune all ( 40 - 50 cm ) every year . One ( Brewster ) in front of my house I have to take it 2 meters down every 2 years otherwise I loose my ocean view , this one will not produce the next year , but plenty the next . A cold winter is always beneficial ....I noticed ...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee: Seed vs Air-layered
« on: June 10, 2018, 05:39:42 PM »
I brought some seeds back from Asia ( ages ago ) the fruits were really huge , about 40 - 50 grams . What a disappointment .....! So I swear by air-layering .

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What are these weird things ?
« on: June 10, 2018, 05:29:47 PM »
These things appeared out of nowhere , 2 days ago when I watered the pots they were not there ....Sorry for the ' out of focus ' I was so nervous I dropped the camera , scared to loose these new very rare jaboticabas . The inside of the first 2 pics was like a dry black dust , didn't see any eggs . I didn't wanna touch the last one with my bare hands never knows ... This started with the first rains .

Tropical Fruit Discussion / What are these weird things ?
« on: June 10, 2018, 04:25:14 PM »
Never seen this before , grows on the plastic , not in the soil , inside is a very fine black powder , kinda looks like a nest of some bug maybe ...

and then this one .....

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Maprang
« on: June 09, 2018, 06:41:50 PM »
Should have them soon.How many does he want?

Let me ask him Oscar .

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pouteria sapote
« on: June 08, 2018, 06:26:13 PM »
Dear friends , even though this is an endemic fruit here in Mexico ( I don't grow it myself because I am not really crazy about the taste and the trees are sooo large  , but I must say there are some varieties that are  " WHOW " )

The question is : How long do these seeds stay alive ....

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Looking for Maprang
« on: June 08, 2018, 06:16:08 PM »
Looking for viable seeds for a friend who doesn't speak English , I will pay via paypal . Make an offer .

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