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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Mexican lemon tree Advice
« on: July 20, 2018, 05:48:33 PM »
LionKing, you need to feed your tree with real fertilizer.  Citrus absorb nutrients in a 5-1-3 ratio, meaning for every 5 parts nitrogen, the tree will also absorb 1 part phosphorous and 3 parts potassium.  From my experience, you can throw away "Superthrive", its pretty much worthless. Citrus are heavy feeders, requiring more nutrition than many plants.  Find a fertilizer with a formula that is higher in nitrogen and potassium that also  contains trace minerals, and feed your tree 4 times during the season.  You should have started a good fertilizer program for your tree last March.  You are starving the poor tree. Good fortune to this trees.

 ;D

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pictures from middle Georgia
« on: July 11, 2018, 01:00:38 AM »
https://mrtexascitrus.weebly.com/citrusfreeze.html

In my experience dekopan, nz lemonade, and valentine pummelo aren't as hardy as
mandarins. A friend had nz lemonade and valentine I gave him of some size freeze at 19F
and killed the trees. He just got dekopan this year. I imported budwood for dekopan to texas
from florida via the texas budwood bureau at great expense. I topworked a swingle root stock to
dekopon this year and it is 8+ feet tall now.

8a means temperatures as low as 10F. 8a is very marginal for in ground citrus without protection.
10F will kill any unprotected citrus tree. I'd suggest in addition to what you are doing you bank the trees with dirt for just in case.

Here in 8b/9a I bank the trees to cover the grafts so the occasional 19F won't kill them to the  ground.
Even at that, last year's 19F freeze defoliated all but the satsumas.

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I can only convey my experience with Meyer lemon from cuttings.  I bought two small cuttings just over 3 years ago and planted them in the ground. I have to protect them in winter. They are now over 8 feet tall and wide and carrying well over a hundred lemons each. I have pruned them many times to maintain a size I can handle, and they need it again. Last year they produced 70 - 90 lemons each...I lost count.
TFN
Lemon are as standard to my table as salt and pepper shakers but still, what do you do with so many lemons?

I have a friend with a mature meyer lemon tree. Every year I pick at least 10 gallons of lemons. I could pick 100 gallons if I wanted! We drink lots of lemonade and make salt preserved lemons.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Omari satsuma leaf distress
« on: June 30, 2018, 11:52:16 PM »
Nitrogen deficiency

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Valentine and Santa Teresa sions..
« on: June 25, 2018, 10:51:59 AM »
Millet your Valentine and Santa Teresa sions grafts are doing very good. They are growing in Rootmaker pots still but will be uppotted probably in late August and going in 15 gl containers. S/t has one fruit left and is getting large.
Btw Millet are you familiar with a orange with this name: Pineapple Orange. A close friend  of mine who live in Texas has a large tree but i do believe Texas is quarantine.

Only parts of Texas are quarantined, the Valley and an area around Houston. I am in greening quarantine.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Sanguinelli Blook Orange
« on: June 24, 2018, 12:01:53 PM »
Yes, but usually only get streaks of red. Tarocco no color most years as it is very late.
With cool winters the get redder but never as red or purple as the fruit from
California.

https://flic.kr/p/27oVv8U

This is smith blood and the reddest I 've ever seen
https://flic.kr/p/LmyipG

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Sanguinelli Blook Orange
« on: June 23, 2018, 09:49:41 PM »
Had my first Sanguinelli Blood orange.  I like Moro Blood oranges, which I see in the stores frequently, but I  rarely ever see Sanguinelli.  I would rate them as just fair to OK, nothing special.  They are a hard peeling fruit.  In my estimation they are not worth growing.  Morro is still king of the bloods.

I've grown moro, sanguinelli, smith blood, and tarocco in the ground. All are excellent. Sanguinelli is later than moro but just as good IMHO. Tarocco is later than sanguinelli.

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Dekopon seeds
« on: June 03, 2018, 08:55:41 PM »
Blood tango fruit is now available in the grocery store. I bought some fruit but
had very few seeds and the 1 or 2 I found I crunched up while eating. The fruit
was fabulous with a very distinctive flavor and dark red color.
They were in the stores in March/April.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: More HLB In California
« on: May 26, 2018, 12:53:50 PM »
This is really terrible news and the beginning of the end of California citrus.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: How long does citrus budwood last?
« on: April 11, 2018, 11:53:36 AM »
I store in damp paper towels/zip lock and check for moldy towel every few weeks.

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I grafted varieties of mandarin 8 buds on single trunk on my planted tree, facing different direction and heights, 3 inches apart. what you think are chances of take? Do you do bud grafting? I want to hear more about bud grafting.

They may take but will they force. the top bud may suppress the lower buds.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: How long does citrus budwood last?
« on: April 07, 2018, 01:01:36 AM »
At least a month if wrapped in damp paper towels and store in the refrigerator and likely a couple months.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: first Indio Mandarinquat
« on: March 25, 2018, 05:16:26 PM »
Someone else commented that they had been growing kumquats and a mandarinquat outside in the ground in Seattle for a 3 years.
"Hybridizing cold hardy citrus to grow in the Pacific Northwest", Matt Hedlund, permies.com forum, beginning of 2018

Please provide link. I'm from Missouri. I think unprotected kumquats and mandarinquats wouldn't survive the prolonged freezes
in the Pacific NW.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Picture request
« on: March 14, 2018, 10:23:57 PM »
I have some 10 xie shan on FD 4 years old. Some are already 5 feet tall.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Planting citrus in a bath tub.
« on: March 07, 2018, 01:31:44 PM »
Raised bed.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Maturity for the best quailty of fruit
« on: March 03, 2018, 08:29:30 PM »
A question I have is what needs to mature for a citrus tree to produce good tasting fruit? is it the root system that needs to develop to the point it supplies the tree with all the necessary nutrients for good fruit or is it the scion growth that needs to mature?
For instance, could you graft on to an older existing tree with a new scion variety and get pretty good fruit in a couple of years?

Fruit quality is an issue in my experience only with mandarins in general and satsuma in particular. I've never had issues with
round oranges or grapefruit even in potted trees only a few feet tall.

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I have an in ground Valentine pummelo.  It is a great tree.
you

How would you describe the taste of the Valentine? Is it acidic at all?

What would compliment my oroblanco better? Valentine or cocktail? Or should I plant those two and forget the oroblanco?

Oroblanco and cocktail are both white.

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I have several remaining Flying Dragon rootstocks left, like to graft several varieties like Pomelo or mandarins onto them, will that work?

yes

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Don't you bank your trees with dirt for freeze protection?

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In the US, I don't think there's a seeded kishu. In China, I've eaten kishu-like mandarins with seeds. That's just the normal one they sell everywhere.

There is a seeded kishu in Texas that used to be grown by citrus enthusiasts.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Dekopon Seeds- True to Parent?
« on: February 28, 2018, 11:04:02 PM »
Yes they are but why bother when you can get a grafted tree? I pulled up
my seedling when I could get the budwood.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Xie Shan Satsuma Trees
« on: February 28, 2018, 11:01:55 PM »
What is the coldest temperature in Montgomery? Satsuma is pretty hardy to 18F.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Xie Shan Satsuma Trees
« on: February 28, 2018, 01:48:35 PM »
Any satsuma is a PITA wait until they start making good fruit. I'd agree 10 years minimum for any satsuma variety in my actual experience. Best fruit I ever tasted
was on a 25+ year old owari tree planted in 1989 grown in sandy soil. I took buds from those trees and grew my own and got lousy, puffy, fruit for 5+ years.

"Too much N has been suggested but I don't believe I did that." I doubt that as well.

By former adviser to Alabama satsuma growers now at Texas A&M:

How to set lots of blooms for citrus fruit quality and thin skinned satsumas
Fertilize with Nitrogen according to tree age and crop load.
Fertilize early, well in advance of blooming
Protect foliage from winter damage to avoid leaf drop.
Prevent injury to foliage by Red Mites,etc.
Water trees diligently from budbreak through early fruit drop.
Fertility
Citrus are evergreen plants & relatively heavy nutrient consumers.
Nitrogen is main element of concern.
Applied annually
Split applications most efficient
Slow-release may be effective in some sites.
Soil & Leaf testing identifies need of other elements.
Collect current-season spring flush leaves in August for leaf analysis
Without testing, use complete fertilizer with minor nutrients
Nitrogen is key
For trees 7+ years old and healthy
Apply 1.0 to 1.5 pounds actual Nitrogen per tree per year
Divide into 2 or 3 doses
60%, 20%, 20%
Valentines Day
Motherís Day
Fatherís Day
In years with poor April Bloom or poor May fruit retention, skip applications 2 & 3.
Use granular fertilizer (no spikes). Broadcast under tree canopy. Water in with sprinklers or rainfall.

Summary of presentation:

satsuma tree must set a heavy crop of fruit for good quality
fertilize heavily according to the slide,1
5 year old tree 5-8 lbs 13-13-13 per year
fertilize 60% before bloom, water heavily
20% mothers day, 20% fathers day.

Satsuma fruit quality:
https://mrtexascitrus.weebly.com/citrusfruitquality.html

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Only ones to have a few seeds are moro and valencia. Some valencias are seedless like midnight.

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