Oh, sorry I meant to write 7b. I'll PM you about the seedlings. Hopefully later this year I'll have edible flying dragon and citsuma fruit on my trees. Then I can offer some seed. Those just might do okay for you too. Clem x Tri x Clem might be worth a shot too but likely would need to be grafted on poncirus.

Top left Swingle citrumelo, top right lemandarin, bottom left TaiTri, small fruit in middle is Glen Citrangedin, Greenish fleshed fruit is (Clem X Trifoliate) x Clem. I really do like the contrast of the orange peel against the lime green flesh. I would consider (Clem X Trifoliate) x Clem an edible fruit in the sense that it is just tart with little to no poncirus off flavors and no resin in the peel or flesh. It makes a good citrus drink, lemon substitute and might be good for marmalade or jelly although I've never tried.

Hi Andrew, my Honey Changsha did recover very well in 2017 but in the winter it somehow died back to the graft again. This year it has come back again and I hope we have a mild winter so I can get fruit next year. My Lemandarin is doing well and bore a few fruit last year. This year it had only two fruit. I have some new Keraji grafts out so hopefully I can get you some seeds finally next year.

For those interested in sampling some hardy citrus varieties I have a good number of Taitri fruit available. I can send a box of about 10 taitri fruit for $10 priority mail. I have a few Glen citrangedin, thomasville citragequats, yuzu and poncirus x clementine x clementine and maybe a Swingle citrumelo or two left. Shipping costs may vary depending on the variety. Various small seedlings available also.

Nice detailed post. Thanks for the comparison!

Swamp lemon fruit (left) compared to regular trifoliate (right). Basically indistinguishable tastewise, sizewise etc.

Great story and guava tree. It's very fortunate you were able to save a 'pup' so this special tree can live on. Thanks for sharing!

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3-3 overall tree growth is similar to 2-2 but my 2-2 was slightly more vigorous. 3-3 fruit is very juicy, looks tasty and has a more tightly adhered rind than 2-2 but 3-3's flavor is terrible even for me who has grown a lot of hardy citrus. It has too much of a kerosene/skunky flavor. I grafted over my 3-3 years ago. 2-2 is way better fruit in terms of hardy citrus flavor and is indeed a earlier ripening fruit. It is just sourish until fully ripe then it is okay. Keraji, MIC and Lemandarin are levels above either 3-3 or 2-2 if you are able to grow them.

I should have a couple fruit this fall or could spare a small scion.

I have a self fertile Che if you are interested.

Functional and ornamental! Two thumbs up!!