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This Coconut Cream seedling was fine all winter. Now all of sudden the tips look like they have been painted with black tar.

Yes, I will third that.

I think Adam has finally found his feet and is churning out good content that is pertinent to the topic at hand.

But things were a little piloso a while back. He was dabbling in all kinds of side-entertainment and political commentary, also encouraging people to bet money on Hillary to make a surprise return to the presidential race.

Stay focused, you homesteading hombre, and you can't go wrong. Keep your eye on the olho do boi, and your gift of the gab on the jab.


Hey 'Banus, what do you think the leaves here are suffering from? Not many on the tree, but here and there.

Thanks Guanabanus. Do I have to spray the foliage too? Because the Kwan's leaves seem to be completely unaffected by powdery mildew... though I am not sure if they can still covertly harbor the fungus that then ravage the flowers.

My Kwan mango gets powdery mildew every year. I have thought about using mancozeb, but it is quite toxic. Also, the product labels never mention treating mango and when I asked the manufacturer they said they don't know.

I have since read that home remedies are quite effective: 60% milk solution or bicarbonate solution or vinegar solution. Anyone have success with these? I also read neem oil works on powdery mildew, however it is not supposed to be sprayed on flowers. But that is exactly where powdery mildew starts in mangoes...

By the way, which Annona is this one from your post? This is not Annona salzmannii, for sure.

It's Erdon Lee lychee. The image is actually part of his forum signature, so he did not mean it to be relevant to this thread.

By the way, is Beach araticum's outer shell tough enough to avoid fruit flies laying eggs?

Perhaps you were thinking of Plinia clausa, or Plinia valenciana? Though some of these species in the genus could be renamed soon. Because if Aline Stadnik has her way, a good deal of jaboticabas will become Guapurium. Then the Prince of Plinia will just be the Geek of Guapurium.

The varietal names really are getting over the top. Ruby this, velvet that... and children don't ever google peluda (hairy). Personally I'm still holding out for the Diamond 'n Silk jaboticaba.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jumbo Cantaloupe
« on: August 21, 2020, 09:53:06 PM »
Only in Victoria do they call it cantaloupe because, well, they have always been Australia's snobs. Well, maybe they use the term in Tasmania too, because when cousins marry they can't elope.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Crispy jackfruit
« on: August 21, 2020, 09:35:22 PM »
I prefer the terms turgid, flaccid and plasmolyzed.

Hi fermamo2002.

It would really help if you gave a description of what this fruit tasted like, because it is fairly unknown to the West. I think I saw some really nice photos you uploaded on FB, that nice bloody-jam interior would be good to see here. Uploading photos can be a bit tricky on this forum, the easy way is to hit the text "Add image to post" not any of the icons.

Another thing: The genus in question can be quite confusing, as there is Dacryodes macrocarpa and Dacryodes microcarpa. There was also a D. macrophylla but this was renamed to Pachylobus macrophyllus. What you have written matches none of the above. It would be good if you could figure this detail out.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Grapevine in shade
« on: August 02, 2020, 12:35:17 AM »
Is it possible to ripen grapes if the bunches are in the shade and just the leaves are getting sun from above? I have a narrow area blocked off from morning and afternoon sun. So just sunlight from above would hit the overhead trellis. But it would still be a good number of hours.

I have seen trees 3-4m tall in Cairns and, truth be told, they resemble an ugly citrus to my eye.

Edit: More accurately, the foliage reminds me of pomelo.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: July 22, 2020, 08:22:50 AM »
I did this avocado graft in the Fall and it pushed out some leaves, but I guess I removed the tape too soon. Although it was never as bad as it is now. Is this salvagable? Will it heal long term?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Black Limes Platter
« on: July 20, 2020, 08:03:16 AM »
Been experimenting with black limes and would highly recommend this method of storage, especially for those in cold climates where the season is short. They have an amazing ability to rehydrate and pass on a complex lime flavor to any soup or stew. I am yet to try the famous black lime tea or sour drink, but will give it a go.

I was about to suggest AtRacTOCARPUS fitzalanii based on the thread title

Viable seeds wanted.
Katy, Goldkist and hybrid of two if this should be available.
PM me please.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / ID help
« on: June 01, 2020, 12:19:32 PM »
Appreciate knowing even just the genus of this.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / French translator required
« on: June 01, 2020, 12:01:47 AM »
If there is anyone fluent in French who would like to volunteer a little translation, I am interested to know the characteristics of Eugenia michelii as described here: It is number 27. Pretty much just interested to know what the fruit are like, and how to differentiate from E. uniflora.

Update: Thanks to the person who PM'd me a transcription, which I was able to use in Google Translate. It reads "The fruit is a globose berry, slightly torose or with rounded sides, red in its maturity, crowned by the calyx, and which contains, under a soft flesh, slightly acerbic and refreshing. a globular and monosperm nucleus."

It seems to be the same as E. uniflora. The name is invalid, even though it may show as valid in some databases.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado 24/7 Thread
« on: May 25, 2020, 12:56:22 AM »
What is considered an abnormally large leaf for avocado? I have an unknown seedling that is 1 metre in height and one of the leaves is 33cm (13 inches) long. There was previously shade cloth on the sun-side to block harsh summer sun, maybe this caused it?

I wish I knew whether the ancestry was Mexican or Guatemalan the former having leaves that can be processed as a food additive or to brew tea. Guatemalan leaves are apparently toxic.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit problem
« on: May 19, 2020, 02:07:59 AM »

This is a nangka mini seedling. Any ideas? Drainage is good.

A good jackfruit separates the men from the boys, the alphas from the betas, the sheep from the goats, the players from the pretenders...

Limoncillo is the name in which this tree is found and this is what it should be called.

Cop, that was a rather laconic assertion. You do not live in an English-speaking country, and this is an English speaking forum discussing name possibilities. If this is a forum that wants to promote globalism, fair enough, but actually names like "lemon drop mangosteen" for Garcinia intermedia are already firmly established in the English-speaking world and that was not my decision.

I doubt you know every single epithet in every single locality of Mexico. Maybe it is also found in Guatemala? You haven't provided any academic resource, while I provided one showing 14 different names, of which Limoncillo was listed 4th.

By the way, here is another academic resource:
The epithet "limoncillo" is also used for the following species: Agonandra excelsa, Agonandra peruviana, Swartzia simplex var. continentalis, Ximenia americana and others. Why should English-speaking countries honor the Spanish name, when the modern Mexican population does not honor the indigenous? I think it should take more than yellow rind and some acidity to start comparing to a lemon...

Thank you for your input Raul. I still don't favor this name "limoncillo" - perhaps some locals adopted it but it remains a Spanish pidgin term.

Just recently, I discovered a Mexican online encyclopedia which helps with indigenous names. The thing is, this resource considers Garcinia intermedia lumped together with Luc's, but anyway the epithets are clearly shared. There exists both Nahuatl and Mayan names for this, although they are quite strange.

Funnily, one prominent name is "Chichi de mono." Well, this is listed under Spanish, but it is actually a hybrid term. The word "chichi" is adopted from the indigenous, and means "to suckle" so that this name translates to "monkey suckle". Yes, I am aware that this word "chichi" was adapted to have multiple meanings, including referring to babies, breasts and even more vulgar terms.

Calling all Big Islanders. As far as I know, April is yellow sapote season. Hoping someone can sell seeds of this cv., should be somewhat easier to deal with than scions.

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