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It looks like a mixed flush/bloom but is under stress. The new leaves have not hardened & tend to droop especially in water stress.
You might notice less stress in morning which would indicate it needs water.
Tree will be happier with competing grass removed out 3 feet or so and some mulch to conserve water and keep soil temp lower.
Removing fruit on a small tree might put energy into canopy and root growth. 3-4 mangoes such a young tree might produce might only cost a few dollars to buy and allow tree to reward you with larger crops faster.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jabo pruning advice
« on: March 15, 2019, 06:51:12 PM »
Adam Shafran of Flying Fox Fruits demonstrates how to properly prune a jaboticaba tree.

The goal is to remove the smaller branches, to encourage the caulis to be exposed to more sunlight.

First we prune a Myrciaria trunciflora, and then a Myrciaria aureana.

Take part in the discussion about this video, on the Tropical Fruit Forum.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / 53+ pineapples fruiting now
« on: March 13, 2019, 06:50:02 PM »
The cold weather this year has stimulated a very good fruit set on my pineapples.
Here is a video:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: is this guava grafted?
« on: March 12, 2019, 05:24:18 PM »
I just bought organza bags for guava. 6x9 inches for 15 cents each. That size should be OK for the clusters of 3 fruit which I hope to get, they are flowering that way.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Inga???
« on: March 10, 2019, 08:03:12 AM »
Yes, looks like Inga. This is in Hawaii? That is not an uncommon tree and primates do spread seeds!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit Youtube Channel Recommendations
« on: March 09, 2019, 07:24:38 AM »
Noal Farm fruit and Vegetable farming videos:

Grow, pick, prepare and cook fruits and vegetables in Hunnan:

You don't use it when they are flowering. When dealing with the myriad of pests we have in this horrid Ag zone there is no such thing as too powerful of a pesticide. You will find out shortly what I mean. Imadacloprid is pretty much manditory
I've only needed Imadacloprid for citrus leafminer, once. No other fruit trees at my place have needed it. It is a neonicotinoid which is hard on bees. So long as my trees continue to grow and increase in size I can tolerate some leaf damage.

Respectfully I don't exactly understand what you're trying to accomplish.  On their own soursop branches elongate and tend to droop down.  It would seem to me that your fruit, which are naturally large and heavy, might be practically on the ground when ripe.
Every fully grown tree I have seen has grown almost vertical and fruit is quickly out of reach.
Here is an example:
If you can show me a photo of a naturally drooping soursop tree I'd be interested in seeing that.

This is an exception:
Observe the growth habit shown here which is about the best I have seen. He doesn't go into early training but shows pruning to eliminate the apical dominance. You can see he has stopped vertical growth over 8 feet:

Those hose end fertilizer sprayers work by the venturi effect when water is restricted it creates a suction for the solution. So you will need a high pressure pump to make them work. Maybe you could use the low pressure pump and begin with low fertilizer concentration plants then medium concentration plants and finish up with the highest concentration plants. It would require stops to add more fertilizer but only require labor no purchase or modification.

This pump will probably work for you, read reviews people use it to wash campers and pump stuff it probably makes enough pressure for you.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing Habit: Cherry of Rio Grande
« on: March 03, 2019, 08:31:18 AM »
I'm putting in several of these from seedlings, and enjoyed the small fruit close to the cherry range.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Experiment to control Soursop Growth habit
« on: March 02, 2019, 10:53:45 PM »

Sorry the video ends abruptly my battery ran low but you get the idea.

I think Spaugh you are growing Tithonia Rotundifolia. It has softer leaves and seeds prolifically.
This is the diversifolia. Lives for years develops a stump one foot in diameter.
He is exagerrating the nitrogen but it can be 1% and does concentrate phosphorus.

If you just want a good looker and no fruit how about mexican sunflower (tithonia diversifolia)?  It grows really fast and large and makes tons of flowers.  It stays green all year and is completely dense so you cant see through it.

You can start ot from seed and have big 10ft tall plants in a year.

The Tithonia diversifolia we have here in Florida is close to sterile. I have hundreds and never get any making viable seeds. Strikes very fast from basal cuttings 1" or more in diameter which have adventitious roots. Just stick in the ground during rainy times and they start growing. That is how I made a 350 ft. long hedge. Can cut 3 times/year or more for self-mulching hedge.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What plant is this?
« on: March 01, 2019, 07:35:29 AM »
Orange and lemon is so common you could find a tree and layer it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona pruning concepts
« on: March 01, 2019, 07:32:24 AM »
I'm not familiar with northern greenhouse culture of tropicals but do know that Soursop here in Florida will defoliate here below 40F after a windy cold front. If not much below that they bounce right back in warmer weather with a fresh flush of leaves. Thinking about that it could be a strategy to build a canopy according to your will. Not sure how that woud work with other annonas.

Soursop is an incredily tough tree when it comes to regrowth. It also tends towards vertical growth rather than a spreading or bushy form. However, it can be trained into a lower form with weights on branches and pruning more vertical sprouts.

six feet should last you for awhile. If you use the landscaping stones I suppose in years to come you could reset the stones at a larger diameter. I think that avocado has some deep roots for stability but definitely a fine feeder root system.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado 24/7 Thread
« on: February 28, 2019, 06:34:08 AM »
I understand about Mexico's production but also that Aldi has a long standing use for certain fruits as "Loss Leaders" to get customers in the door.

My wife used to always take the Aldi sale sheet to Wal Mart and use their price match policy to cherry pick every loss leader in town.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black patches on my avocado
« on: February 27, 2019, 07:09:12 AM »
Check anthracnose. I see that the infection is near the bottom of fruit which is logical for rain spread infections. Hopefully you know when they are ready to ripen. Often anthracnose appears post-harvest. Avocados don't ripen on the tree you might try picking and watching for a week or so.

Last time I went to Diamond R they told me they had dropped that fertilizer so I found another supplier who delivers.
Howard Fertilizer is statewide.

No, the one pictured was planted two years ago. The one we traded last year has done very well and doubled in size. It is currently flushing beautifully colored leaves and is about 2 feet high.

Interesting thread. I ate two Cambuca fruit yesterday and planted the seeds. Both fruits were ripe and had split across the bottom until the seed was being pushed out but it had no flies or any rot, very tasty fruit. There are two trees on my neighbor's place, I began dumping used potting soil under them last year and the tree has responded with a few fruit. No one knew what it was and it hadn't fruited for years.

check with Howard Fertilizer.
8306 S Orange Ave
Orlando, FL 32809
Phone: 407-855-1841
Manager: Jeff Cotton

I have had great results with a fertilizer they carry, Nutricote which is mainly for the nursery container trade. I am using it because it is a true 100% slow release fertilizer with micronutrients. Most others which are called slow release are only partially slow release and lots of that can be lost during the rainy season. I use the Nutricote Total 18-6-8  with micronutrients in a 180 day formulation.
It has been ideal for new trees and I did apply to an older set of avocado trees and it turned them right around to productivity.
Last cost was $57 for 50 lbs. Store it cool and dry maybe in a sealed bucket.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango Grove in bloom 2019
« on: February 26, 2019, 07:52:19 AM »

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