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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: Today at 07:12:23 PM »
My neighbor has a DF likely over 20 years old which is growing on a tall Flame/Flambouyant/ Royal Poinciana tree (Delonix Regia) here on Pine Island, Lee County, SW Florida. The DF is nearing full bloom and is every bit as flowerful on the far side. It is a white fleshed variety rather plain in taste.

A correction the fruit and tree shown in my previous post has been identified as Pitomba.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A wealth of different types of Uvaia
« on: July 14, 2018, 06:54:09 PM »
Here are pictures of fruit and branch. The tree lies partly inside a chicken pen and I couldn't find a good angle to get the whole tree in focus. I found the fruit sweet enough to eat out of hand not sour.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A wealth of different types of Uvaia
« on: July 13, 2018, 10:15:39 PM »
I was lucky enough to see and taste a fruiting Uvaia tree at my neighbor's property here in SW Florida yesterday. Very good fruit, single seed, about 1 inch (25mm), very juicy and apricot/tangerine/very mild slight resin aftertaste.
Fruit looked like this:

It hadn't fruited for several years but after chickens were kept nearby and irrigation run it has fruited. It is multi-trunked and about 8 ft high, in close proximity to a Surinam cherry, and in partial shade. I will take some photos.

Red Lady and Kapoho Solo are good.
I agree about Red Lady. Good dwarf trees, best tasting papaya I've ever tried. .
You can buy very good quality seeds here, high quality perfect germination, easy to grow.
Out of 100 seeds planted so far none were male, all either female or hermaphrodite.
This one is on my table at the moment almost ready

I'd like to know more specific info. Sounds like the possibility of at least two different substances or a synergy at play, and how do we know if/which bacteria or some other substance is doing the work? There are many confounding factors in this beginning with soil and onward through too many variables to count. Still, I love to consider non-toxic DYI solutions.

Also, lack of patent protection could mean that the purported cold resistance could not be documented adequately to satisfy patent protection.  The site doesn't explain if the cold resistance has resulted in improvements in any specific areas of germination, growth or fruiting. In other words, they might be hyping which is my suspicion.

I planted two of these last year. I was worried when the first growth flush came out as it was such a light green color. I was sure the tree had adequate moisture and fertility and have come to realize that new growth flushes in this species can be expected to have very light green leaves until they harden off. Agree with what others here have said but it does look like great flowering. Just wanted to add about very light green flushes I experienced.

This tree grows all over very wild in the drier islands of the Caribbean. I tried it a few times but in my opinion it isn't worth very much effort to grow there are far better fruits out there. We cut them down at Christmas for their red berries as ornamentation.

They are not very specific about the cold tolerance of those plants, especially considering the high price. Good luck to anyone who buys one! Bananas can multiply so fast if their claims are true the price must come down very soon.

I've heard about marigolds. I also understand high organic matter is also helpful.

Here is a picture of one teepee of my purple alata. These were from cut tubers I had grown last year. I cut and dusted them with wood ash, dried then planted them out. The second picture shows the structure which made the teepee, it is a steel t-post made for fencing driven in deeply with a stout bamboo extension tied on. The twine is a very strong fiber reinforced plastic twine used for baling hay which is secured to treated wooden stakes. The second one shown has  vining winged beans growing up. These structures are scattered throughout a 1/4 hectare planting of 50 young mango trees with banana, plantain, papaya, cassava, capsicum, sweet potato, eggplant, various greens, herbs and flowering plants, even some cotton, pigeon peas, peanuts & assorted legumes and a few plants I am just trying out. The beds are mounded, topped with compost and everything is thickly mulched.
All of my collection of yams was planted this way, two of purple alata, two of ordinary white alata, one of yellow yam and one of D. trifida.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Honda wood chipper ?.
« on: July 07, 2018, 07:33:45 AM »
I'd be very skeptical of that machine for hard steady use. It might be OK for a homeowner who would use it once a year to clean up leaves and twigs. It is a hammermill shredder not really a chipper. Be aware you may have to physically push the material in and unless it has a side chute you will be lifting it vertically. NEVER buy one of these machines without actually watching one work in action at least in a video. The dealer should be willing to show you one in action. Even some videos are deceptive there is a big difference between a fresh green softwood branch and a piece of hard dry oak. Don't expect to chip palm fronds with anything but the commercial machines they are very fibrous. Don't expect to feed vines they get wound up and you have to stop dismantle and unclog machine. Don't expect to chip very soft wet material like papaya, moringa, or mombin they are usually too wet to pass and will clog up. Wheels look very narrow on this model may be hard to move in soil or sand.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Manilita Peak Harvest Day
« on: July 06, 2018, 06:06:24 PM »
Second year for me Manilita is my earliest variety. Yes, it does have a jello-ey consistency when let to get fully ripe and very soft. I've found I like them best a little firm and not fully soft. For me as soon as the fruit ripens it starts to drop from the tree and all fruit comes down within 2 weeks. In future years I need to harvest quicker once the very first fruit gets ready, but we have enjoyed these as you would expect after a long wait for mangoes.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When To Prune Mulberry Tree?
« on: July 05, 2018, 08:39:22 AM »
I've just planted a mulberry in a good full sun out of the way location with plenty of room. The intention is to bend a few well spaced long main branches down with weights to create a low spreading weeping form the first season. Every year afterwards one or two branches can be cut back further to replace the canopy over time.

I've seen someone install fiberglass flag rods like golf carts use on their riding mowers to help knock down webs when underway.

My question is, where does all that web come from??? I somehow got a small garden spider indoors and then moved it out to the porch, where it tried to take up residence. Little did it know I'd be inadvertently messing up all its hard work every time I went out on my porch to have coffee, check on/water plants, etc. And sure enough, the next day there'd be a whole lot of newly spun web to get messed up by me.

So how does a little spider kick out that much web?! How?!?!?! On a side note, maybe a well-placed spider web can help with the leaf hoppers you mention in another post?
Spider webs are made of proteins mainly glycine and alanine. They have silk glands which extrude the silk.
Very interesting when viewed in an electron microscope:

many orb weavers re-consume and thus recycle their silk.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where To Buy These Plant Processors
« on: July 04, 2018, 08:19:06 AM »
With the advent of legal marijuana small scale oil extraction equipment is pretty common. Purchasing that stuff may put you under fed scrutiny though  :o

If you know someone handy with mechanical & plumbing a still can be built.

This was a good source for winged bean seeds, they germinated well and are up 3-4 feet. I seeded direct.
Winged bean can be long-day short day or day neutral. She sells day neutral but they tend to flower better as days become shorter in northern hemisphere fall.

This video shows how she grows in Florida. She did quite a bit of careful pruning to focus growth on flowering instead of vine growth which resulted in more fruiting lower on the vines.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to pick Mallika mango?
« on: July 02, 2018, 06:52:19 PM »
Some Mallika picked to day had absolutely no sap flow when picked. Now you don't know the result till you do the deed but has anyone found that result to be indicitive of ripeness?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seeking avocado Id's
« on: July 02, 2018, 08:21:48 AM »
Wurtz does not turn black.

The last picture/tree, is the skin smooth and shiny?
Now that I look at Carlos' description of Mexicola I can say that is likely the first tree.

On the last tree, the skin is slightly bumpy and shiny. I will be picking some today to see seed shape/size.
Any hints what variety to look for?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kiwano
« on: July 01, 2018, 08:42:12 PM »
I grew this for the first time in Florida during wintertime. The climate is fairly temperate but does get to 90F degrees some days. There was almost no rain and irrigation was by sprinklers. Growth was quick and became rampant, but under the heavy foliage most young fruits which set rotted until the vines began to run across open ground and the fruits held. The ones which ripened had many hard seeds and taste was like cucumber, and had very hard sharp spines someone with tender hands would have trouble even holding one. Eventually when summer temps and rains began the vines quickly died. It would have been better to grow these in full open sun on dry ground but with drip irrigation. They can cover ground quickly, but the taste was so bland I won't repeat something like pumpkin would be a better use of space.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seeking avocado Id's
« on: July 01, 2018, 08:02:36 PM »
The last tree is average to large in size, fruit does turn black.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seeking avocado Id's
« on: July 01, 2018, 07:57:59 PM »
The third tree is average in size and all the fruit are close to spherical in shape. Could this be Choquette?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seeking avocado Id's
« on: July 01, 2018, 07:54:24 PM »
The second tree is average in size but the fruit is distinctive in the way the stem attaches to the fruit. The stems come out of the fruit offset from center and thus the fruit hangs at an angle to the stem.

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