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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting mango varieties
« on: August 05, 2020, 08:49:11 PM »
Tommy Atkins
Why you say that?

Was a joke come on

 Not sure about such a joke, a properly ripened Tommy Atkins may just very well be better than a Graham.

Did you plant a tommy atkins tree in your yard rob?

Ha!  Nope, and no Graham, Carrie or Julie either.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: asian grocery store fruit haul
« on: August 05, 2020, 08:47:52 PM »
The sugar apples did start softening up, I just ate two of them.  They are very good, much more like cherimoya than I was expecting.  I actually like the "sugar cookie" texture of the area near the rind more than cherimoya.  If these are bad specimens I am looking forward to trying highly rated types.  The cherimoyas I've eaten were from grocery stores, from California I assume.

Cherimoyas from grocery stores are from South America and are the equivalent of a store bought Tommy Atkins.  You need to try a fresh picked and ripened Pierce, El Bumpo, Campas, Orton, etc. from California.  You will have a whole different understanding and perspective of annonas.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting mango varieties
« on: August 05, 2020, 06:25:30 PM »
Tommy Atkins
Why you say that?

Was a joke come on

 Not sure about such a joke, a properly ripened Tommy Atkins may just very well be better than a Graham.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting mango varieties
« on: August 05, 2020, 05:30:04 PM »
Graham....🤢💩🤦‍♂️


Ok thank you next Graham! Thank you fro sharing that!
Chris Wenzel (Truly Tropical) says underripe Graham is good to excellent, and is a good substitute for Julie in Florida. DO NOT EAT THEM TOO RIPE!  Rob, do you hate Julie, too?

Saying an underrippe fruit is excellent is a problem right there.  A good fruit speaks for itself.

Julie is better than Graham and Carrie.  There are far better mangoes than all three.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: asian grocery store fruit haul
« on: August 05, 2020, 03:20:33 PM »
Bad durian has bad taste (read as inferior variety or seedling of inferior variety).  There are high quality varieties that have superior flavor (still may not be for everyone) without the onion/rotten trash component.  Wouldn't waste time planting seeds if quality was bad to begin with

Those SAs may never ripen.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting mango varieties
« on: August 05, 2020, 11:27:40 AM »
Graham....🤢💩🤦‍♂️

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: asian grocery store fruit haul
« on: August 05, 2020, 10:31:36 AM »
I would eat those mangosteen asap before they go south.

Depending on the variety and how long ago it was picked (assuming its truly fresh), that durian may be no better, possibly worse, than a quality frozen durian.

Those are some tiny sugar apples and they dont look too fresh.  At that size, they may just be a pile of seeds inside.

Dont mean to be a Debbie Downer, just saying what is facts..

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I have not done this in Pinellas but have been involved in other Counties in Florida.  There are usually a required native tree list (the Counties I have dealt with) and a list of unapproved trees.  Yes, you will need to submit a plan for approval and they will inspect (or at least they are supposed to).  Someone somewhat recently posted a landscape architect contact who had knowledge of fruit trees.

You should also check as most Counties also have a minimum height for the trees.  They dont want a yard full of scrawny trees for new construction plantings.

Yes, the initial planting will not be cheap.

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Fruitscapes

Echo in Fort Myers

Aaron, a forum member in the Fort Myers area,  has some nice fruit trees also.

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Macadamia...Its a tree but a true specimen.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Planting Miracle fruit tree - help!
« on: July 26, 2020, 07:02:29 PM »
Oh, come on guys.  DirtDiva was sharing her experience, and the topic drifted off the question that MotherOfDragonfruit was posting about and turned into a "snipe-fest". 

EVERYBODY is learning about something, and NOBODY knows everything about everything.

Lots of folks on this forum know LOTS about plants, but we need to practice a little kindness, too.  Snarkyness is never constructive.

 - Carolyn
the problem is that people are ignorant . they think they know it all has to be done their way don't know it's about the experience growing as well and joy it can bring to someone . It pretty much made it as a little bonsais pretty cool something similar


Pot stirring dumbass.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red Emperor Mango
« on: July 26, 2020, 05:54:39 PM »
I love how the beginning he talks about safety precautions and going through the checkpoint and all is about safety. Next shot as he walks through the market, he is keeping his chin from spreading the virus.

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If you see landscape companies doing an install, stop and ask about the pots.  Many times they will give them away and at the very least, would sell for pennies on the dollar.

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I prefer the taste of E-4
I have heard that E-4  has a longer flavor window then M4. I hope M4 is not difficult to determine when to pick for Peak flavor as others have said about peach cobbler.

Any of the "green skinned mangoes" can be tricky and take practice till you lear tge right harvest time.  If grown near the ciast, some will show a color change but inland, other than a slight lightening of the green coloration, there is no obvious visual mechanism.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Season for some Gary Zill mangos
« on: July 26, 2020, 12:00:49 PM »
As to Peach Cobbler, I cant comment on if it truly need more cold stimulus to flower.  I do know that the trees due need to have more maturity to them before the set fruit, approximately 4-5 years.  At my old house, my tree set its first crop, albeit small, at four years of age.  The following year it set a very nice crop.

It does seem to not be affected by MBBS.

**edited to correct the word "mate" to "more" in front of the word maturity**

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So Mark is showing his Texas grown mangoes that are grown in a GREENHOUSE. 

Here are some mangoes griwn in Florida on trees that are planted in the ground with no greenhouse

Mahachanok


Taralay


E4


Providence


Karen Michelle


Cotton Candy


Dupius


Sweet Tart


Lemon Zest


Fruit Cocktail



Aint THEY purdy.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: my carambolas are flowering !!
« on: July 26, 2020, 07:22:48 AM »
I have a honey bell setting flowers.

I think you mean a Bell.  A Honeybell is an orange, well a tangelo to be precise.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Planting Miracle fruit tree - help!
« on: July 25, 2020, 07:35:08 PM »
Bullie

I guess you didn't read my post .... I just fed chelated iron and holly tone  new growth coming and it is getting greener daily !


Thats a bandaid for the problem...

That shape pot (and especially  terra cotta ) are not a re commended pot for any tropical fruit trees.  Using the same soil for 3 years in the same pot is also not good.

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We haven't heard from MangoFang in Palm Springs in more than two years, but he seemed to always describe his mangos as intensely flavored.  I believe his LZs were sublime.  Makes sense--the dry, desert heat.

Hence my comment about opinionated.   Did you ever hear anyone say they had a crop of lousy, inedible mangoes (or any other fruit for that matter)?

There are some excellent mangoes grown in the San Diego area and the quality has been confirmed by a South Floridian who's opinion would be extremely well accepted (no, its not me lol).  The harvest is however somewhat inconsistent due to the variability of the Cali climate.

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Depends on who you ask (people tend to be very opinionated) and who is growing them.  Their season is different than ours.  They have different disease issues than we do (no MBBS but they can have a PM issue and they cannot grow on Turpentine rootstock for the most part).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Planting Miracle fruit tree - help!
« on: July 24, 2020, 10:13:16 PM »
Those leaves are mighty yellow.  That pot is not optimal due to its shape.  I guarantee that plant would benefit from a larger pot and fertilizer.

I have seen a number of miracle fruit 5 - 6 feet tall and close to 5 feet wide.  The biggest in pots were in 25 gal pots.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Planting Miracle fruit tree - help!
« on: July 24, 2020, 05:00:25 PM »
Perhaps it's not the pot. I know that they can do great in a 7 gallon pot for the rest of their lives. They really are better of in pots. I don't really know what else to say as I'm not that experiences with miracle fruit, but like I said they can grow perfectly in a container so you should look at the other aspects of how you are growing it.

Hope this helps.

They cannot live in a 7 gal pot the rest of their lives.  They can get a decent size for a shrub, and would require a far bigger pot as they age.

If planting in ground, treat them as a blueberry but they will need a shady location.  They will not be happy in direct sun.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Season for some Gary Zill mangos
« on: July 24, 2020, 09:35:53 AM »
E-4 (I dont like the name Sugarloaf) for the most part is a mid season where the month of July is its sweet spot.  I have seen it ripen in the later part of June and the early part of August.

Thanks a lot Rob!  That's what I was hoping.  I planted Guava as my early, E4 as my mid season, and Venus as my late(r)..tough finding a late season one that produces reliably, resistant to MBBS, with exceptional taste (Venus will get MBBS but at that point I'm hoping other late season varieties may be available to graft on my tree).

Venus is not super kate.  More like an August fruit (I have seen them ripen at various time, some even in July).  There is not much that is a true late late mango that rings the bell as having the "wow factor."  For an August fruit, I would go with Peach Cobbler.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Season for some Gary Zill mangos
« on: July 24, 2020, 12:32:40 AM »
E-4 (I dont like the name Sugarloaf) for the most part is a mid season where the month of July is its sweet spot.  I have seen it ripen in the later part of June and the early part of August.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Banana Harvest Question
« on: July 24, 2020, 12:27:22 AM »
Not recommended.

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