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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Zill adventure Tuesday
« on: Today at 05:50:54 PM »
Quote from: Cookie Monster on Today at 05:17:46 PM
I got to try creme brulee. It was fantastic. The seed is very obviously polyembryonic, but does anybody have budwood?

E4 was also good, but I thought the creme brulee was better. Both seem like close relatives to the coco cream, but oddly I don't remember coco cream being polyembryonic?

E4 is Pettigrew and Gary
Coco Cream is Edward and Gary

Creme Brulee is an Edward seedling I believe.   Not sure if Gary was the pollen donor or not.  If Ibrecall, it is not a very good bearer...and I dont think anyone has budwood.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Site Outage
« on: Today at 04:47:09 PM »
Thanks, Jeff. 

How about hosting a "plant and plant material sale" like the rare fruit councils do at meetings with all sale proceeds going towards the increased cost for the virtual server upgrade?  Yes, this will mean people would be "donating" their material but I think many would be up for it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is there any variety of Papaya that doesn't taste like Possum Pi$$?
« on: July 14, 2018, 09:06:08 PM »
Quote from: KarenRei on July 14, 2018, 08:25:51 PM
And this is why Brix - on its own - is a terrible measure of a fruit.  I could mix granulated sugar with mud and toenail clippings, and it'd have a great brix score.  ;)

+1,000,000,000,000,000

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Zill adventure Tuesday
« on: July 14, 2018, 07:27:25 PM »
Quote from: Guanabanus on July 14, 2018, 06:21:24 PM
I hadn't heard of Cream Brulee.

I believe its I-25...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is Angie a Top-Tier Mango?
« on: July 14, 2018, 07:31:33 AM »
Quote from: sunworshiper on July 14, 2018, 07:16:22 AM
Quote from: behlgarden on July 13, 2018, 12:59:25 PM
had another Angie last night I got from Florida. I smiled after tasting it, glad I topworked it.

Thanks for sharing - that indicates perhaps that rather than variable quality-just taste is subjective and this variety is especially polarizing.

I believe Behl was confirming he didnt like it and was glad he topworked the tree into something else...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting mangos of 2018
« on: July 13, 2018, 11:35:01 PM »
Dont blame the post office...Carrie should not be shipped unless maybe its picked rock hard green and sent via Fedex priority overnight delivery.

If you found the Choc Anon delicious, you will probably go bonkers over the Tomny Atkins.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is there any variety of Papaya that doesn't taste like Possum Pi$$?
« on: July 13, 2018, 08:22:13 PM »
If you are talking store bought, then no.

A homegrown Red Lady is really good.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Zill adventure Tuesday
« on: July 13, 2018, 02:08:29 PM »
Quote from: Guanabanus on July 13, 2018, 12:20:17 PM
Terry?  Or Traci?

Come on now Har, dont get technical.  😉😲😂

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« on: July 13, 2018, 02:06:54 PM »
Quote from: Guanabanus on July 13, 2018, 11:58:30 AM
Looks as though someone did a bud graft, which then died.  I hope that wasn't the 'Pickering'--- if it was, then the rest is probably Turpentine.

That damage looks to be above the graft and tbose leaves are definitely that of  Pickering.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is it too late to plant a new mango tree in ground?
« on: July 12, 2018, 11:24:19 PM »
Quote from: mangokothiyan on July 12, 2018, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: wslau on July 12, 2018, 10:29:10 PM
Speaking of Duncan's...Do Florida grown Duncans have an astringent taste near the skin like the ones I tasted which were grown in CA?
Have we been picking these at the wrong time?

All Duncans have the taste. Most people seem to like it though.

Duncan tends to have a split season.  That taste characteristic is usually more pronounced in the early crop.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Keitt & Kent no longer recommended for planting? Please say it ain't so.
« on: July 12, 2018, 10:08:21 PM »
Quote from: Cookie Monster on July 12, 2018, 10:03:31 PM
Did you find MBBS before the rain started? All of my PPK came off clean, but harvest was finished in June.

Quote from: DuncanYoung on July 12, 2018, 09:12:53 PM
Lemon Meringue with MBBS & Rot



Not on PPK but I have seen it show its ugly head on immature fruit, before May.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Keitt & Kent no longer recommended for planting? Please say it ain't so.
« on: July 12, 2018, 09:51:01 PM »
Quote from: Aaron on July 12, 2018, 08:47:11 PM
Quote from: Capt Ram on July 12, 2018, 08:31:44 PM
I've also got 2 keitt trees were just about all the fruitis split looks like MBBS
Very sad,. If I do a severe prunning could that help the chances of getting rid of this diease ?
What about top working the tree, will MBBS infect the new grafts??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXNeGaGYNIg

Not sure I would follow this and expect success.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gary Mango
« on: July 12, 2018, 09:35:45 PM »
Bill, I hate to say this but that does not look like a Gary.  Shape and color are off.  Did you buy the tree from somewhere or get budwood and graft it? 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Which Mango is Better--Carrie or Angie? (And questions about Angie ripening.)
« on: July 12, 2018, 06:36:19 PM »
Quote from: nighthawk0911@yahoo.com on July 12, 2018, 05:27:07 PM
Quote from: bsbullie on July 12, 2018, 05:03:15 PM
Quote from: nighthawk0911@yahoo.com on July 12, 2018, 04:52:50 PM
Quote from: bsbullie on July 11, 2018, 11:20:07 PM
Quote from: mangokothiyan on July 11, 2018, 10:58:53 PM
Quote from: bsbullie on July 11, 2018, 10:23:39 PM
Carrie and Angie are in my bottom 5, and you can add Ugly Betty to that pile.

Love the Ugly Betty, Angie and Carrie. I will take them any day compared to some other varieties such as Glenn, Rosigold, Cogshall and NDM #4. Better than Mahachanok as well, at least for my taste buds.

I agree, the others you mentioned are in the bottom pile.  Lol

My how tastes vary from person to person...

Truly Tropical grows and sells over 80 varieties of mangoes.  Carrie is their absolute #1 FAVORITE BEST SELLER!!  Most hard core mango lovers think Carrie is a superb mango - the facts speak for themselves.

I am very familiar with Truly Tropical and know Chris very well.  I dont choose mangoes based on sales.  I go by taste.  I am alsi very familiar with the Carrie and you will never see me eating one.  To me, they are horrible.  Please don't try to preach to me about how good it is and any mango lover would make it their favorite.  You will not even make me think of eating one or changing my mind.

Not trying to change your mind, trying to make you realize that the vast majority of people 90%?? think Carrie is an excellent mango. Telling people that Carrie is a bad tasting mango isn't accurate.  It's especially bad because your opinion and knowledge on most other things is spot on and well respected.  People are entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts.

90%?  Really, you have conclusive evidence?

You telling people its great is the same as me telling people its hirrible...its based on one's own taste and opinion.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Which Mango is Better--Carrie or Angie? (And questions about Angie ripening.)
« on: July 12, 2018, 05:03:15 PM »
Quote from: nighthawk0911@yahoo.com on July 12, 2018, 04:52:50 PM
Quote from: bsbullie on July 11, 2018, 11:20:07 PM
Quote from: mangokothiyan on July 11, 2018, 10:58:53 PM
Quote from: bsbullie on July 11, 2018, 10:23:39 PM
Carrie and Angie are in my bottom 5, and you can add Ugly Betty to that pile.

Love the Ugly Betty, Angie and Carrie. I will take them any day compared to some other varieties such as Glenn, Rosigold, Cogshall and NDM #4. Better than Mahachanok as well, at least for my taste buds.

I agree, the others you mentioned are in the bottom pile.  Lol

My how tastes vary from person to person...

Truly Tropical grows and sells over 80 varieties of mangoes.  Carrie is their absolute #1 FAVORITE BEST SELLER!!  Most hard core mango lovers think Carrie is a superb mango - the facts speak for themselves.

I am very familiar with Truly Tropical and know Chris very well.  I dont choose mangoes based on sales.  I go by taste.  I am alsi very familiar with the Carrie and you will never see me eating one.  To me, they are horrible.  Please don't try to preach to me about how good it is and any mango lover would make it their favorite.  You will not even make me think of eating one or changing my mind.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gary Mango
« on: July 12, 2018, 04:34:47 PM »
Quote from: BestDay on July 12, 2018, 02:52:26 PM
Thanks.  Should I just go by color?  How about if the fruit "gives" to pressure?  Or if the stem breaks easily when fruit is put at a 90 degree angle?

Bill

I tend not to wait till a mango is soft to pick.  Sometimes shit happens but I like to look for the right signs and then once picked, should be ripe in 1 - 3 days or so.

As far as picking, I have harvested many Gary and unless fully ripe on the tree, they seem to need a tug to pick.  Look for the lightening of the color,  browning and narrowing of the stem.  Maybe post pictures and even try picking one to see how it ripens...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is Angie a Top-Tier Mango?
« on: July 12, 2018, 01:20:28 PM »
Quote from: nighthawk0911@yahoo.com on July 12, 2018, 12:38:58 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on July 11, 2018, 10:12:54 PM
Surprised to see Carrie in your top 5 but not Angie. They are similar in terms of flavor profile, with Angie being more firm.



Quote from: Fig-Doctor on July 11, 2018, 10:01:07 PM
Angie is a good mango as a dwarf tree but in my garden I don’t put it my Top 5 . Dot, Lemon zest, Coco cream, Carrie, Sweet tart. All of them have very strong sweetness and complex flavor.

Carrie is great.....Angie tastes like A$$

I agree with your comment about Angie...as does Carrie and Ugly Betty.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gary Mango
« on: July 12, 2018, 11:55:53 AM »
Depending in location, they can get a yellowish tinge of color to the dull green.  To clarify, it is still a green color, just like a mix of dull lighter green and a hint of dull yellow.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Which Mango is Better--Carrie or Angie? (And questions about Angie ripening.)
« on: July 11, 2018, 11:20:07 PM »
Quote from: mangokothiyan on July 11, 2018, 10:58:53 PM
Quote from: bsbullie on July 11, 2018, 10:23:39 PM
Carrie and Angie are in my bottom 5, and you can add Ugly Betty to that pile.

Love the Ugly Betty, Angie and Carrie. I will take them any day compared to some other varieties such as Glenn, Rosigold, Cogshall and NDM #4. Better than Mahachanok as well, at least for my taste buds.

I agree, the others you mentioned are in the bottom pile.  Lol

My how tastes vary from person to person...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Which Mango is Better--Carrie or Angie? (And questions about Angie ripening.)
« on: July 11, 2018, 10:23:39 PM »
Carrie and Angie are in my bottom 5, and you can add Ugly Betty to that pile.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: what kind are these? Store bought.
« on: July 10, 2018, 11:47:33 AM »
Quote from: bsbullie on July 10, 2018, 11:44:05 AM
I would say Kent.

By looking at the sticker and chexking their website, it "should" be either a TA, Haden or Kent...so I am sticking with Kent.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: what kind are these? Store bought.
« on: July 10, 2018, 11:44:05 AM »
I would say Kent. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brutal heatwave 7/06/18 in Socal
« on: July 10, 2018, 08:12:54 AM »
Quote from: CA Hockey on July 09, 2018, 01:40:05 AM
Quote from: WaterFowler on July 07, 2018, 10:05:39 PM



Well looking at the lemon zest, it did take more damage to the new growth than I thought. But it still seems like it takes the heat much better than my sweet tart, and definitely Coconut Cream. Maybe about the same as Keitt and "manilla" mango. The Coconut Cream may be delicious but it isn't particularly tough. Doesn't seem to deal with the cold or extreme heat well.



I agree. My lemon zest flushed through the heat with no negative effects. You can see the flush with no spray on it. Thee are even new flushes today. Still going.




Something is having a negative effect on that LZ as it looks sickly...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit Cocktail aka 28-18
« on: July 10, 2018, 07:40:47 AM »
Quote from: mangomandan on July 10, 2018, 07:12:08 AM
The Fruit Cocktail mangos I brought home did not have any tartness (but were still fine and will make excellent mango Margaritas come Thanksgiving).

Should I have cut them open when still firm?

Dont confuse acidity with tart.  You can have an acidic component without tart.  I definitely did not detect any tartness but it did have an acidic nuance.  I know I keep using the Capri comparison but try any fruit puch drink and while it is very sweet, it will have an acidic component blended in.  The fruit I had were not super soft but definitely fully ripe.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: David Bowie and Roger Meyer dragon fruits, are they worth growing?
« on: July 09, 2018, 11:11:51 PM »
There are many varieties of dragon fruit that require cross pollination...if allowed to attempt to fruit on their own, they wind up being a beautiful(?) ornamental cactii.

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