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What garcinias can you grow in SD? Do you have a large greenhouse for them?
I used to have button mangosteen seedlings before they died.

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Hi Ariel, good to have you back.

Here is the relevant webpage. https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ourfocus/planthealth/import-information/permits/plants-and-plant-products-permits/plants-for-planting/ct_smalllots_seed

The US currently uses a blacklist system to ban invasive plants, exotic weeds, and certain plants from areas that are at high risk of carrying diseases or harboring pests which could have a negative impact on significant domestic crops.

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I don't have experience with grafting on fino de jete. I just graft onto the seedling rootstock. On the grafted tree I purchased, I guess things graft pretty well onto 'honeyhart'.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Successful multigraft
« on: May 10, 2018, 03:24:52 PM »
I budded a lot of the same varieties. Trying to force the buds now.

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I've had good luck with priority mail t-shirt boxes for DF. The adhesive seems strong. The box itself would break first. First class package is cheaper (for less than 13oz) but is more work to put together and wait in line at the PO to send.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 4gal Backpack Sprayer for $52
« on: May 04, 2018, 03:15:40 PM »
Do the backpack sprayers come with agitators that mix the contents, or is that an extra feature that only some have? Is it standard for battery backpack sprayers? You know, some things don't stay mixed too long and need to be shaken around from time to time.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Advantages Of Micro-budding Citrus
« on: May 03, 2018, 05:34:05 PM »
Found in Youtube someone showing this "Micro-budding" technique:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbMHv5l5xA0
This is grafting, not budding. Microbudding uses a single bud without the surrounding wood. The method I know about even dissects the bud to remove some layers first.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 4gal Backpack Sprayer for $52
« on: May 03, 2018, 01:00:16 PM »
what do you guys put in the sprayer? How much do you fill at a time?

I have a 1.25 gallon hand pump and it's mostly just soap water for now. Not many things to spray. I have a RoundUp gallon container and it comes with a squirter so I just use that. I have trouble using up a gallon of either solution at one time so I'm thinking a larger one might be overkill for me unless it's for the ease of carrying (backpack) or automatic pump. Do you guys think these upgrades are worth it?

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I heard the LA wholesale produce market is a 4-6am deal.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus peel in compost
« on: May 02, 2018, 05:55:22 PM »
I have a friend that uses only citrus for worms to train them. He says they do fine. I think they're fine when they're molded.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Jade Pineapple
« on: May 02, 2018, 05:53:46 PM »
Yeah, they bent over when they got heavy. All 4 of my white jades did that but all 3 store ones had short stalks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Jade Pineapple
« on: May 02, 2018, 04:27:56 PM »
Is it just me or does white jade's fruiting stalk stick out a lot farther than other varieties. I only fruited white jade and the ones from the store.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Jade Pineapple
« on: May 02, 2018, 01:04:08 AM »
That flower is going to become a very large fruit! Mine are below average size since I forced mine, or I should say my mom made me force them. They ripened a month ago and weren't the best. Some winter damage but most of the damage was sunburn to the fruits during the fall. The side of the fruits kind of died and dried up. That hurt the flavor of the whole fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WANT: Avri Loquat scions
« on: May 02, 2018, 12:58:43 AM »
Maybe, I need to check this weekend.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Did I get a good deal?
« on: May 01, 2018, 05:40:24 PM »
The price is okay. They're more pricey when you're looking for them and free when you don't want any more.

If it's eBay, I would be wary of fakes. I think I received all fakes from an eBay seller once. 4 varieties, 12 cuttings.

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I hope someone with real experience can chime in. Most of us live in much warmer places and don't know the hardiness of figs in colder climates. I can only tell you to get a greenhouse so that your figs will be warm enough to survive winter if the outside weather gets too cold for them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: cloning gels
« on: April 24, 2018, 02:22:05 AM »
I haven't tried clonex before. I've been using dip n grow. I figured it has 2 hormones so it's better. I don't really know.

I have used clonex on vegetative growth (i.e. passion fruit), and have had good success with Dip N Grow on ornamental woody plants... not sure why I never tried it on fruit trees, but I bet it would work.  That stuff is NASTY though.  The guy at the hydroponics store said it would "root a toothpick", lol

The cannibis guys have been using clonex for decades - you'd think if it was bad to use on "edibles" (warning label or not) that info would have gotten out by now.
Yes, Dip N Grow smells like some sort of petroleum product. Maybe benzene or something. Anyway, I accidentally brushed my sleeve on leaves that caught some of the drippings below the airlayer and that stuff will never come off. Basically like a dilute glue.

I'm not sure if clonex is nasty or not.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: cloning gels
« on: April 19, 2018, 07:26:26 PM »
Clonex works like a charm for me for many years. IBA content is 3.3 g/L. My only concern in the colour, it's very toxic and a cancerigen so wear gloves. Sure it is in a low quantity but very potent, that's way they warn you on the box that it's not for edible plants.
What, really?

I haven't tried clonex before. I've been using dip n grow. I figured it has 2 hormones so it's better. I don't really know.

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ēAnd finally, there's the little Nitidulid beetle, which is pollinating anonnas in Florida:  https://academic.oup.com/ee/article-abstract/23/4/878/411821?redirectedFrom=fulltext .  Maybe I can get these little guys to help me out!

not very responsible government spends billions to prevent invasive species and here you want to potentially introduce one just because you are too lazy to hand pollinate


  • I was merely pointing out what I found: there *are* beetles in the USA that pollinate anonnas.  The abstract doesn't mention their status as being invasive or noninvasive.  If they're here, why not let the bugs do the work?
  • Now that you've added "invasiveness" to the conversation, here's a bit of info: apparently the beetle is now classified as "Aethina tumida."  (And by the way, boxturtle, it's already in California; so your accusation is not only unwarranted, it's also inaccurate.  You can't "introduce" a bug that's already here.) 
  • For anyone who's interested, here's a place to look up California's invasive species.  The list is for beetles, but you can filter for other categories using the drop-down arrow at the top: http://ice.ucdavis.edu/invasives/home/species?term_node_tid_depth=107.

Also, I think he meant billions cumulatively, over many years. This is true.
Annually, invasive species COST the government billions, but the government spends millions to PREVENT them. The 2012 number I found was 100 million. Maybe if you combine that with what all the states spend, it'll go over a billion. https://www.fws.gov/verobeach/PythonPDF/CostofInvasivesFactSheet.pdf

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruiting Shade Tree for So Cal
« on: April 18, 2018, 02:43:30 PM »
Moringa trees jump out of the ground like crazy and are much easier to shape than Mulberries but they are a health benefits type tree rather than a fruit to eat out of hand type tree. They can go from seed to 10 feet easily in a single year here. But mine are out in the open rather up against structure so when it got down to 28 degrees the winter before last, it killed the top half of the trees. They are a nice looking tree that flowers profusely most of the year attracting lots of pollenators to your yard.
Do you direct sow the seeds in the ground or start them in pots first? How often do you water the small ones and big ones? I have 3 year olds from seeds that are kind of slow to grow and I seeded the ground near my grapes this year since there's more sun there. Moringa doesn't seem to provide a lot of shade though, which is what I'm counting on since there are other plants behind them that I don't want to block out.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruiting Shade Tree for So Cal
« on: April 18, 2018, 01:22:50 PM »
Grapes are probably best to shade the house since you can put them close to the walls. The fruits can be kept low so that it's all leaves up high. Easy harvest and no fruit drop from top. You prune off most of the vines each year to restart the cycle.

My father had a Concord grape arbor next to our house. It was the messy, sometimes most stinky (rotting grapes), part of the yard.
Good point. That's because it was on an arbor where people like to see the grapes dangle down from the top. Prune it like a vineyard and all the fruits would be at chest height and all the current season leaves would be up top. Well, that's my plan anyway. Currently, I have a dozen grapes at a 2 ft spacing in my parents' west wall. I might need to remove every other one later depending on how dense the canopy gets each year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruiting Shade Tree for So Cal
« on: April 18, 2018, 12:33:42 PM »
So grapes and figs then. Jujube is deciduous, but i'm not sure how big they get. White fruited mulberries don't stain much. Kei apple is more of a bush.

Grapes are probably best to shade the house since you can put them close to the walls. The fruits can be kept low so that it's all leaves up high. Easy harvest and no fruit drop from top. You prune off most of the vines each year to restart the cycle.

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You're right. The coastal areas don't get very warm. I notice though that I have to protect my pineapples from the cold in LA while several of my San Diego friends don't have any problem just growing them in full sun and open sky.

That's surprising to me -- here in the East Bay I don't have to protect pineapples in the winter.  (The leaves do get a bit yellow but they bounce back quickly in the spring.)  But it might be more of the "no frost, no heat" sort of situation here, because I haven't seen frost here in any of the places I've gardened but tropicals grow at a snail's pace.

It went to the high 30s on maybe 4 nights this winter here in Burbank. Pineapple leaves got frost damage and the green turned white. That griffith park hills blocked the coastal fogs from reaching me so there's no sky cover.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruiting Shade Tree for So Cal
« on: April 18, 2018, 02:07:37 AM »
Carob, ice cream bean.

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