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Did you have a friend make the app? Is it React Native? It looks really simple to do in React Native and just have it build both ios and android packages.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: June 25, 2018, 01:11:09 PM »
It's really hard to crack the shell without breaking the seed inside. The shell is like 2mm thick and the seed is right up against it with no wiggle room.

I tried GA3 and the seeds started growing a taproot and then melted away. I might just plant some without any treatment and wait.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Toona sinensis
« on: June 21, 2018, 01:49:38 PM »
I think the young shoots in spring is what people eat. I got one plant from a friend but it's not done very well last year and died back to the ground during a freeze that also took out all the sweet potato leaves. It did survive and came back this year. Hopefully it will become established in the ground so I can try it later. It doesn't seem invasive to me yet.

I think they do mean cubic yard.

Thank you everyone for your help. I'm appreciative for the info and will have to consider my budget and possibly take city soil or start small organic planter box. The Whittier Fertilizer guy said to mix (organic mix 50/50 original soil) and 16/16/16 fertilizer has a starter.

I went to Whittier Fertilizer to check out cost:
"Organic Flower and Veg Mix" is $48 per cubic yard.
"Planter Mix" is $33 per cubic yard
"Planter Box Mix" also $33 per cubic yard.

16-16-16 Fertilizer $31.40

Costco "had" Miracle Grow organic potting mix back in March for $9.99 for 55 quart = 1.8 Cubic yard. hella of a deal, but they sold out. Don't think they will have anymore.
55 quart = 1.8 cubic feet
1 cubic yard = 27 cubic feet
You need 15 of those Costco bags to get a cubic yard, so $150.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: June 14, 2018, 04:21:35 PM »
You mean inarch with yangmei or native rootstock? I once approach grafted a native rootstock and the rootstock gave up its roots, thinking it can just take nutrients from the mother tree. It grew pretty well until I cut below the yangmei side of the graft.

I did cleft, whip and tongue, approach, side. I guess side graft is more successful for me. It's still not a good percentage though.

I keep saying it's hard to propagate, but that could be just me, or my rootstocks, or my one mother plant.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: June 14, 2018, 12:17:33 PM »
Mine all died too on M. cerifera. I think it just heals very slowly. The ones that take longer to push have better chances at survival. Maybe the grafts should be covered in foil to prevent them from pushing too soon.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: June 13, 2018, 07:20:30 PM »
This year I let one rootstock root into the ground through the pot while upping the other 2 to 5gal before grafting. Interestingly, the one in the ground did not take any grafts. It did make a really strong sucker that pushed the main trunk almost flat to the soil line. The grafts were already failing before the sucker took over. I guess I should graft onto the sucker and see how that does. The other rootstocks took 1 or 2 out of about 5 grafts. I hope the heat doesn't kill the grafts. Some grafts that pushed out earlier wilted. Yangmei grafts will push early and then die. The ones that are slower tend to have better chances of healing.

If it has paper shreds and doritos wrappers in it, it's green bin mulch. People put regular trash in them and there's often dog and cat poop in there and it's very lightly or not composted. If it has coarser pieces but no trash, it's chipped stuff from places like Griffith Park. It tends to smell nice. If it's fine and black and doesn't smell much, it's well-composted compost from Griffith Park. If it's black but has large pieces, it's also compost but not as broken down and it smells pretty bad. All are useful and you don't know what will be there when you show up. I guess anything's better than showing up and nothing's there. I keep hoping to get the fine compost, since my city already delivers wood chips to me for free.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: growing Mr. Minh's atemoya in FL
« on: June 13, 2018, 11:23:38 AM »
I hope you didn't buy it from Mr. Minh. His prices are pretty high and based on the age of the tree, not the size. He wanted more for the stunted older plants than the vigorous younger ones.

Hope that helps, that's how I improve my soil here in AZ ... 112 DEGREES TODAY!!!!
That's really hot! It's been pretty hot over here lately (above 90), but it's going back to 70 this weekend. You get more rain than we do in California though.

Anyway, smartdriver, do put down seeds to grow something so you're not wasting that expensive water just wetting the soil for 6 months.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Surniame Cherry from Jim Neitzel
« on: June 13, 2018, 10:54:40 AM »
That looks great! The nicest thing about eugenias is they can tolerate some shade. I just put my surinam cherry seedling in the front yard where it's shady all the time. It was flowering this year before planting. I hope it will do so next year.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: June 13, 2018, 10:52:20 AM »
With the demand we have here, it boggles the mind that none of the people with the few successful germinations have tried air layering and selling seedlings. I would love to have a few to grow in Central Fl.
I thought I posted my airlayering results years ago. In short, 3 consecutive years of putting several airlayers at different times failed.

I think just lots and lots of compost is good. Maybe get bags of cheap cow manure from Home Depot or Lowes or similar places. Manure is basically compost, but digested by the cow rather than bacteria. This is going to help the most for soil. Other stuff like epsom salt you don't necessarily need, but people get obsessed and want to spend more money.

That city "compost" you got is actually mulch made from green bin materials. It takes some time to break down. They do have mulch at the place on Mission on Thursdays I think, but there are people with trucks that shovel it up pretty fast and sell it. If you go on Friday, a lot of times there's nothing left. The compost is good if you can get it.

Just mix the compost into the soil a little bit and plant in it. Cover with mulch to retain water longer. It does take some work to make the water absorb into it in the beginning. Grow fast-growing veggies and cover crops until you figure out what to do with the land. Better if they have deep roots and/or make a lot of roots. Dead roots add organic matter to the soil really well. Beans fix nitrogen and you can then bury the plants in the garden to add organic matter. I never had much success with compost bins in this dry climate. Burying and planting on top works for me.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: June 13, 2018, 12:41:39 AM »
Thanks for posting the information. Are the tents for worms, maybe fruit flies?

I've seen videos of u-pick places in China. Fruit picking tours are more popular these days I think. Correct me if I'm outdated. I've been here for 20+ years and really am not that well connected to what happens there anymore.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jim Neitzel passing away
« on: June 12, 2018, 07:13:01 PM »

Yes the last time I saw him was around two to three years ago at the California cherimoya association annual meeting in carpinteria at the home of Jonathan Brown.  He came up with one of his sons who if I remember correctly had a place in Escondido. Anyway we talked plants in general for quite awhile before the meeting started. It was a really day .

I didn't know he went to that meeting. It's so far away for him. He's really dedicated to this hobby.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: June 12, 2018, 11:19:26 AM »
My friend ate a bunch of fresh Myrica Rubra when he was in China and he saw this thread and said the fruit didnít look too fresh so Iíll pass. He mentioned that the Fruit get soft very fast at room temp. If this place also sells No Mai Tsze Lychees, Iíll definitely be interested!


Yeah, people in China don't want it once it gets a little puffy on the skin. They pack them in plastic cells in styrofoam and ship them express over there. They last about a week. On the other hand, they buy crappy avocados from us at high prices.

The only interesting thing this place sells is yangmei. The owner is from around Shanghai so she probably doesn't know lychee very well. The Fei zi siu I got last week from a supermarket was pretty bad. They were decent in previous years.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: June 11, 2018, 08:22:30 PM »
It's pretty pricey since this is the only place that has it. They used to have a business shipping things to China. Now they sell fruits from China. They don't know fruits very well. I kind of understand them selling yangmei for $35/lb since they're the only seller, but passion fruit from China for more than a few dollars/lb is ridiculous. I'll ask my wife for their location if you're still interested.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: June 11, 2018, 05:38:30 PM »
The fresh fruit is also sold in Los Angeles this year.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: June 11, 2018, 04:19:58 PM »
That's where we ordered from before. The website looks a lot better already. There's no scrolling or pop up stuff. Images are less stretched than before too.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: June 11, 2018, 10:53:29 AM »
This plants seems really hard to propagate to me. It might be because I have one tree and it's a weak one that produces weak cuttings. The bareroot shipping probably damaged the roots too much and it's not recovered for many years. Maybe I need to grow seeds and inarch it like you say.

I'm still trying to figure out seed germination. I've been cracking them open and they look fine inside. Then they become moldy and rot. I guess put them in peat moss so the fungus don't get them so fast. I haven't had much success myself.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jim Neitzel passing away
« on: June 11, 2018, 01:00:07 AM »
Big Sister is one I've been looking for. I've had Sabor for many years but only just grafted Big Sister a month ago. Thanks for the pictures.

I've only heard of growing from stems too. Maybe you can find a source for stems.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Aphids destroying my Citrus
« on: June 06, 2018, 05:22:58 PM »
I do soapy water spray. Of course it's the ants that are likely responsible for placing the aphids there, so some tanglefoot or other ant control may be needed. Then, the natural predators can take out the aphids pretty easily.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Good fruiting indoor plants
« on: June 05, 2018, 07:11:50 PM »
Miracle fruit grew well for me in an apartment.

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