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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Bocar guava
« on: November 14, 2019, 04:00:09 PM »
Does anyone have any info on this. I had a graft take and just pulled an air layer off of a friends tree. Maurice Kong has been propagating these. The only info my friend has is that the fruit is supposed to be resistant to pests.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: CA PSA Pharaoh moth on cherimoyas.
« on: November 14, 2019, 03:56:55 PM »

These were in the tree at the same time.  ;D

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: CA PSA Pharaoh moth on cherimoyas.
« on: November 14, 2019, 03:50:08 PM »
I had one of these here in Florida on my soursop as well.

Awesome. Thanks guys. Let me know how germination goes.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona spraguei fruiting in Sarasota, Fl
« on: November 08, 2019, 01:37:44 PM »
One of my neighbors has this species fruiting as well. The leaves are awesome, sort of velvety feel similar to Santol

Is it Steve? He is the one who fruited first a few months back. Same seed batch.

I have some Crystal airlayers rooting out right now.  ;)  Iíll probably put them in the sale section later or maybe throw one up on eBay to see how it does.

Also, these are all the floater culls that I threw in a community pot to see if they sprout for science because I love you guys and don't want to sell garbage.  ;)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How do you train and prune avocado?
« on: November 08, 2019, 09:48:22 AM »
I see many references to pyramid and cone shapes but most trees I see growing in the tropical orchards pinch young and train to multiple leaders. This is one of mine, a Brogdon just pruned heavy to remove top growth. This is an example of what I am seeing recommended down south of the border. The pramid form may just be an old tradition or have something to do with California vs more tropical climate and varieties. I am wondering what others experience has been.

That looks good to me. I prune in a similar fashion for most species that flower on new growth just avocados tend to be more weedy and whippy so they get a heavier prune. This is also how Richard Campbell taught me. I think the mexican varieties are more tame and especially in the cooler climates so they probably have more options. I tend to do a slight "stadium" prune that lets light in through the entire canopy since the south side of the tree will be dominant anyway.

I just pruned a Brogdon as well. It has a Wilson Seedless graft on the front that I tied up and trained after pruning. I pruned out an area to let the weaker grafts up front push some dominance. They were drooping towards the ground to begin with.

Brogdon before

Brogdon After

Wilson Seedless graft training

This is on an Oro Negro but these are types of growth that you can replace older scaffolding branches with to cycle out the larger wood in the tree similar for mango size control.

I use Silky handsaws for everything. Smooth like Kerrygold butter.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona spraguei fruiting in Sarasota, Fl
« on: November 07, 2019, 01:28:01 PM »
Congrats Josh! Looking forward to becoming one of the firsts to fruit this beauty with you guys! How long did you have to wait from seed for that first fruit?!?!

It was probably around 4 years. The original tree was a gift from a great Annona collector.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona spraguei fresh seeds USA only
« on: November 07, 2019, 01:17:35 PM »
All sold out. Thanks all. If everything goes fine this winter I'll be hand pollinating in the spring to send out tons of seed next year. Thanks for the interest and keeping this rarity around.

Good talk tonight ,nice photos to!Their were other forum members present they came to hear Josh.

It was so awesome you came out, I really appreciate it! There were some heavy hitters there. I'll come down and buy some fruit soon.

Can someone list some of the fruits mentioned ? When I was in Costa Rica the best I had were mostly of Asian origin , excluding peach palm and cherimoya

It was more showing the different regions and what markets, fruits and collectors are around. I give a brief history on ANAI and give a shout out to Peter Kring.

It wasn't about native fruits at all. Lot's of rarities from collections and also some more commons stuff found at markets.

Durian, dabai, safou, emerald cacao, cupuasu, unidentified Pouteria, aguaje, chupa chupa, chempedak, abiu .......... a bunch of different stuff.

SOLD OUT. Thanks all.

$20 for 5 seeds includes shipping in a padded mailer with slightly moist sphagnum.

Hand cleaned and only shipping seeds that pass the "float test". No BS. These were harvested on Monday.

More details here.

Shipping in USA only. I will hand pollinate in spring and hopefully open up international shipping next year to spread this ultra rarity around.

PM for paypal address.

Thanks! -Josh

All of these are underwater.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona spraguei fruiting in Sarasota, Fl
« on: November 05, 2019, 04:25:26 PM »
Very cool Josh!The tree looks great also.
How about the taste?

The tree is absolutely gorgeous. The taste kind of reminded me of a low quality Rollinia. Really seedy. Just slightly sweet. No off tastes though. Nothing you would grow for mass consumption but for the crazies like us it is a good choice in a collection. It would be cool to find something that would cross with it. Time will tell.

I am doing a presentation tonight on the Fruits Fruits of Costa Rica at the Calusa Rare Fruit Exchange in Ft Myers. Meet up at 6:30 and talk at 7pm. 

2166 Virginia Ave Fort Myers, Florida 33901

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Annona spraguei fruiting in Sarasota, Fl
« on: November 05, 2019, 02:11:47 PM »
I got my first fruit yesterday. This is the second fruiting in the USA that I know of. Steve from Fruitscapes on Pine Island was the first a few months back. Both of our trees came from the same seed batch that the late great Ray Jones germinated.

The fruit was mildly sweet and very seedy. It was fully tree ripened and eaten within hours of picking. The flavor was reminiscent of Rollinia. Definitely edible. Nothing objectionable flavor wise. This is an unimproved wild fruit and a collector item. The tree is absolutely gorgeous with giant pubescent leaves.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Platonia Insignis
« on: November 03, 2019, 10:57:37 AM »
I want to grow this so bad. I only had one seed sprout and I ended up killing it. The rest have rotted on me. They grow them from root cuttings or just let the sprouts grow up so that is probably what you are seeing in the video.

Hi S.O. Borneo. Just to confirm that my original grafted fig is still thriving and bearing heavily in the wet tropical climate of Cairns. F. opposita is a smallish shrub/tree and it appears to be a dwarfing rootstock, my original tree is still less than 1.5 metres tall. It seems to put most of its energy into the fruit I have gotten much better at grafting and I am now selling a small number of plants locally each season. I grow them to about 12 months old and their first crop of 2 or 3 figs before selling. it will be interesting to get feedback on how these plants fare, I will post any updates as i get them

Very cool. Please share. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Canistel pruning
« on: October 17, 2019, 03:26:36 PM »
Maybe something like this. It is hard to tell without being there.

It's been a while since this topic was last discussed. Has anyone else had their Excalibur Red jackfruit tree produce any fruit? Any with dark orange/red fruit?

I often wonder the same thing. I have never seen it in person. I can't imagine how many trees they sold because of this forum. My friend fruited another a Borneo Red or Red Morning from them and it was yellow fleshed.   >:(   Hopefully the new red one they put out is sorted out and accurate. The nursery there is so freaking massive I can see how things could get lost or moved around.

If anyone fruits their Excalibur Red jackfruit please post pictures even if it is not red. I have one that I multigrafted and only left one branch on it since I figured it was a dud.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Canistel pruning
« on: October 17, 2019, 02:15:01 PM »
I prune them like most of the other stuff (avo, mango, longan, lychee). I keep 3 - 5 spaced wide crotched scaffolding branches and prune out larger diameter wood from inside the canopy after fruiting to keep the trees bushier and manageable.

Sarasota is not the best place to live when you want to take down heritage oaks, especially if you live in the city limits. I've had multiple tree removal companies come out to quote the biggest tree, most were very skeptical I could get a permit, and the quotes that did come through were each for several thousand's containers for now.
A new law was passed recently that seems to be saying no permits required.,approval%20from%20their%20local%20municipality.&targetText=%22We%20need%20trees.

This is very interesting. I am in the early stages of training as a climbing arborist and had no idea about this. I sent it to my boss to see if he has dealt with this new law.

We had one lady file a permit to remove a seedling sapodilla that was crowded by trees all around it and she got denied. Manilkara zapota is on the invasive species list! These people are nuts. I told to her appeal and hopefully let someone else know how insane this is. The area of the yard is a full canopy of over planted trees.

I can't believe anyone would fuss over laurel oaks. I understand some people just clear cut everything they can and plant grass but a little common sense goes a long way.

Avocados hate pots. I have started building large fertile mounds with heavy heavy mulch at the farm where I work and just direct sow Waldin seed with a small cage around it to field graft in a couple months. Thst is on the extreme side but a more practical method in my eyes would have the oaks removed and chipped into mulch.  Build your fertile mounds and plant out the youngest 3 gal you can find after gently opening up the football. Avocados grow like weeds when properly taken care of. Donít skimp on the mulch. You can always topwork later if you donít like the varieties but Iím sure you will be pleased with whatever you choose.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is pitomba worth growing for the fruits?
« on: September 30, 2019, 10:12:50 AM »
I have a really good one. I think there is quite a bit of variation with this species. I know of quite a few people that don't like it but everyone that has tasted my tree has liked the fruit. I have eaten fruit off of a huge tree at Kampong in Coconut Grove that wasn't good. All of the trees I have tasted that were purchased from Ray Jones have been excellent. They taste like a strong spicy apricot. Unfortunately Ray Jones has passed away and I don't know where his seeds came from. I grafted on some branches from a friends tree from the same seed batch and I seem to be getting better pollination. I would plant these in at least pairs or graft or multigraft a single tree.

This is one of the best Eugenias I have eaten. Much better than grumichama and maybe even better that Zill Dark surinam.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hass avocado in florida
« on: September 24, 2019, 11:28:21 AM »
Would you like to sell me a couple small scions in two months or so? I am getting rootstock planted out now.

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