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I know it's possible, just wondering about probability. Say 1/3 or more like 1/100?

Here in FL, fruiting in 5 years is common. Have seen a tree fruit in less too.

Avocados from seeds...

In a series of discussions, someone (A) claimed he had grown multiple avocado trees from seed in SoCal and all of them fruited around year 5. Another (B) said his relative planted a costco avocado seed in East Asia and it fruited in year three.

I'm curious what you think. What is the likelihood of the above being all true? If you guesstimate, how likely is 5 avocado seedlings all fruiting at age 5, assuming excellent care? (We all know they don't grow true to seed, or even no fruit at all. So how risky is it, really?)

Did I do my math is correct??
1 gallon = 231 cubic inches
42 x 42 x 36 = 63504 cubic inches = 275 gallons

It does look big but is it really 10 times bigger than a 25 gallon pot?

Sorry to hear the losses, do keep posting.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Choice for White Sapote Cultivar
« on: March 05, 2019, 04:52:28 PM »
Really interested in this discussion, please keep it going.

I have a seedling tree in ground that got to about 5 ft tall. Then I took an unknown (!!) white sapote scion from CRFG exchange and grafted it. Fingers crossed it tastes OK...

SoCal had a cold and rainy winter, even avocado hesitates to bloom. Due to 2018 summer heat, I had maybe 30% of the usual Fuerte and exactly one JB fruit surviving. Reed / Sharwill / Mexicola fruits all wiped out by the heat.

In terms of relative tree size, roughly Fuerte 50%, Reed 30%, Mexicola 8%, JB 8%, Sharwill 4% -- does my math add up? Mexicola is quite vigorous, shame on you Sharwill!!!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID help: grape seedlings
« on: March 05, 2019, 04:22:01 PM »
Also is it characteristic of muscats to have pinkish buds? The scion photo is jupiter, and other is some unknown Muscat...
General observation are much appreciated!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / ID help: grape seedlings
« on: March 05, 2019, 04:17:08 PM »
Hi TFF family, I made the huge mistake of not labeling my grape seedlings sigh.
Wondering if I may have some ID help... My records only say blueberry grape, perfume (muscat) grape, and unknown crooked...
Any hints to maybe find out if any of them is concord? I'm suspecting the 3rd one. Thank you very much!

It's a super direct comparison actually. JB has most the mummy babies hanging on the tree. No trace at all for the reed and sharwill babies. Different varieties, different approaches.

Another update on this multi-graft tree. I came home from an extended trip to find out I lost 70% of next year's avocados to extreme SoCal heatwave. Did not check very carefully, but fuerte appears to be the only one that still holds small fruits, baby Reed/JB/Sharwill either completely disappeared, or dried up and turned black.

I don't know if it's each variety's specific heat-tolerance or the tree's strategic plan to save the bigger fruits as fuerte fruited somewhat earlier than others.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulberry Thread.
« on: April 25, 2018, 01:39:31 PM »
Unknown mulberry rooted from my neighbor's tree. Any guesses about variety? Thank you!

Took photos of the baby cados today. Reed only recently started blooming and I was surprised to see fruitlets. Glad to see Sharwill producing again. Fingers crossed mexicola will grow strong enough to handle those fruits.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: April 21, 2018, 01:48:29 AM »
Hi all, I am looking for avocado recommendation in Socal. What variety tastes good for September thru December?

On my tree, Fuerte (December-April) and Reed (May-September) are dominant, followed by Jan Boyce (December-January-ish despite what online sources say), Sharwill (grows too slowly to count), and small graft of suspected Mexicola's season is yet to be seen (allegedly 2 harvests, July and January).

I guess holiday is an obvious choice, but I somehow heard it does not produce that well?

What about pollinators?

It does fruit in LA. The fresh fruits first became available last year in LA, so most of the seedling growers wouldn't be getting flowers just yet, except for a few like barath and the guy that fruited it in LA.

I'm sure there'll be lots of people fruiting it from seed in a couple of years.

Apparently much more difficult than P. Edulis. Fingers crossed.


I'm growing some vines here in the Los Angeles Area and they're doing fine, they were grown from seed

Did it ever flower for you? I'm getting a little pessimistic that when I asked around, people who grow seedlings never got it to flower let alone fruit. Apparently not suitable for our climate.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID help: eggplant shaped avocado?
« on: April 11, 2018, 02:11:30 AM »
I assume it's a seedling tree.
Tree is gigantic. Very difficult to pick fruits from. Lots of fallen fruits when I visited my friend, and considering the thin skin its chances against squirrels are slim.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID help: eggplant shaped avocado?
« on: April 10, 2018, 10:03:23 PM »
I think the shape is just an odd seedling thing. Other characteristics such as paper-thin edible skin speaks more about its origin.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID help: eggplant shaped avocado?
« on: April 10, 2018, 06:09:03 PM »
I have this variety grafted and looks like I may have fruits for next season. Actually, my friend alleges he gets 2 crops on the gigantic mother tree, July and January respectively. Anyways, will see.

Last winter, right when fuerte starts to bloom, we trimmed off the new vertical branches at top of the tree with relative ease. The goal is always to trim at that height before new shoots have a chance to harden. Fuerte branch is in 120% FULL BLOOM and does not seem to mind the minor pruning. Will see how this battle goes in the long term!


Just wondering if there is anyone out there in Southern California that has had success with Passiflora ligularis - Sweet granadilla. Just purchased a couple of them and any hints or tips on growing them would be appreciated. I have done a search about it but most results came back with negative results and most people saying it will not grow well in SoCal.

Reviving an old thread. I bought fresh fruits last fall and sprouted seeds recently. Did you get them to flower and fruit? I vaguely remember ppl say it's hard to get sweet granadilla to flower. Thank you very much.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: April 09, 2018, 02:03:19 PM »
When hass fruits are starting to get a decent oil content they turn dull green and then darkish green almost black on the tree.  If they are bright green they need more time.

My other friend's hass is in season now, much darker green color.
This friend has a young tree and fruiting for the first or second time. I suspect it takes longer to ripen them.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: April 08, 2018, 10:11:38 PM »
My friend was wondering why her hass fruits take forever to ripen, I told her the fruits ripen off the tree and should be in season now. She happily went ahead to pick ALL the fruits, and I almost got a heart attack seeing so many fruits in bright green ---- I did not know hass fruits stay green on the tree, and turn to dark color AFTER picking.

Oh and I finally removed the struggling queen branch (graft got half broken by accident but continued to grow).

In terms of vigor, for my tree Fuerte ~ Reed ~ Mexicola > Jan Boyce >> Sharwill. One year old Mexicola (suspected) shoots up for the sky and is already much taller than three year old Sharwill (which is not quite able to support itself upright).

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: April 05, 2018, 03:27:26 PM »
Reed blooms last and self pollinates.

Even though reed does not have the "alternate bearing" reputation, I was still a little concerned. Thank you. Anxious to taste my first properly ripened reed.

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