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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting avocado tree
« on: August 11, 2018, 10:31:08 PM »
I think absolutely NOT.
Tha said, I'd prefer budwood from a health tree instead

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Ponderosa lemon strange leaning leaves
« on: August 09, 2018, 09:04:27 PM »
Watering is OK but I start to fear that it's something connected with root water uptake too....hopefully not root rot, nematodes  or similar

Black sapote?
Some people say the taste is very bland, is it true?

I've seedilings 6 months growing from Raul's seeds, white fleshed variety i'm plannig to move them to open soil next january.
Thanks Mike

That's definitely a great news Mike  :)
You've both white and pink/red fleshed varieties?
what can you say about the taste?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: August 03, 2018, 12:14:52 AM »
Oh my godness you've conditions comparable to kuwait or saudi arabia!
Now i understand  :(

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: August 02, 2018, 10:52:32 PM »
Holy s.....what kind of temperatures/humidity/wind speed  range you had to experience such an awful damage????

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Ponderosa lemon strange leaning leaves
« on: August 01, 2018, 02:41:04 AM »
Thank you Millet! I'm always here learning drops of wisedom from this forum.
Actually they are mature leaves. Temperature are always in the range 26-32 C (79-90 F) in this period.
What worries me most is that just some branches exhibit these strange leaves. 95% of the tree branches  have happy upright crunchy leaves only a few of them have these wilting ones...

No Brian they are not. Look at the last picture and compare them to the normal ones very "fresh" and pointing upwards.
These ones look "sad" and even at the touch it seems they are lacking water....bad sign since the tree is well hydrated...

Citrus General Discussion / Ponderosa lemon strange leaning leaves
« on: July 31, 2018, 04:13:51 AM »
This is one of my ponderosa lemon trees.
It's 4 years old from a small cutting and now planted in "soil" and producing  plenty of juicy lemons all year round.
This variety seems perfectly adapted to the hot tropical climate of the philippines unlike other varieties i've here.

Apart from an evident zinc deficiency (that I'm trying to correct with Zinc sulphate solution spraying) this tree has never given any problem.
Nevertheless, lately i noticed that somethig strange is happening.
Some branches have weird "leaning" leaves with a wilted appearence.
I looked out for worms/borers, parasites but i couldn't spot anything.
In some pictures it's evident the difference between the upright normal leaves and the  sick ones.
Any suggestion?
Thanks in advance!

YES thorns are really scary but they disappear on mature trees and high branches :-)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: looking for a sweet mango
« on: July 24, 2018, 05:11:38 AM »
Would i trigger a hurricane saying KEITT ??

I strongly doubt yours are really Flacourtia Jangomas.
Don't trust any vernacular names (coffee plum, indian plum, governor's plum...) because they can be deceiving.
Mine is locally called SARALI and just after a long research i found out to be actually Flacourtia Jangomas.

I post some pictures .
This is the actual tree, 5 years old from seed (more like a big shrub about 3m tall)

The long, sharp and scary thorns along the base of trunk and main brunches. Thanks god the upper branches and canopy are thornless

Here a detail of leaves and young fruits. At the moment unfortunately no flowers

Here the fruits, most of them are  in nice clusters

Here is a ripe fruit. It's a tiny fruit, about 9-10 grams. Skin turns deep purple, it's thin and edible.
Flesh is deep yellow  firm ad a bit juicy if fully ripe.
Taste is very pleasant, strong, sweet with a hint of sour and tangy. If eaten unripe it can be very astringent
Seeds are flat and don't bother

Very easy to grow, mine is actually on a thin limestone layer among rocks.
All in all i love it :-)

Mine is 5 years old now and it looks more like a large shrub than a real tree.
I will post some pictures soon :-)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Site Outage
« on: July 22, 2018, 07:51:05 AM »
Many thanks to the administrators and contributors to this Forum..
I learnt and I'm learning so much here.
You can count me in

I growing it from seeds I got from some fruits I got in Cotabato - Mindanao island
I took 4 years to fruit and now at the fifth year it's bearing heavily.
I like this fruit just let it ripe enough or it may be quite astringent.
My wife is from Cotabato and told me that children there are used to harvest fruit from the wild then rub between the palms of the hands prior to eating it in order to reduce the astringency and make them sweeter.
And it works  :)

The tree is easy to grow, likes full sun and seems more a big shrub than a real tree. The only real pest here are larvae of some butterflies which really like to feast on buds and young leaves.
Base of the trunk and lower branches are VERY thorny.
I found it's a dioecious specie  but fortunately my single tree is bearing fruit without a male tree.  :)
You can find some useful info here, if you need i can send you some pictures:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Today's harvest
« on: July 22, 2018, 06:37:56 AM »
Beautiful harvest Lory! What does the Annona taste like?

If you mean the Guyabano, annona muricata is sweet with a hint of pleasant acidity, excellent fruit.
Soursop has several named and unnamed varieties and they can GREATLY differ concerning fruit quality and taste, some being extremely sour some really sweet

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Today's harvest
« on: July 22, 2018, 06:33:53 AM »
What is the Sarali like? I recently bought seeds from Trade Winds Fruit and they will hopefully sprout. They were called Indian Coffee Plum but have the same genus species name of the Sarali. Thanks!

Yes it's the same! Flacourtia Jangomas.
Sarali is just a local name.
It's a small but very tasty fruit, easy to germinate and to grow.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this calcium deficiency ?
« on: July 22, 2018, 06:26:02 AM »
Thanks Guanabanus. Never mind you have no experience with durian. Your experience in other crops can help. I am a retired man planting some tropical fruits mainly durian. Beside fungal diseases, this fruit has many other problems such as uneven ripening. Some fruits remain hard even after 2-3 days after dropping from tree. When the pulp is hard, not the normal tender soft,could it be due to over N or K. When seeing heavy leaf drop, I applied 1-2 kg of 15-5-20 per tree about 2 months after an thesis. The early clone like musang king takes only 90 days to mature.

I completely agree.
Just back from a trip to Davao, Mindanao island.
Apart from the cultivated ones, there are thousands of Marang, Mangosteen, Soursop and Durian trees growing beautifully without any care.
Soil in that area is of vulcanic origin, naturally rich not only in N, P and K but especially in Iron, Manganese, Zinc, Magnesium, Sulphur, MOlibdenum, Boron.....all these micronutrients make a HUGE difference....together with a neutral-slightly acidic pH....

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Today's harvest
« on: July 22, 2018, 06:21:11 AM »
Nobody deserves good harvest more than you, growing stuff on those rocks,  ;).

Unfortunately you're right  :(
I'am just back from a trip to my mother in law in Davao (MIndanao Island).
Seeing all those durian, marang, soursop, mangosteen trees growing effortlessly with an amazing dark brilliant green foliage makes me so envious!
And all this mainly because of that great soil they have there....There are thousands of soursop trees growing along the roads without any care and they look just beautiful no sign of nutritional deficiencies, chlorosis far from the situation i've here where you've to struggle to let your trees grow decently....

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Today's harvest
« on: July 14, 2018, 10:38:25 AM »
Thanks everybody it's nice to share a happy moment it's my way also to thank everybody  for the so precious advices i got from this forum members  :)

YES This passionfruit is super sweet.
But not just PLAIN sweet.
there is a slight hint of sour and a complex bouquet of aromas making it irresistible.
This is not a named variety, it's just a natural random hybrid from the several plants I'm growing.
Quite weird the  "hexagonal" cross section of the fruit rind  ;D

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Today's harvest
« on: July 14, 2018, 05:47:34 AM »
The sweetest moment for a fruit enthousiast....   :)

ANANAS - local native variety 1.8 kg
MANGO - var. KEITT first ever fruit produced by this tree 1.3 kg
GUYABANO - SOURSOP - local variety super sweet 1.2 kg
GUAVA - local variety pink tasty flesh  220gr
AVOCADO - var. Modena 590 gr. (fell from the tree too early because of the strong wind)
PASSIONFRUIT - local variety 180 gr.
SARALI (Flacourtia Jangomas) average 9grams

I've always hated all kind of papaya bought in the store.
At the best they were tasting like a BAD MELON (that i don't like)
But i've a variety i currently grow in my garden (it's unnamed probably a natural variation of the red lady) which is tasting AMAZING sweet with notes of VANILLA.
And you you squeeze on it some passionfruit then it's just heavenly.... :P

Try a GOOD papaya and you will change your mind!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this calcium deficiency ?
« on: July 14, 2018, 05:30:51 AM »
Long drought during fruit growing stage & insufficient irrigation

You answered yourself, that's the reason.
Shortage of water impairs the uptake of all nutrients included also calcium....

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pomelo pruning
« on: June 15, 2018, 12:54:04 AM »
Your post sounds like a joke but...there is some truth in it!
As i noticed for my experience (and not only for citruses but in general for all fruit trees) there are 2 conditions that "force" a tree to flower and bear early:

A- the tree is growing in an IDEAL environment with perfect combination of soil/water/climatic conditions/fertilizing this case tree will thrive and will reach quite quickly an adequate dimension to bear fruits

B- The tree is experience a strong STRESS condition (may it be water deficiency or persts attack or too hot/cold temperatures) something really putting so much pressure on it and undermining even its own existence.
Well in many of these cases the tree will be more prone to flower and bear fruits, it's like an evolutionist urgency to reproduce before the worst might happen.  :D

Well I think your pomelo experienced this kind of B condition while mine is growing in a confortable condition that's why it has no urgency to reproduce now since it can still grow easily :-)

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