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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat Seedling or Cutting?
« on: May 26, 2018, 02:31:02 AM »
well done! Take good care of it, water and fertilize regularly, check soil and pot will surprise you

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat Seedling or Cutting?
« on: May 25, 2018, 08:15:26 AM »
No offence but...... that seedling looks so leggy, ethiolated and emaciated that i can hardly believe those people can SELL this kind of stuff!
Eat some loquat fruits and grow your HEALTHY seedlings then graft them when they are big enough

Citrus General Discussion / Re: HLB & Brazil
« on: May 14, 2018, 09:53:40 PM »
Disheartening  :(

Yes you are right.
The disease is not defeated.
But the high temperature has a similar effect on bactery as fever in human body.
Reducing damatically the bacterial titer (concentration) in vegetative area boosts tree energy pushing  it to flush.
According to bibliography the effect is just temporary lasting for about 24 months.
Better than nothing, before the treatment the tree has been "paralyzed" for more than one year....


20 days after be PET bag removal.

Flushing is really powerful, new shoots are already 20cm (8 inches long) and they're growing fast.
Interestingly they look EVENLY GREEN (thought not deep green being still young) and don't exhibit any sign of HLB.
To be noticed that this tree had very very limited and stunted growth during the past 12 months despite i tried many times to boost its energy with watering, pruning and fertilization.
Until now my experience with thermal therapy is very positive, let's see the future evolution, more updates to follow.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: May 07, 2018, 02:53:25 AM »
So it's normal my avocado who has fruitlets of about a walnut size has about 60% of leaves yellowing and falling down?
the lower portion of the tree with less fruits looks still green

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: May 06, 2018, 10:49:33 PM »
I agree 1000%  ;)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: May 02, 2018, 05:02:21 AM »
BEES are the key!
I know pollination is the crucial stage and in my case everything is more difficult since only 2 trees  are flowering and they are far from each other....i will try to find a bees hive for my garden

Get a carpenter bee nest.  They are really small and easy to make.  Honey bees are more complicated.  I searched "carpenter bees of Phillipines" and it looks like they use carpenter bees to pollinate passionfruit there.  So if you make a carpenter bee hive, they should come live there.  It's worth a try.  Much easier than dealing with honey bees.

You may be able to get carpenter bees by just drilling holes in a piece of wood.  Look it up, I haven't made one but they sell simple bamboo ones at the store.

Sounds extremely interesting!
i will give a try, thanks for the brilliant idea :-)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: May 01, 2018, 09:08:34 PM »
BEES are the key!
I know pollination is the crucial stage and in my case everything is more difficult since only 2 trees  are flowering and they are far from each other....i will try to find a bees hive for my garden

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Burdekin Plum
« on: May 01, 2018, 04:03:22 AM »
wow they look amazing i love the color for sure they're packed with tons of powerful antioxydants :-)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: May 01, 2018, 03:50:17 AM »
I'm really IMPRESSED to see the fruit set you can get with your trees!
I consider myself LUCKY when my avocado tree sets ONE fruit every 10 flower panicles!  ;)

But this is a bit different.
It looks more of a protective screen to PREVENT young trees to be infected by the HLB.
Thermal therapy is meant  to cure trees which have already been infected

Update number 1:
Exactly 10 days after removal of plastic cover some buds appeared.
Probably  the combined effect of heavy pruning, watering/fertilizing and hopefully some health improvement caused by the thermal therapy.
Now I'm a bit more confident, for some days I thought i had killed my tree by steaming  ;D

The top of the tree is still "dormant" probably the very high temperatures hit hard here:

The lower portion looks more active

Let's see what happens in the next weeks, more updates to follow

Ah that's why. this could be a reason.
Also calamondin is prone to greening here and affected trees usually look very ugly

Isaac I ask you a maybe stupid question: are there other trees in the nearby whose roots can get to your satsuma?
I had exactly the same "weird" yellowing pattern on one of my pomelos a couple of year ago.
At last i found out it was rootbund by a thick net of feeding roots from a neighbour tree (a muntingia calabura) which were literally suffocating the pomelo interfering with its normal nutrients uptake

unfortunatley the tree planted in the ground are far from each other so i would need several greenhouses to enclose them all.
Moreover temperatures are constantly high here, it would be a severe challenge to keep acceptably cool inside.
As for now all my trees in the ground are (sigh) unprotected.
I noticed several pomelos affected with greening here in the philippines.
In most cases, non professional growers are absolutely unaware of the disease and its gravity.
Anyway, for some unknown reason (maybe the scorching sun?) noone of the affected trees was severely crippled by the HLB.
Some leaf yellowing, scarce foliage and fruiting and reduced vigour but nothing apocaliptic as i've seen browsing pictures of citrus greening worldwide

I can do for my small clementine and femminello zagara bianca lemon because they are still potted and of manageable size.
But the ponderosa lemon and the 3 pomelos (1 seedlings 3 grafted )are in the ground and too big to be enclosed in a screen

This is the temperatures the system reached during the 4 days of treatment under scorchy summer sun.
To Notice it was just 11 am.
Thermometer was placed in the lower portion of the tree so very likely in the upper portion they were several degrees higher

And this is how the upper branches tips appeared at time of bag removal: STEAMED by heat

This is how i pruned the tree. About 30% of the canopy has gone.
Now it's looking really awful hopefully it will  flush within some weeks, updates to follow

I removed today the PET bags.
Unsurprisingy some damage happened in the upper portion of the tree, part of the foliage got literally steamed.
I measured temperatures of about  42C (110F) in the lower parts of the canopy, probably in the upper portions temperatures climbed to 45-48 C (115-118F) so it's normal.
I pruned the tree quite heavily reducing the canopy size of about 30%
Then i drenched the tree with several pails of rain water and soluble fertilizer N-P-K  20-5-30 + chelated microelements.
Here now is full summer very hot and dry.
Pictures and updates to follow.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
« on: April 22, 2018, 08:02:39 AM »
It sounds vert interesting hopefully it has the bright red color of tarocco orange and the woderful taste of clementino :-)

The difficult is to find the balance between a good therapeutic effect and a moderate heat damage.
In greenhouse for sure much easier than I'm trying to do in open field.

Parthenocarpic fruits have same flavour as ordinary ones, they are just seedless like most of bananas.
All depends on variety and od growing conditions (soil, climate, fertilization, watering....)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Success from Seed
« on: April 21, 2018, 12:30:10 AM »
I was probably very lucky but i got an avocado seedling fruiting in less than 4 years and bearing fruits of excellent quality

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Manila mango -9b
« on: April 21, 2018, 12:23:20 AM »
Locally Manila mango seedlings ungrafted take about 6-8  years to fruit

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