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Cherry of the rio grande and GUABIJU should be ok, When I was at Adam's at FFF
he had Barbados cherries planted out side? Also Uvaia should work. 

Check out what huertasurbanas is selling, He is from Argentina and has stuff that
will work. Very nice seller and he will inform you on low temps that his plants can
take. Miguel pt from Portugal has a 9b greenhouse and his property is 9a. He has
a wealth of info and experience.

There are some real zone pushers on this forum and can give pointers on how to
stretch the limits. I am in 9b on the edge of 10a and also find myself pushing. I have allot
of mulch and organics around my trees and on cold nights I water heavy and this year I got
30F one night and got through it ok. I have a cotton candy tree and it got burned a bit
but not seriously.

I find myself checking the records temps for my area and it can get really cold here
throughout history. There were record nights in the teens here in the past. Scary!

Welcome to Florida!



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never had a chewy and firm sugar apple before.  Can anyone confirm Na Dai here are indeed chewy and firm?  Even when they're over ripe?

I had over two dozen Na Dai last year from 4 trees. You could peal them by hand and the texture
was firm. I cut them in chunks which made the seeds come out easier. What a delicious fruit. I got
another unnamed type from the motel in town. The skin did not peal off and I cut it in half and ate
the contents with a spoon. It was equally as tasty as the ones I produced. Both types were seedy

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat Seedling or Cutting?
« on: April 14, 2018, 07:03:49 PM »

I have Peluche, Vista White, Tori, Avri, Novak and Puppelo. I will have to see which ones I can get scions from. Let me know what you decide to do.
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Wow that's an impressive list. Do you get fruit from them all yet? Which is your favorite?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla choice
« on: April 13, 2018, 02:58:52 PM »
I've had both makok and silas woods -- both for about a decade. I strongly believe the silas woods to be a seedling of makok. Here are some of the things I've noticed:

 - Silas fruits are better tasting. They are white fleshed and have a smoother, honey flavor, where makok is more of a strong piloncillo flavor and a dark brown color. (Silas fruits will look and taste more like makok if allowed to ripen on tree.)
 - Both trees are extremely productive and very precocious. Both also produce fruit year round.
 - Fruits on both are small, but silas tends to be just a hair larger.
 - Silas and makok both get raided heavily by possums and raccoons -- they are the cause of broken branches. Silas is slightly more brittle than makok, but broken branches are an issue on both due to the animals that climb the trees to harvest the fruit.
 - Both trees are dwarf, but makok might be just a hair smaller and slower growing.
 - Makok can suffer from a ripening issue where some of the flesh is soft. I never fully figured out the cause.

The silas is a better tree. I ended up yanking my 13 year old makok.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=piloncillo+pronounciation&&view=detail&mid=FA6440EAA4F1608D20F4FA6440EAA4F1608D20F4&rvsmid=198DCA858A5684491C0B198DCA858A5684491C0B&FORM=VDQVAP

Thanks I learned a new word, I actually like the taste of piloncillo and
it is a perfect description of the taste!
The only origin I have heard is that Silas Wood came from Pine Island?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla choice
« on: April 13, 2018, 02:51:26 PM »
I've had both makok and silas woods -- both for about a decade. I strongly believe the silas woods to be a seedling of makok. Here are some of the things I've noticed:

 - Silas fruits are better tasting. They are white fleshed and have a smoother, honey flavor, where makok is more of a strong piloncillo flavor and a dark brown color. (Silas fruits will look and taste more like makok if allowed to ripen on tree.)
 - Both trees are extremely productive and very precocious. Both also produce fruit year round.
 - Fruits on both are small, but silas tends to be just a hair larger.
 - Silas and makok both get raided heavily by possums and raccoons -- they are the cause of broken branches. Silas is slightly more brittle than makok, but broken branches are an issue on both due to the animals that climb the trees to harvest the fruit.
 - Both trees are dwarf, but makok might be just a hair smaller and slower growing.
 - Makok can suffer from a ripening issue where some of the flesh is soft. I never fully figured out the cause.

The silas is a better tree. I ended up yanking my 13 year old makok.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=piloncillo+pronounciation&&view=detail&mid=FA6440EAA4F1608D20F4FA6440EAA4F1608D20F4&rvsmid=198DCA858A5684491C0B198DCA858A5684491C0B&FORM=VDQVAP

Thanks I learned a new word, I actually like the taste of piloncillo
The only origin I have heard is that Silas Wood came from Pine Island?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat Seedling or Cutting?
« on: April 13, 2018, 02:43:27 PM »
I have 2 1/2 acres, well I did have that much room once. I have remote places in my
yard that I could plant it. Even seedling trees produce eventually and you could wait and see.
If you don't have allot of room then you could either graft a known cultivar on it now or plant it
and graft different scions later?  I have never seen loquats offered from cutting or airlayering?
That should tell you something? How big is it now? My neighbor gave me an 18" seedling in a one
gallon and I ordered a peluche scion from California. It arrived in 3 days wrapped in buddy tape and
I grafted it. Pretty simple and it is pushing growth from the top? The scion cost me $8 including shipping.
If you have a multi branched tree you could graft a couple branches with different types and leave one to
see if it turns out to be Vista White. I prefer non cocktail trees and have some room to spare. When I
run out of room or if I had less space it might make sense. Wait a month and have a guy call up Willis
and ask them if they carry grafted loquat trees.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Achachairu fruits for first time
« on: April 13, 2018, 09:52:58 AM »
I used to live in Mississippi and had to buy a lot of tropical plants online. I've used this site called plantogram before and they sent me two pretty healthy tree. They often have the Achacha tree in stock but right now it's out of stock. I see a 3 gallon for $130 as of now.

https://plantogram.com/product/achacha-super-fruit-tree/
There is a forum member who was recently selling them from Puerto Rico for
much less. I got some last year along with a cinnamon apple from a different forum member.
Check the search and do a little research. Also a forum member was selling seeds not too long ago.


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I hope you like the fruit?
Not everyone does.
If you are like me then you will end up with both the makok and silas wood.
And the Haysa and the morena....
If you can only get one tree, try to sample the fruit. I like the makok the best.
My two Silas wood are growing better though and eventually will have more fruit


The Yucatan types sounds really interesting, I can't wait for a report on their
taste and performance

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat Seedling or Cutting?
« on: April 13, 2018, 09:29:00 AM »
Willis orchard is also Ty Ty nursery. They have a poor reputation.
I bought a white mulberry from them and also a Pakistan mulberry.
The first year I planted them I got small black fruit on them?
The trees grew great but never fruited again. Not only did they send
me the wrong trees they sent me trees that need cold to fruit.

I have heard you can root loquat cuttings but I have never had one root? I have only tried
a dozen times or so. If it is a rooted cutting it will produce allot sooner then a tree
grown from seed. Supposedly the trees don't grow true from seed? It has white
fruit but you may have to wait 5-7 years to find out.

I would find a more reliable place to purchase trees. Why does a nursery sell trees under more then one name?

Better yet plant 6 seeds and graft your own. There are some awesome people on this forum
that sell scions, recently a member sold me a peluche scion and so far it is pushing. I planted 6
more seeds to try next year.

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Thanks for the info guys, if Alano blooms year round would that mean it would fruit all year round? Sorry Iím a bit confused   ???
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I ate a makok last week and have a silas wood on the counter.
Both trees have large and small fruit on them and they are flowering profusely.
The only thing that slows my trees down is cold weather. It does seem like
they flower heavier in the spring. Last year I had 100 small fruit on my makok
and I cut off 4 for ever one I left. It just keeps on flowering! 

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I have 4 different types besides alano and they are all flowering now.
It won't be long and you'll be eating your first fruit
Good looking tree for what it's been through. Why the double pot?
If you can't put it in the ground I would put it in the bigger pot?
It seems like allot of tree for that smaller pot?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla choice
« on: April 12, 2018, 03:28:21 PM »
I wouldn't leave out makok as an option.
It is also dwarf and so far it is the sweetest I have tasted and a good producer.
This past winter I was 30F one night and 32F two nights in a row. My trees were fine and didn't drop
fruit. My trees aren't 3 gallon size, they are a couple years old. I have 4 types of grafted trees
in the ground and makok is my favorite. For me there is no such thing as a bad sapodilla.
 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat - when is it ripe ?
« on: April 12, 2018, 12:58:52 PM »
I like to eat them when they are a little green, which makes them a
bit more tart. You can peal them before you eat them. The one in the picture
looks ripe. There are so many types, some are more orange and there is a
huge tree down the road from my house and every fruit has exactly one seed.
I have seen some have as many as 3-4 seeds. I may end up grafting that tree?
The best thing I like to do is get a handful and sit outside in the shade and peal them
and spit the seeds as you go.

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If you have a Diamond R in your area they sell 50 lb bag of Nutricote for a little
under $60. I have a Daimond R in my area and usually they have the best deals

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If I end up with a couple of extra sticks, sat 2 or 3, anyone local to the palm beach area interested?
No guarantees I will have spares but if I do and there is someone in the Palm Beach or Jupiter area that is interested pm me.
Pm sent

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Peanut Butter Tree seeds.
« on: April 06, 2018, 02:32:24 PM »
I have B argentia and it is flowering now. I had fruit all last year and should be getting it
soon as it has finally warmed up.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Atemoya pollination experts please...
« on: April 05, 2018, 08:06:42 AM »
Why not try and hand pollinate a couple flowers and mark them?
Later on you can see the results. I have some atemoyas and sugar apples that
were flattened by Irma and I had to stake up. All of them survived and are flowering
heavy now. ITS SPRING! Or probably we'll head straight into summer temps who knows.
Some of my trees last year fruited and not every flower produced a fruit. Sort of like an
orange the trees held a reasonable amount of fruit. If you have some time I would defintely
hand pollinate a couple flowers. Like everything else there is a great youtube video available.

Of all the trees effected by Irma Every Annona I had was flattened which may indicate how shallow their
roots really are. If your tree was in a 25 gallon it may not spread out as much as you think. Last year
was the first time I ate sugar apples and atemoyas. What a delight.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Do you like jujube fruit?
« on: April 04, 2018, 08:30:31 AM »
Chinese jujube is grown in temperate zones. I believe the Honey Jar is a Chinese variety.
I live in 9b and tried to grow several Chinese jujubes and so far they have not thrived or fruited?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado ID
« on: April 01, 2018, 08:21:34 PM »
Seems like a weird time for Florida avocados unless they were chilled somewhere?
I get veggies twice a week from my Sav-a-lot to feed my tortoises and the avocados from
my store say Honduras right now. I planted 6 seeds last year and used one for rootstock and
planted one in the ground. The one in the ground from seed is doing real well and handled a
couple nights in the low 30s without protection. It has a split trunk and I thought I could graft
2 different scions to it. But I kinda want to see what it turns into and I planted it in a far off corner
bordering 2 neighbors. I will attach a link to PI website that has pitures of some avocados

http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/variety-viewer-variety-avocado-reference-1



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From what I read having an A type and B type is only necessary for commercial groves. For the
ordinary grower one tree is sufficient. If you want another tree then maybe pick one that ripens at
a different time to increase the time frame you have avocados? Three years is not that old and it may take
a couple more years to have production? The good news is your tree should grow more without fruit this year
and produce more fruit next year?

I also live in Florida and both of my trees which are Mexicola Grande and Lila flowered heavy this February. But
we had a cold March compared to a warm February. We had a couple nights in the high 30s in March after many
of my trees had flowered. I imagine you may have even had frost where you are? This may be your reason you
didn't have fruit? My Lila is loaded and my Mexicola doesn't have any?

I expect to have issues with mangos and avocados in this area because of late cold nights?  In my area I know of several
old lone trees that produce regularly.  I wanted to post a link to Hopkins nursery which is
  http://www.hopkinstropicalfruitnursery.com/
I can't access their page now but they have a very good description of avocados regarding fruiting time and temperatures
that the trees can take. Also the fruit color and size. Personally I would only consider types that will do good in your area.
Hopefully their website will be back up, there is a ton of good info

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How cold does this tree get in it's range?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat grafting
« on: March 31, 2018, 06:55:57 PM »
Socal sold me a scion from a peluche. I only had one seedling to work with and he
took the time to sell me one. He also wrapped it well in buddy tape and I got it in 3 days.
It has already pushed at the top and I am very hopeful. He also had avri and big jim
available. Super nice seller and it only cost $8 total. I actually planted 6 seeds for a next year
project. Check the For sale in the past 4 weeks and maybe he still has some?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Sapote: USDA and SES 2
« on: March 23, 2018, 02:20:54 PM »
 I've never heard of Supersweet so have no idea where I would be able to get one.

Fruitscapes in Pine Island.

The tree is flushing heavy now and I could spare a few scions later if it turns out to be a winner.
I expect to be with that name?

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