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I am pretty sure the White shatoot and Australian green are the same tree?
I have heard the large leaf type I have called Shangri La and Tice???  Actually it would be easier to say
Mulberry common names are very confusing. Some of my trees I started from a
cutting and I bought some. I got the White shatoot from Just Fruits. The tree was started
from a cutting but I have tried dozens of times and can't get it to root.

I have a rooted cutting of the dwarf everbearing and I could get some more rooted if you are
interested. I promised a couple for people and don't mind making extras. I live about 25 minutes
East of Ft Myers. PM if interested. They are pretty much out of season or you could come and
sample them.  I always have seen 2-3 types available at Echo. I bought a contorted mulberry off
Ebay a couple years ago. It was a rooted cutting and came from a guy in St Pete. It has fruited
sparingly but the fruit is very good on the smaller side. It is finally taking off this year growing and
hopefully next year will have more fruit. I like contorted trees and look forward to it getting big.

My two trees look great and seem to like the humid wet season. My trees drain real
well, my whole yard does? Does it have fruit/flowers? Is it in the ground or pot?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulberry and Lychee recommendations.
« on: July 17, 2018, 05:03:25 PM »
I don't think Persian mulberries like humidity?

I have 7 types of mulberries and each year one seems to shine,

I have a large leaf tree that gets as bis as an oak. I have heard it is Shangri La
but common names are very inconsistent. It has very juicy/messy large fruit that
are very good. I also found a tree on a corner of some guys property. It is also a
large tree but has smaller leaves. He said he bought it in Homestead and had an
unusual name for it. It also has large slightly sweeter fruit then the Shangri La.
I definitely wouldn't expect CA mulberries to perform or taste the same in Florida
I have heard allot of people rave bout the Black Pakistan mulberry and so far it
has tasted like crap in my yard? But the birds love it. The white shatoot is very very sweet
and I prefer to dehydrate the fruit. I also have a couple dwarf everbearing types.
I would try some fruit and if you like it most types root very easy from cuttings.
It seems like every time I stick 3 cuttings in the dirt 2 of them root

The lychees I would get the Hakip, because of the smaller seed. I have a type called ohia
I got from Fruitscapes and one of the selling points was it does better in 9b? Mine has not
fruited yet maybe next year?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Site Outage
« on: July 17, 2018, 12:00:07 AM »
Am I the only person who thought maybe I got individually banned. The error message
was new and said something about my address. I thought maybe I pissed someone off???

I had my wife try it and she couldn't get on either then I was really bummed imagining
the end of this forum? I will be glad to pitch in

I also had  just ordered some new seeds, I know I said I wasn't going to start any more projects this
year but I promise this is the last project what's 20 more seeds?

21 F  Ouch!

It usually takes a week to show damage, how long ago was the cold?
How many hours was the cold? I have many of the same species I even got some seeds from you,
it's good to see they can handle these temps. Stay warm!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Spraying with Minors and the Rain
« on: July 09, 2018, 02:47:14 PM »
I have been spraying twice a month around the 1st and 15th of each month.
If it rained within 2 hours I would do it again.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Biriba (Rollinia deliciosa) seeds
« on: July 08, 2018, 01:24:06 PM »
Did any of the floating seeds sprout?  Three quarter of the seeds I received are floating.  Only a few have sunk so far :(

Give them a try and wait. What do you have to lose? Keep track of the split seeds it will be interesting
to see the results of split seeds vs non split seeds. Some Annona seeds it is recommended
to scarify the seeds? If the embryos are not harmed they may germinate easier?
I received some purple sugar apple seeds from 2017 and I did the same as you.
I soaked for 24 hours and half of the seeds sunk. I planted those and put the others in
a baggie with damp vermiculite. So far one has sprung up.
The one seed that germinated was a sinker
I just received the seeds so I will have to report later. I have heard from other forum members
that Annona seeds can still be viable when they float? I have had Anonna seeds take over 6 months to

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Biriba (Rollinia deliciosa) seeds
« on: July 08, 2018, 11:09:12 AM »
Give them a try and wait. What do you have to lose? Keep track of the split seeds it will be interesting
to see the results of split seeds vs non split seeds. Some Annona seeds it is recommended
to scarify the seeds? If the embryos are not harmed they may germinate easier?
I received some purple sugar apple seeds from 2017 and I did the same as you.
I soaked for 24 hours and half of the seeds sunk. I planted those and put the others in
a baggie with damp vermiculite. So far one has sprung up.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: COTRG stem/limb die back?
« on: July 01, 2018, 11:31:22 AM »
I have a tree that I got and gave some synthetic fertilizer to and it almost killed it.
I only gave it rain water and manures and it started thriving. It is now 8 feet tall and
doing great. It flowered real heavy this spring but then we got cold and only about 50
fruit set. It flowered again and most of the fruit was small and seedless. It was completely
flattened by Irma and had to be staked back up. I have another tree I got as a plug and it
was growing real well. It has totally different leaves and it flowered this year as well.
It is 3 years old and about 4'. It didn't set fruit and the center trunk died and I have had to
cut off allot of dieback. I am not sure why? The two trees get the same water and manure.
I also have a Calycina that is growing real well but hasn't flowered yet. The fruit is very good
on the 8' tree and is very much like a Northern cherry. I try to order new seeds from different
sources every chance I get. The tree is so variable.   

What do you recommend grafting onto?
Sugar apple or cherimoya or other?


If the tree has the adequate amount of nutrients it will start to flush new leaves.
Those leaves will be green, hopefully the tree will have a growth spurt this year.
You have 2-3 months left. I would use the miracle grow also.  I don't think you can
over fertilize a peach tree. With the rainy season upon us one good rain and the
fertilizer is gone. Maybe do the granular one week and the root drench the next.

I would fertilize every other week with a pound of fertilizer.
The heavy rains could wash it away but keep fertilizing. A pound is not
a lot and put the fertilizer in a circle away from the trunk. That peach tree is starving
to death.  Peaches are HEAVY feeders. If you have miracle grow drench the roots once
a week. Diamond R 10-10-10 is only around $15 for 50 lbs.  Diamond R also sells a 25 lb water soluble
bag of 20-20-20 with micros for around $30. It's basically miracle grow. Also water at least 3
times a week.  It probably didn't flower or fruit because it didn't have the strength? Do you
go to the Diamond R in LaBelle? I knew a guy who got young newly grafted peach trees and
with Diamond R 10-10-10 and pond water his tree's trunks were bigger then my thigh in 2 years
and were 8' tall.

Can you snap a picture?
Peaches are very heavy feeders and love fertilizer.
What are you using for fertilizer?
Do you have a well or city water?

In the past I have used 10-10-10 Diamond R fertilizer with micros and
my peaches were very green and seemed happy. It turns out I had heavy salt
in my well water and it didn't seem to bother the peaches? Now I am using
manures and spraying with miracle grow every 2 weeks and the peaches seem
happy. in both regimens I was giving the peaches plenty of micros. 

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Seeds shipped into US
« on: June 20, 2018, 08:38:45 PM »
If you get the seed permit don't the seeds need to be shipped without dirt of any
kind? If the seeds take 1-2 months to leave their country like Brazil how would they
stay moist and not desiccate? So many seeds would not make the trip without moist substrate???


Do you have a low chill type? Are the old leaves getting this before they drop or new leaves?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are Pitangatuba Self-fertile?
« on: June 18, 2018, 10:09:32 PM »
If this is the first time it flowered I wouldn't worry, if it is still doing it next year
But what the heck if you like the fruit get another plant or two or ten.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: PPC atemoya to plant or not to plant
« on: June 17, 2018, 10:11:31 PM »
I would plant it now. water heavy and avoid fertilizer. I have 3 types of atemoyas and
they are very easy trees for me. If you lose the fruit this year you'll get it back next year and
then some?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: seeds
« on: June 17, 2018, 09:00:05 AM »
Hi Everyone

I use a similar mix but I think mine has vermiculite also. Maybe you are keeping too wet?
I don't see algae on mine and we are in our humid rainy season. I plant the seeds on top
of the dirt maybe a thin layer covering the seeds. I got 12 Garcinia braziliensis seeds earlier
this year and I left 4 in a baggie with damp vermiculite and 2 germinated and then I placed in
potting mix. I am liking this method more and more. It is easier to leave seeds in a baggie on
the counter, I tend to want to over water. Also vermiculite is easy to wet and squeeze out
excess water. Seeds don't spoil in this mix even after several months? I am trying some Luc's
Garcinia and jumbo Luc's Garcinia seeds now

How long does it take for these to germinate?  I have had them in soil for about three weeks now and have not seen any signs of germination.  One of the seeds looked like it was germinating before I planted it but have not seen anything come above the soil.

I hope I haven't been over watering them.  I have them under some tree canopy and a shade cloth above them so they don;t get any direct sun but still see filtered light.   I mist the soil surface with a garden sprayer every morning.  Fingers crossed!

I had 10 out of 10 germinate. Some took about a month and others took 2-3 months.
I recently started germinating G. braziliensis seeds and put 6 in pots and left 4 in a baggie
with damp vermiculite. So far two germinated in the baggie in about 6 weeks and I put in
pots. I have some more Luc's Garcinia seeds and I think I am going to leave them in a baggie
with damp vermiculite. So far every garcinia seed I have ever attempted to germinate has even
G. dulcis in the cool winter. They took 3-4 months but 6 out of 6 germinated. Now if I can figure
out how to make them grow fast.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet tart mango
« on: June 14, 2018, 10:32:01 AM »
How often do you tip? Every 12"?

Is that the one with big leaves?
Common names of mulberries are confusing

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee: Seed vs Air-layered
« on: June 10, 2018, 07:45:56 PM »
If you have room plant an air layer and plant a seedling.
I planted a couple grafted avocados but last year I planted 6 seeds and one of them
has a double trunk. I planted that one and I grafted a different one. I thought one
day I could graft 2 different types on this double trunk one? The seedling made it through
a 30F night and didn't blink. I am actually liking it more and more and want to see what it
turns out to be. Plant 10 lychee seeds and pick the best one and graft the others?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: rooting jabouticaba
« on: June 10, 2018, 07:25:57 PM »
there are many successful brazilian experiments, I read that on scientific papers but I cant find them now...

normal materiales: vermiculite, no rooting hormone was better... the best time was spring and autumn, not summer nor winter. Indoors.

It didnt worked for me but I should try harder!!!

Do you remember if the cuttings in vermiculite were kept in indirect light?
I can't imagine they were in full sun?

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