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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: 2021 seeds
« on: February 25, 2021, 04:06:37 PM »

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: scions/cuttings
« on: February 25, 2021, 02:15:26 PM »
Does Tice fruit well in 10b? Have heard it is the best tasting mulberry, how do you like it?

the original Tice came from homestead. It does lose it's leaves completely every year.
The mother tree is about 12' high and 20' wide and one year it had a huge crop  of big
juicy staining very sweet mulberries. It is similar to the Shangri La but sweeter.
It was the best mulberry I have ever eaten, way better then the World's best. I guess its
the Universe's Best? Anyway I got cuttings from it but my tree is not huge yet. Last year
the fruit were small. It also has huge leaves as big as a dinner plate but not all the leaves
are Huge

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Pitomba
« on: February 23, 2021, 08:16:10 PM »
I had them the past few years but it's too early now.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Letting young Mango trees bear fruit?
« on: February 23, 2021, 02:25:59 PM »
Maybe another way to look at this is how long does it take a seedling mango to
flower? I have heard 5 years occasionally but more like 6-8. In nature it takes
a seedling at least 5 years to produce flowers. What's it doing the other 5+ years.
As Rob keeps telling you it's developing the root system. When you buy a grafted
mango you basically have a seedling tree that would not fruit for 5 years at the
minimum. Do you want 100+ mangos in 5 years or do you want 2 inferior mangos in 2 years
and maybe 3 the next year?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: scions/cuttings
« on: February 23, 2021, 10:39:57 AM »
Trice scions arrived today... will get out the grafting gear tomorrow morning.
Thanks Mike


The Tice mulberry cuttings should root in dirt easy

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruiting Barbados Cherry from seed.
« on: February 22, 2021, 10:29:29 PM »

Is it possible to get cuttings from the tree that produced the sweet fruit?
They have rooted real easy for me but they take a while

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: scions/cuttings
« on: February 22, 2021, 07:17:18 PM »

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: scions/cuttings
« on: February 22, 2021, 07:15:32 PM »

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: scions/cuttings
« on: February 22, 2021, 07:09:28 PM »
Do you think Ilama would graft to "Annona sp."  "Golden sugar apple" ?

Did the golden sugar apple come from Top tropicals? I stopped by there last
year and bought some of those seeds to include with an international shipment
I was doing and they look like pond apple seeds to me? If it is a pond apple
it should work?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: 2021 seeds
« on: February 20, 2021, 11:44:13 PM »
Add Silas wood sapodilla

trees are starting to bloom all over
I have 5 different jaboticabas flowering right now inlcuding white, red, grimal, sabara, and restinga

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: scions/cuttings
« on: February 18, 2021, 08:24:12 PM »
do you know the difference between the "Zills dark surinam" and the "black star" variety? there should be a better resource out there for the named cultivars

I am glad Kevin responded I have never eaten black star and can't make a fair comparison
The Zill's were very sweet last year much better then the previous year
They are loading up with flowers now

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: scions/cuttings
« on: February 18, 2021, 08:18:33 PM »
Is dasyblasta a surinam cherry variety? What's it like?

It is Eugenia uniflora dasyblasta a subspecies of suriname cherry
The tree has a small red fruit that is very unusual flavor. It is spicy and
I have heard that description about other fruit and it didn't live up to it.
To me this fruit has a strong spicy note and suprises you when you see
it's size. The tree is suppose to be very cold tolerant and it is a smaller tree
but produces very heavy. My Zill's dark produces heavy in the Spring and continues to
produce through out the season. The dasyblasta produces heavy in the Spring and
that's it

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / scions/cuttings
« on: February 17, 2021, 08:01:26 PM »
Some of my annonas are pushing and it's time to graft
all scions are $4 each

sugar apple (all my Sugar apples were grown from seeds)

Na Dai
Vietnamese Na Dai
Thai Lessard
Isan Indigo
Big Red
Thai #1 Red
Thai #2 Red limited easy peal

Atemoya (all grafted trees)
Lisa  very productive
Pinks mammoth limited

custard apple (seedling)
red bullock

ilama (grafted)
Red Genova

Crosses (seedlings)
Sugarlata sugar apple x custard apple
Saramoyo Giant Pink Yucatan limited

Zills dark suriname cherry grafted
Barbados cherry Fl Sweet

shangri la
Pakistan black
White shatoot

LSU Purple
LSU champagne

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: annona rootstock
« on: February 17, 2021, 01:20:47 AM »
It makes most sense to use the same annona as the rootsock.
i.e. graft atemoya on atemoya and graft ilama on ilama whenever possible
There is a graph that has compatibilty of annonas in an older post if you

Hereís what I found out about using nitrogen on mango trees. MAY NOT BE TRUE!! Yes I took a chance this past year and fertilized my trees with a 9-3-6 liquid fertilizer thatís complete with all the micros and I applied it sometimes every week or 2 weeks and some times once a month and guess what.....besides having beautiful looking trees I have blossoms on almost every tree. OF 30 varieties Im only waiting now for my Peach Cobblers to pop.  Now this year may go down in history as one of the greatest mango seasons of all time for everyone so maybe this year it did not matter when I used nitrogen but I did nitrogen straight through Feb 3 and the experiment was a success. And I intend to continue using this complete nutrition year round on my young trees. Now using a 9-3-6 granular fertilizer is a completely different story because granular can easily burn. And with granular if you donít get it perfect it doesnít get into the tree. Too many variables like needed water or water washing the granules away from the tree. But burns is the biggest problem because if you love your trees too much you give it too much. Itís only natural. So you put granular down and a month later you put more. If it didnít get enough water the past month and then you reapply now you get the new granular working plus the residual from the previous month. Say you use a sustained release that lasts 3 months. Same thing too many variables. If one applies a liquid fertilizer itís quick and easy and it goes right down and if it rains it pushes it right down deep where the roots can absorb that nutritional blend that doesnít need to first be dissolved. But this year I used the 9-3-6 on all my trees from 1-36 years old and this experiment has put my mind to rest on the use of nitrogen on mango trees as relates to fruiting. As far as increasing my trees height and girth aI donít care because 1 time a year after harvest I reshape them way way down. I am in control and I love this vigorous exercise thatís required. But it is a pain in the neck getting rid of all the cuttings. Here is how it all started. I burned the heck out of a lot of my trees by using weed and grass killer. The leaves and many branches died and a ton of leaves got terribly discolored and stained and too many new leaves were coming out looking diseased. So I had to push the heck out of my trees to grow and I had to remove all the ugly leaves. Thatís how this crazy but successful experiment began.
Which liquid fertilizer did you use?
Please do a follow up after the fruiting season, You said the flowering is off the chart
but how is the actual yield and quality of fruit?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Most Disease-Resistant Macadamia?
« on: February 16, 2021, 03:30:12 PM »
It would be nice to know what happened to your Beaumont
I have heard the best things as far as productivity and overall health and vigor
in Florida about the Beaumont. It is also self pollinating which should not be an issue
if you have 3.  I would get another Beaumont and plant it in a different area.
I also would consider getting other Hawaiin or Australian types if you have the
room. I have 4 types and know they can be a very challenging tree for Florida.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Those are not lizard turds
« on: February 16, 2021, 03:18:03 PM »


Poor post on ur behalf acheta, i think if you are goin to post on the forum, dont just put a pic from a random jabo a say ďfinallyĒ u can ellaborate more

It is Coronata var restinga and I thought when you click on the picture it comes up
at the bottom of the picture as the name you saved it?
It wasn't meant to confuse anyone. After three years of mistaking white lizard turds as
flowers it was nice to see actual flowers

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Those are not lizard turds
« on: February 16, 2021, 03:12:06 PM »
Which variety we talking' here?  8)

Coronata var restinga

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Those are not lizard turds
« on: February 13, 2021, 08:00:22 PM »

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango suddenly dried
« on: February 13, 2021, 04:26:00 PM »
The longer it holds those dead leaves, the worse it is for it.

Is this the same advice for young mangos in the ground?
I have around 5 trees that have burnt leaves from the cold, should I cut them back now or
let them fall  off? The thin branches look brittle as well

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: which jaboticaba to grow
« on: February 09, 2021, 08:40:39 PM »
If I had to do one I would do red
Thin skin, multiple crops, small seed,
I throw a handful of sulpher around my trees on the first
of every month. I live in Florida though and you should ask locals

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / 2021 seeds
« on: February 07, 2021, 11:34:26 AM »
I am getting a few early seeds

red jabo                    1.00 flowers now
haysa sapodilla          1.00
Silas Wood sapodilla   1.00
Na Dai  sugar apple   1.00 Winter fruit for the first time
Thai jujube               1.00
starfruit                    1.00 from my mystery super sweet variety

2020 seeds
Lisa atemoya                    1.00
Thia Lessard sugar apple   1.00
geffner                       1.00

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: jujube
« on: February 06, 2021, 08:20:36 PM »
There was an Asian guy with a nursery in the town below us here in Costa Rica. He sold jujube and his method was to cut them back to the stump about a month before the rain started here, so in April. I was there one day right before it started raining and saw a bare stump in the ground and asked what it was. It took me forever to find the latin name and english name of the plant so I didn't know what it was at first. I went back after a couple months to get some more things and this plant had put out at least 10 feet of growth and was covered in flowers.

I do this every Spring to my 2 trees and by July they are 12 x 12

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: jujube
« on: February 06, 2021, 11:49:30 AM »
I have 2 jujube and every year they flower in July and again in the Fall for a Winter harvest.The
July bloom never sets fruit. One year I tried to air layer a large branch in June and the air layer
didn't take but the whole branch ended up covered in fruit from the July bloom?
I also noticed last year a guy who has around a dozen lychee trees and he was airlayering most
of the trees last May All the trees that were being airlayered had fruit and the couple that didn't have
air layers didn't have fruit set

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