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Gary Zill

So its now confirmed that Phoenix is a Jakarta seedling not Dot.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« on: May 17, 2019, 03:47:08 PM »
M4 is the best coconut flavor mango Iíve tried over coconut cream, Pickering and E4.

 This mango will fill up ur stomach due to its juicyness & coconutty flavor. It will leave u satisfying. Highly recommend this variety.

on stunted mango trees that grow only 4 feet in 4 years, dont bother, those are root bound or their roots are not establishing, I have yanked suck trees only to find the trees hanging on tiny roots, barely staying alive. Mangoes takeoff in 2nd year and if they dont by 3rd, there is permanent problem, you are better off yanking them, I dont recommend 15 gal mango trees to be put into ground, majority of such potted plants are root bound and dont respond well unless you get lucky OR really know how to push them hard.

I concur.

My 3 gallon turpentines do fairly better than my 15 gallons turpentine.

Good thread Simon!

I would Add a few that are reliable. The only one I question from your list is Kesar. Iíve had lots of drops with that variety. Here is my list:
Harvest Moon mutant
Villa Clara
Ugly betty
Juicy Peach
There are many others but I canít think right now.

I believe the LZ was added by mistake. In areas where fungal disease pressures are lower, LZ can produce very well like it does for Gary in Palm Springs but in many other locations, LZ appears to fruit poorly unless sprayed with fungicides.

This year, I tried to spray my LZ trees blooms with the hose about once a week, no fungicides, and so far my fruit set looks good although I expect much of the fruit to eventually drop. Powdery Mildew actually doesnít like moist conditions and overhead spraying is supposed to wash away the spores although my training in microbiology makes me feel that overhead spraying may also spread spores lower down the canopy.

Thanks to Chris and Har from Truly Tropical for their wonderful video on ďSpraying when mango trees have young fruitĒ.
I will take Harís advice and try spraying with Silica and Kelp in the hopes that my tree will retain more fruit.

First 3 photos are LZ... so far no problems with PM. I dont spray copper or sulfur except foliar seaweed every other night.

Sweet tart..

Im stoked to see new growth compare to old growth of OS on letting this tiny os hold fruit once it sets.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Coconut flavored mango
« on: May 04, 2019, 05:45:04 PM »

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2019 Indian Mango Season
« on: May 03, 2019, 01:53:15 AM »
Had a couple of kesars. I wasnt impressed. Tho these are better than any store bought mangoes such as manilas, ataulfos. 😂


Multi-graft tree I purchased from Frank ~2 years ago. It has Sweet Tart, Juicy Peach, Zinc, and Puneet. The tree overall has grown poorly with the ST and JP grafts are doing the best. Both are flowering now with no signs of PM. The other two grafts have done nothing.

So far with my experience with JF mango trees they seem to be flourishing on a harsher environment . Here a few trees i got frim him grafted on a manila rootstock.

16/1 variety

Recently planted guava

Lemon zest finally setting fruitles. No PM noticed as i dnt use any spray

Peach cobbler

It may be possible u are doing something wrong. What are u using to fertilize ur trees?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: S> taralay
« on: April 30, 2019, 12:11:47 PM »
Surinam cherry 'red' 7 gal $100

$100 taralay

Add sir prize avocado scion 4$ per wood minimum 5 plus shipping

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What happened to my sugar apple?
« on: April 28, 2019, 02:04:08 AM »
Probably rootrot

Selling taralay on turpentine for 100.

Local pick up SoCal

Its very tough to grow mangoes especially in my area. A few branches were infected with antrancnose.

My interventions was to cut/ remove the infected part. Scrub neem oil and turmeric powder. Then seal it with iv organics paint.

Great job Paul. Perfect example of what cultivars work on turpentine. All of our guavas died in turpentine on on Manila type rootstock (carabao) itís vigorous

I had 2 buttercream, 2 guavas from Lynn that died on me last uear on turpentines. So far so good. Some turpentines work here in my experience. However, manila or some specific seedlings work better than turps.

Coco cream seedling

Honey kiss seedling

 2 e4 on left to mid, right pina colada seedlings

Orange sherbet turp

E4 on turp

Honey kiss turp

Sweet tart turp

Lemon zest on carabao

Peach cobbler(formerly 2in1) on manila -2years old pineapple pleasure graft died

Pugged lemon meringue on manila - did not like the way ppk was growing.

Corriente with some grafts

Taralay on turp

Guava on manila

Os on turp

Kathy on turp

M4 on turp

Pina colada on turp

Buttercream on turp

Phoenix on turp(pot)

Pina colada on turp (pot)

I recently planted 16/1 mango in-ground recently.
As u can see i put 25 gal pot and torned the bottom pot to encourage roots not to go through the sideways (at least for the pot's coverage).

It would be interesting to see how it grows year by year.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya Masterpiece
« on: April 21, 2019, 12:27:28 PM »
Beautiful tree Behl! I use to like multigrafted trees that was until a few years growing then 2-3 cultivars will take over the tree. Behl, it looks like you selected yr var. well....

Would be interesting to see which outgrows which.

Price updated 25 gal barbados cherry 'florida sweet' $160 local pickup only

Annona scion sale is over.

For those that are looking for Annona wood, JF will be offering them during the fall season.

All orders were shipped today. Thank u for all that ordered.

Price updated 25 gal barbados cherry 'florida sweet' $150 local pickup only

Will be shipping calostro tomorrow morning to those who ordered

Are these supposed to be sub-acid? The couple I've had so far have been really sweet but with no detectable acidity.

I remember Raul mentioned that if u want with sub-acid u go with the sharpie variety..

I suppose u have the regular luc variety. How does it taste compare to mangosteen and what fruit is it comparable to? Like an improved achaacha?
the Sharpie is not more tart but more intense flavors either sweet and tart, level of sweetness depends on ripeness yellow hard will be sweet /tart with crunchy tart skin, fully ripe and soft only sweet no crunchy skin...

Thanks for the clarification, Raul.

Will be happy to see u post photos of the lucs species once u go there.

Unidentified (seedling of Lisa accdng to JF), arka sahan -OUT

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