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I am very impressed with everyone's set ups

jimmy_va- I've been considering doing something similar to your set up some time in the future....I often think we have the ideal weather in the eastern half of the northern US for growing tropical plants summer and it's nice to let mother nature handle all the heavy lifting during that period so the grower doesn't have to

Carolyn- I really love when growers have personal connections to plants they are's quite the gift to your extended family that you can offer this small piece of botanical life from your daughter in-laws birthplace and you get share those experiences with them (:

Butter Tree and Monkey Orange are new to me too, any reason you have a more African species than the average grower?

Wow Carolyn...Holy crap indeed! Your list is very impressive and with plenty of things I didn't expect to see. I especially wasn't expecting all those tropical nut trees and I had to look up Njangsa. White Sapote, Cambuca and some species of Theobroma are on my list of things to try soon. You can also add Papaya and the more uncommon members of the Solanaceae family to the list of things of failed to grow despite trying.

oh and nice catch kevin :) I've edited my mistake

hmm maybe it is an issue with my seeds being too old as all the seeds I've tried to grow have come second hand and may have sat around for a while...the next time I can get a hold of good anonna fruit I'll have to try again

yea I've had to learn which plants need better draining soil the hard way

as for Peruvian Apple Cactus fruit I haven't had it yet but I've heard good things...I would guess mine is about 3 years away from fruiting

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Purple passion and lilikoi in half shade?
« on: December 02, 2019, 01:16:19 PM »
Hi Daintree if you do decide to put them outside and depending on how tall the pot is I might consider protecting them from rabbits.  The rabbits in my area absolutely annihilated my passion fruit last summer, but it could have been an odd/bad year as they seemed to go after almost everything

brian: Nice to hear you're having success with citrus...even with supplemental light they really seem to suffer for me in the winter

daintree: I'm also interested in some of these spectacular failures...I agree from the general sentiment that you learn more from failure than you do from success


-Anonna Fruit: I've tried my hand at growing a number of anonna fruit from seed from cherimoyas to sugar apples to atemoyas along with a few others. I have struggled to get them past the seedling stage when they get stuck in the helmet head stage (sprouted but with the hard seed coating still attached) and seem unable to force the seed coating off. Not sure if this is an issue with old seed or my growing conditions, but I've had this issue time and time again.  The second issue and the nail in the coffin for me is that besides summer the few plants I've managed to get past this stage (a cherimoya and an atemoya) have really struggled.  They've put on a little growth during the summer and then died that winter or next spring, I feel like I haven't been able to give them the conditions they want.  I'm open to any suggestions.

-Starfuit seedlings: They seemed to either get sun burnt or to not be getting enough light and eventually died

-Banana passionfruit: While it grew very well on my porch in the summer it always suffered in the winter where it seemed like it was either getting too cold or not enough light and was constantly plagued by spider mites who ignored pretty much every other plant except my plumeria...decided to give it a chance in the garden where the rabbits promptly ate it to a stub 

-The numerous things I've failed to sprout from seed (bananas, star apples, star fruit relatives, a number of passiflora)

Partial Failures:

-High sun low moisture plants: While I've technically kept my dragon fruit plants and baobab alive they've struggled outdoors where they are getting too much rain and indoors where they are not getting enough light

what I'm currently growing:
*Note I've put seedling next to plants trees not because they are still seedlings, but to note that they were grown from seed

Phoenix dactylifera                        Date Palm Seedling
Adansonia digitata                        Baobab Seedling   
Punica granatum                          Pomegranate Seedling   
Citrus sinensis                        Moro Blood Orange Seedling
Carissa macrocarpa                        Natal Plum Seedlings
Ficus carica                            Common Fig (Ischia)   
Ficus carica                                Common Fig (Olympian)   
Hylocereus guatemalensis        Dragon Fruit (American Beauty)      
Hylocereus Hybrid                        Dragon Fruit (Edgar's Baby)
Psidium cattleyanum                Strawberry Guava Seedling   
Psidium cattleyanum var. littorale  Lemon Guava Seedling
Eriobotrya japonica                         Loquat Seedlings
Coffea canephora (robusta)          Coffee Robusta   
Cereus repandus                    Peruvian Apple Cactus   
Ugni myricoides                         Black Chilean Guava Seedling
Ananas comosus                         73-50 Pineapple    
Plinia cauliflora x aureana         Red Hybrid Jaboticaba   
Mangifera indica                         Pickering Seedling   Mango   
Mangifera indica                         Angie Seedling   Mango   
Eugenia brasiliensis                       Grumichama Seedlings
Psidium guajava                         Common Guava (Waiakea Guava Seedlings)
Citus junos                                    Yuzu Seedlings

Lemon Guava (P. cattleyanum var. littorale)

I started some Lemon Guava from seed a little less than 3 years ago back in January of 2017 and the seedling that I kept has produced 7 fruits for me in a two gallon pot. It's in need of an up-potting which I will try and do in the spring at which time I will probably prune it back to promote branching and keep it at a manageable height. 

I've enjoyed the fruit which tasted to me (in my very limited experience) like a mild slightly sweet lemon flavored pear with a hint of that typical guava flavor.

hi guys glad to hear there's at least some interest...and I'll post a quick running list a little later after I run around town a bit...I've put together a post on my first fruit here in a sec...

Hi All I'm creating this thread to document my success and failures growing tropical and sub-tropicals in Wisconsin. I realize this topic might only have limited interest for those who live in tropical areas, but I hope that it can be a resource for those who decide to try and grow these plants outside of their comfort zones and serve as a source of encouragement.  I have up to this point grown all my plants in pots and moved them outdoors in the summer and indoors in the winter where I use supplemental lighting in the form of Compact Fluorescents and LEDs. I'm starting this thread now because now 5 years in I am starting to have success fruiting some of these plants. 

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Can pawpaw be grown in Twin Cities area?
« on: October 27, 2019, 12:02:50 PM »
My experience with growing them in Wisconsin in Zone 4b (La Crosse, WI) and what I've heard from other growers in the area (my recollection is that the Twin Cities are 4a) is that seedlings seem to handle the winters here fine, but that young grafted pawpaws sometimes are killed off. In zone 4b in an unprotected location I've yet to get grafted pawpaws to survive more than 2 years....while 8 of the 9 seedling pawpaws have survived those same winters with no problems.  Where I live in Madison 5a they seem to have pretty good luck with grafted pawpaws so you might have luck in a micro climate or a protected location or if we just have a few mild winters so that they can size up.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Shasta Gold mandarin
« on: February 17, 2019, 10:56:03 AM »
I whole hardly agree with you on Shasta Gold and I've been trying to promote them the past few years ( and I've had some luck in my area, though Satsumas are still king popularity wise. Since Shasta is later than Satsumas though it's easy to point people in that direction once the Sats have run out.  I've also had a chance to try Yosemite Gold which I like quite a bit. Haven't had a chance to try Tahoe Gold.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pachira variety?
« on: December 21, 2018, 10:04:24 AM »
I've heard (and I'm not sure if its true, but it seems logical) that the soil and the microbes in the soil are actually the ones doing the heavy lifting when it comes to air purification

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: September 10, 2018, 12:15:42 AM »
Thanks for the far only one out of 12 seedling trees is being attacked and I see no sign of a current infestation so I'm just going to roll with it unless I see issues again next year

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: September 09, 2018, 05:40:40 PM »
One of my pawpaws apears to have been eaten by insects which is a bit strange since I thought insects mostly left pawpaws alone due to the compounds in the leaves

The Phillipine/Carabao I got from him were very good, if I order another box Zill is definitely on my hit list

If you are growing a poly seed and you didn't separate the segments before planting do you guys recommend pulling them apart at some point or just growing them in the same space?  Also could you trim any unwanted seedlings at the stem without causing rot issues for their poly brethren?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: what do you plant indoor?
« on: July 25, 2018, 10:08:48 AM »
ha i don't have a small star...but I do put them on my porch in the summer so they're indoor plants 7 to 8 months a year with 4 to 5 months they are not completely indoor plants...the plants have northern exposure both inside and out for which in the winter I do use a plant lights as supplimental light....when I lived at a place with a southern exposure the plants did great without supplimental light...all that said they seem to doing great, with the pomegranate blooming like crazy in only its 4th year from seed

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: what do you plant indoor?
« on: July 24, 2018, 03:38:39 PM »
The stuff I've had the best luck with so far are sub-tropicals and tropicals from non equatorial areas, including:
strawberry and lemon guava
natal plums

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: regrow pineapple
« on: July 24, 2018, 03:31:56 PM »
Yes, it is very common to propagate pineapples from their tops...I will post a wikihow below...I would only dry for two or three days and I would skip the toothpicks, but otherwise this is an ok basic guide

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Ruth mango
« on: July 17, 2018, 10:37:03 AM »
So I've been ordering boxes of mangoes from Tropical Acres, which have been amazing.  One question has cropped up for me though; I just put in a custom order which included a variety called Ruth which I can't find anything about.  Do any of you know anything about this mango?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: what kind are these? Store bought.
« on: July 10, 2018, 11:43:06 AM »
you can somtimes see which variety it is if the grocery store stocks the cases out...should be marked on the end of the box...if dont see any cases out you can always ask an employee which variety it is by having them look at the box

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Best time to relocate Fig?
« on: July 09, 2018, 11:06:58 AM »
my guess is the same as yours...fall after it is completely dormant...that seems to be when most tree nurseries move their trees and you'd have to think they somewhat know what they are doing

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting mangos of 2018
« on: July 09, 2018, 10:04:56 AM »
Pineapple pleasure has been my favorite so far...great flavor, amazing texture and wonderfully juicy.....other excellent mangos have been edward, duncan, lengra and angie

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