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They need some sun.  Try partial shade then in a week or so more sun. 

To be honest I put mine out in full sun right away if its 60-80f out but since you had them inside you might want to work them back in sun slowly. 

This one is avocado but its the same as cherimoya for me.  In mild weather, fresh grafts can be in full sun. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Making my cherimoya flower!
« on: May 23, 2019, 08:11:36 PM »
yeah its an interesting case study for sure about seeing how atemoyas perform here and cherimoyas won't... my lowest temp here is about 55 degree F.      its actually hilarious as i write this that there are 1000's of posts on this forum with everyone trying to grow stuff wanting the higher temps and here i am wanting the low temps!  haha

Is this why i don't hear about many of you california guys growing atemoya??  cause its too cold for atemoya there?   sounds like cherimoya is prime in california tho.

Atemoyas grow fine here too.  Cherimoya tastes a lot better to me. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Name that cherimoya
« on: May 23, 2019, 01:33:02 PM »
It could be a Dr White. My Dr White looks more like the fruit in this video. Note that the two fruit in the video look slightly different even though they came off the same tree.

Dr White typically has a vigorous upright growth habit but can be influenced by the rootstocks.


Its looks pretty much the same as fruit #1 in that video.

I agree with the bottom line part Joe.  Thats what counts.  The hass looks like hass.  They look very green still.  I suspect it will get very black of left on the tree longer. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Name that cherimoya
« on: May 23, 2019, 12:33:52 PM »
Im really bummed if its dr white.  Ive already got a dr white and la verne "vietnamese".  The trees can be top worked but theres 2 years down the toilet.

Joe, they (mexicola) seem to be all seed and no flesh for me.  And they hang on the tree about a week at the most before falling off and becoming bird and mouse food.  And its hardly flowering here while every other tree is overloaded with flowers. 

I've never heard anyone say they would take mexicola over hass.  Makes me wonder if you are only comparing to store bought hass.  Im pretty sure a proper hass will mop the floor with most avocados. 

Speaking of hass, whats the deal with growing them in your area joe?  Can it be done?  Or if not what is the problem?  The heat, the cold, both?  I read the central valley farmers really want to grow avocados but hass wont grow there.  I grew up in Stockton/san joaquin county by the way and never grew avocados until moving to san diego county.

  I've heard nothing but good things about the Mexicola.

Im here to say bad things about mexicola. My mexicola has a date with my chainsaw coming up.  :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Name that cherimoya
« on: May 22, 2019, 04:08:18 PM »
Yes I picked it today, didnt realize it was there until today.  I dont think its a knight since my knights dont have the bumps.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Name that cherimoya
« on: May 22, 2019, 03:47:34 PM »
Tree was labeled el bumpo from the nursery.  Not sure which nursery grew it but apparently mislabeled. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: GEM avocado in Los Angeles area?
« on: May 21, 2019, 11:38:46 PM »
They are a real company its not far from here.

The collection in kept in a gene bank cryopreserved, it will not disappear unless war comes. And even then there is a gene vault in Norway which has almost all citrus, unless nuke war comes. You never know!

They have all citrus seeds or all citrus plant material preserved?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Reed avocado thread
« on: May 20, 2019, 02:46:37 PM »
Heres some pics of a couple baby trees I planted these 1.5 years ago.  They are already 6-8ft tall. If I had to redo it, I would have trained all my reed trees on a 10ft T post. 

You dont like hass avocados?  :o

This thread was recently posted about the aravaipa.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Stolen container trees
« on: May 19, 2019, 03:43:30 PM »
He needs a hidden trail camera. 

Spaugh, thanks for the link to the rootstock/size explanation.  It was excellent, and very clearly explained.  It should be very helpful to our members.

Greg has new articles every week.  He sends an email notification every friday with a link to the articles if anyobe wants to subscribe on his site.

I'll have to try out some C35. Let me see if I can find some seed or seedlings. I'm growing lemons from seed right now to use as rootstock for my lemons. I know Eureka for one doesn't do well on trifoliata rootstock.

I only have 1 lemon tree.  Its on C35 and it is growing awesome.  Its all fun and games for the first 3 or 4 years then the trees start getting out of hand. 

Durling uses C35 on their standard trees.

Check this website out Barath.  This is a fellow member GregA's website.  He says la verne uses C35 on everything.

Trees on "standard" rootstock (la verne, durling nursery) are very vigorous here.  Just be careful what you wish for you could end up with a 20ft tree.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Reed avocado thread
« on: May 19, 2019, 11:19:50 AM »
My tree

Thats a perfect looking tree. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: May 18, 2019, 09:49:13 PM »
Does anyone in southern CA have a mexicola tree that produces good crops?  Anyone in southern CA love or hate their mexicola tree?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Reed avocado thread
« on: May 18, 2019, 02:34:10 PM »
You can shake the tree and make it drop a lot of fruit but its still too much to thin by hand at pea size.  Look how many fruit there are.  Thats just a tiny branch.  Easier to just wait a couple months and let the tree do its own thinning and then decide if it needs more.  By the time they are golf balls, the tree will have already shed 99% of the fruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Reed avocado thread
« on: May 18, 2019, 01:15:25 PM »
I just let it drop what it wants then come in mid to late summer and remove more when they are like golf ball size.  At that point the tree has already ditched the losers.  Right now when they are pea sized, I might go shake the tree a little and speed things up and knock half of them off.  What I dont want is the tree to put a ton of energy into fruit thats not going to be there for the long haul.   

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Making my cherimoya flower!
« on: May 18, 2019, 12:37:36 PM »
Do you get any chill hours?  I think cherimoyas need some minor chill time maybe 100+ hrs

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Reed avocado thread
« on: May 18, 2019, 12:26:42 PM »
Once the tree sets fruit it will slow way down. 

My reeds set pretty much every flower.  They drop most but still hold 2-3X more than they can.  I go in around July or august and do some thinning. When they are young they will drop the fruits early(this time next year) if you dont thin down to the proper fruit load.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Reed avocado thread
« on: May 17, 2019, 10:00:28 PM »
Why would you remove leaves on a leader?  Just cut it off if you dont want it.  Removing leaves on avocado is going to leave the bark exposed and burnt. 

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