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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guava Grafting (top work)
« on: November 21, 2019, 09:27:32 PM »
Do you guys think its an ok time to tip work guava or better to wait until spring?

I would wait until temps warm. Late summer 2018, i did some guava grafts. Only one was alive after 2 weeks. The live one struggled through winter only to die in spring.

thanks, I will wait.  Has anyone chopped a guava tree down to a stump and bark grafted on a large trunk?  I don't want to ruin the tree if the bark grafts are unlikely to survive. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse heating invention
« on: November 21, 2019, 09:15:05 PM »
Why dont you bury the exhaust and build a thermal mass around it?
Because the stove is soo well designed that the exhaust as you see it stays cool to the touch.
If i add a fan to chill the bell as my original intention was,then the exhaust would be even cooler and im talking about like 8 hours of continuous use.

Interesting.  So does the bell get red hot or how hot is it?  Need to be careful not to touch it?  Does it radiate too much heat for a plant to be near it?
The bell gets 150-180 degrees C right in the middle of the top part and gradually lowers to 60-70C on the lower part.
The exhaust gets 40C temp.
It doesnt glow red but it will get higher temp after il enlarge the feeding hole a little more in wich case i will install a fan and somme tubing to move the heat from the bell and chill it.
Plants can be kept near this without a problem .

Nice, you can cook on it. 

Honestly your rocket heater is the coolest thing I have seen on this site in a while. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guava Grafting (top work)
« on: November 21, 2019, 04:58:49 PM »
Do you guys think its an ok time to tip work guava or better to wait until spring?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best method / time for top working guava
« on: November 21, 2019, 04:54:38 PM »
Did you ever do this project?  I want to top work a mediocre guava tree also but not sure the best way.  I had zero success grafting guava in the past. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya Season 2019 (So Cal)
« on: November 21, 2019, 03:54:15 PM »
Honeyharts and knight.  Although now I am questioning the knight variety.  It looks the same as honeyhart and is earlier than the other trees.  Chaffey and fino de jete are almost ready then dr whites will take longer it looks like.  Im really liking the knight and honeyhart fruits.  They are consistently 25+ brix, juicy, strong flavor, fairly low to reasonable seed count.  Both trees are vigorous and produced a lot of fruit.  I had some other lavern trees mislabeled so Im thinking the knight is maybe actually a honeyhart.  It is smoother exterior than pierce. Looks just like the honeyhart fruits. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya Season 2019 (So Cal)
« on: November 21, 2019, 03:41:18 PM »
 10 or so fruits have ripened up now with more that need to be picked.  Some of them had fallen off the tree and the stem pulled out.  But they were perfectly ripe.  Todays was super good with brix of 26 and tropical bubble gum flavor.  Also tastes like a white sugar tropical version of sapodilla.  Similar sweetness level and texture with more acid and tropical flavor.  Thats the best description I can come up for someone who hasnt had them before. 


I like to cut it like this and de seed it so the seeds dont slow down the indulgence.






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse heating invention
« on: November 21, 2019, 11:18:50 AM »
Why dont you bury the exhaust and build a thermal mass around it?
Because the stove is soo well designed that the exhaust as you see it stays cool to the touch.
If i add a fan to chill the bell as my original intention was,then the exhaust would be even cooler and im talking about like 8 hours of continuous use.

Interesting.  So does the bell get red hot or how hot is it?  Need to be careful not to touch it?  Does it radiate too much heat for a plant to be near it?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse heating invention
« on: November 21, 2019, 10:09:41 AM »
Why dont you bury the exhaust and build a thermal mass around it?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Fingerlimes harvest
« on: November 20, 2019, 04:44:33 PM »
What do you do with finger lime?  Ive got some fruit but really not sure what to do with it?  Seems more like a novelty tree.

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Leave it to grow.  If theres others planted close to it, their roots will dominate this one and never allow it to grow properly.  Its at the top of the support almost, just let it get over the support then cut it and it will branch out. 

Heres a pic of a support with 1 year old S8 cuttings.  You can see the other supports in the background have same growth rate.  I grow the cuttings in pots until they are 2 meters tall then plant them on the supports in April.  That way all plants start with nice root system and equal size and none get dominated by others. 




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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Lucy glow apple
« on: November 19, 2019, 12:26:15 AM »
Anyone seen these pink flesh apples?  Anyone growing it?  I guess its patented and hard to get.  They taste amazing and look cool too.  They have them at sorouts in poway. 

Theres a store locater on this website if you want to try them.  I think they may be the best apple ive tried.
https://www.chelanfresh.com/lucy-apple/

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I doubt that is a problem but maybe.  Hard to say without seeing it.  The DF vines bend over the top of the supports and get loaded with weight and dont seem to slow down at all from bent joints.  As long as the central vein is intact they seem to be fine. 

Is the S8 plant sharing root space with other plants?  Was it planted after the others?  One thing I noticed is you can't put a new cutting into same rootzone as larger plants.  The roots DF are like a big sponge and quickly crowd out their container or planting area.  Once theres mature plants on a support you cant add a new cutting. 

Other than that, I havent noticed much difference in growth rates between cultivars if everything else is equal. 

Anyway S8 is a great DF, you should not get rid of it.  Its the one Im propogating most of to plant more here.

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S8 is not a slow grower at all.  Im growing a lot of types all in a row east to west all getting full 12hrs of sun facing south.  Pretty much every type grows the same or very similar rate.  I have more S8 plants than other types and they all grow quite nicely.  Its got a hard exterior that resists cold and heat damage.  The only fault I can see woth it is the fruits are small otherwise its easily the best one Im growing.

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Right now I'm just running the electric milk-house style space heaters on freezing days/nights.
These heater go for about $20 each.
Most days they need no supplemental heating.
I'm not trying to maintain a tropical climate around the clock... I just want them to survive the freezing temps.
It's pretty interesting the way plants can adapt to the temp variations.
It's not unusual for sunny day temps to reach 100F+... with some night-time temps going into the 30Fs.
The plants seem to take it all in stride. They are much more flexible than you might think.
In fact... My citrus had it's best year ever. As did my Pitangatubas, Cherry of the Rio Grande, Guavas, Starfruit, Jaboticaba etc.











Nice Kevin, good job with the plants and GH.

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Wouldnt it leak a ton of heat to the outside air with a pipe exposed running across the yard?  Unless your water heater fuel source is much cheaper than electric i think this would be counterproductive, and if it were you could pipe that fuel to a small heater inside greenhoise

I think you are right and it would make more sense to pupe natural gas or propane to the GH and run a gas heater directly.  No losses, no pumps or other junk. 

Easiest is probably get a big propane bottle and run the heater off it. 

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: thornless mexican/key lime harvest
« on: November 15, 2019, 04:51:11 PM »
It is friday...

Best margs ever are fresh sugar cane juice, a couple fresh squeezed key limes, and a shot of real tequila over ice. 

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Sugar dragons taste better, I would use it if you are space limited. 

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Shen 2 of 3 sakip grafts are growing now.  The 3rd looks still alive and may grow.  It was really hot/dry/windy for a few weeks and the buds had broken the tape but still survived and are growing now.  Longan seems pretty tough and can be grafted in the heat no problem.  I had a lot of avocado grafts around the same time that all got cooked.  Even mango buds got cooked but the scions are still green.  Avocado completely failed this time of year here.  Too hot and dry. 

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: thornless mexican/key lime harvest
« on: November 15, 2019, 03:34:49 PM »
Margaritas...  Maybe too cold there for margs?  My wife makes key lime pies with them usually around new years we have a big harvest but thry do produce all year. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Double Trunk Sweet Tart Seedling .
« on: November 15, 2019, 10:06:05 AM »
If you are going to dig it up you can probably still seperate it now.  It looks a little big to dig up but maybe it will be ok.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Double Trunk Sweet Tart Seedling .
« on: November 15, 2019, 07:45:39 AM »
Ed you can take scions off your seedling trees there and graft onto your mature trees elsewhere in the yard in order to test them out.  Also in the future you can grow the seedlings out in a pot until they are a foot or so tall then pull off the pot and seperate the seedlings into multiple trees.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: CA PSA Pharaoh moth on cherimoyas.
« on: November 14, 2019, 04:42:48 PM »
I had one of these here in Florida on my soursop as well.

Looks pretty similar.  Those thing can chow a lot!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: November 14, 2019, 01:29:22 PM »
That's great to hear.  With the mild CA weather, I'd expect your trees are in heaven.  It wasn't so too hot this summer relative to what we've seen in some other years.  Looking forward to hearing more about your new varieties.

Will be interesting to see if these live up to all the hype. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: November 14, 2019, 11:42:09 AM »
This has been an excellent year for avocados here.  Im most excited to get to try sharwil, jan boyce, and ardith in spring. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: November 14, 2019, 11:18:44 AM »
If you pinch them off it will just make new ones.  Just let do what it wants, it will probably set some fruit and hold onto them. 

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