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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit identification
« on: Today at 05:28:47 PM »
Magnolia grandiflora, mon

Yeah, I can't restrict these beautiful plants into pots, because they really seem to necessitate being in the ground.  I am in an area where a couple people have Babaco planted in the ground and it seems to manage just fine. Worst comes to worse I'll divert all water away from the tree.  And if even then, I would root cuttings.  I have found that planting them in a shallower, yet larger pot seems to be their preferred home. 

My palandensis in pots are growing in Baby B.U. potting soil, and they are fed compost tea every so often.  Keeping it organic and very light on the nutrient regiment, and they seem to be stoked.


I have 4 or 5 V. palandensis that I've grown from seed. I planted one in the ground this spring and it is just exploding! Heres one leaf that is about 3 times the size of my hand. It has begun its lateral branching and is a dense beautiful, healthy vasconcellea.  I'll post some pictures tonight, because it's really very nice.  Hopefully it will tolerate my clay soil this winter, haha.

Because, I think the knowledge of my process should be shared with anyone, I would gladly answer any questions!

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB: Manilkara zapota scion
« on: June 29, 2018, 12:06:28 AM »

Gonna get this monster here pretty soon!

In the past I've used straight Coco Peat in a sealed tupperware container.  I am trying it again in a Promix HP and another with the Coco Peat. Will report back with results, but Coco peat has been pretty effective with all my tropical seed starting.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / WTB: Manilkara zapota scion
« on: June 12, 2018, 12:17:25 PM »
Getting a big mature seedling tree that needs a bunch of fresh scions grafted onto it. Interested in any variety, Can probably take scion from the range of scented marker (3/4") to pencil size(1/4"). Will be interested in getting scion in next week.

Thank you!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: June 11, 2018, 02:33:37 PM »
Dang, such horrible font color choice on that website.

I think E. calycina is a different species of Eugenia all together. I'm pretty sure Rio Grande is E. aggregata or E. involucrata.

I got a flowering and I think he said fruiting Sabara for 450 in southern california this past spring.

Haha oops, my bad getting my Psidium collectors mixed up!

Will do, they are in the growth chamber still but should be keeping them under a light for a month or so.

Have had aewsome germination on many of the Psidium species miguel! The eugenias and myrcianthes are also all doing well for the most part. Thanks again! super stoked

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Piper methysticum cutting
« on: May 31, 2018, 12:00:15 PM »
I got some cuttings through fruitlovers on here. Only have one survivor out of the bunch, make sure to ask for cuttings with multiple nodes!

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: seeds
« on: April 29, 2018, 12:34:48 PM »
Got my seeds yesterday and potted them out into deep cell flats.

Thanks Mike!

This is awesome! Thank you for posting it

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: my first homegrown pickering mango
« on: April 24, 2018, 11:33:26 PM »
You are fruiting mangos in redwood city? I used to live in redwood but just moved to Santa Cruz.

That is awesome!

I've eaten it and I have a neighbor growing it. I've heard hand pollination helps a lot with fruit set.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WANTED: Pineapple slips
« on: March 28, 2018, 08:11:08 PM »
Exotica has a lot of sugar loaf and some other type. Definitely worth checking out!

You can hit Exotica, bonita creek, ONG.  There may be others but those have the most rare stuff.

One piece of advice is check the plants over really well before buying.  Make sure they are in good health and not infested with bugs. I have bought a few rare plants and then get them home and realize they are covered in scale.  Had an avocado tree with persea mites infect my grove also.  Maybe take some neem oil with you and spray the plants before taking home.

Rad, thank you Spaugh! I will definitely add ONG and Bonita creek to my list! Thanks for the advice, I'll definitely keep my eye out for pests, but I dunno if I could hotbox my car with neem for that long of a drive! haha


Heading down on Saturday the 24!

Hey everyone,
I'm about to cruise down to San diego and all around the southern california nursery scene. I'm really interested in getting rare things and some grafted/more mature plants.  I was wondering if anyone might have some of these rarer things or know where to find them. I have a small variety of some rare things I could trade.

Some taxa i'm looking for:
Davidsonia pruriens
Grafted Pouteria
Grafted/Fruiting Plinia
Rare Eugenia
Flowering Dovyalis M/F
and really anything awesome and interesting!

Have for trade:
Vasconcellea palandensis
E. uniflora zills dark seedlings
P. trunciflora seedlings
P. lucuma seedlings from peru
other things

I appreciate any help! Thanks everyone

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Slow hoop house build at the homestead
« on: February 27, 2018, 09:38:58 PM »
Nice, yeah doesn't get too chilly here. Rocketheater sounds awesome, and double will layer will definitely help to keep that heat all in your green house! Sounds like an awesome set up, I cant wait to see pictures.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Slow hoop house build at the homestead
« on: February 27, 2018, 10:26:29 AM »
IF you are planning on having a lot of heat retention in the winter, get the poly latch channel that has room for two layers of poly. I just built a hoop house and one sheet of poly has very little insulation effect. Wish I went with the deeper latch channel  so I could upgrade if i need to.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Joey Avocado in the Freeze
« on: February 22, 2018, 03:30:01 PM »
Mexicola is a really vigorous and cold hardy rootstock.  I leave them outside in 5g pots and they've been through a few frosts this year and last year and have showed no signs of damage.

It's hard to say if the plant is beyond saving without seeing pictures. But planting it in the dead of winter is definitely a very risky wager to place haha.  If I were you I would potentially consider diging it up, repotting it in well draining soil, watering with warm water and keeping it indoors until spring comes around.

You should price out the Poly and shade and a fan and motorized shutters from farmtek and greenhousemega store. 

For a HH that large you will need a really large fan and shutters to refresh the air.  And a lot of poly and shade.  That stuff is not cheap.  You will probably be into it for close to 2500 just for a fan, motorized shutter,  poly, shade, and electrical work.  That does not include all the hoops and framing.  It adds up fast trust me. 

Bigger is better though for sure.  I like your dimensions you have planned.  Thats a great size. 

Trust me on the double poly.  You will kick yourself for not doing it the 1st time.  Much easier to do it to start with.

I just wrapped up my greenhouse and was noticing how my night temps are remaining only a degree or two higher than outside temperatures.  I guess my original intention was to keep frost from my sensitive plants and seedlings, so I'll achieve that. But after putting in so much work on this totally rad greenhouse, I do wish I had gone double layer and given myself that awesome buffer.

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