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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Transplanting a surinam cherry
« on: March 18, 2020, 07:37:49 AM »
You mean never transplant it in the ground? I've read that they should be hardy to about 22F and we normally don't get such low temperatures here.

Also, I've heard that they bear twice per year, so maybe it's still OK to transplant it now and maybe get fruit in the second wave?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Transplanting a surinam cherry
« on: March 17, 2020, 01:27:10 PM »
Hey guys. I've got a few two year old seedlings of surinam cherry (the seed seller claimed they were of a black variety) growing in pots and some of them have started blooming and forming fruit for the first time, about two weeks ago. I'm wondering if it's still OK to transplant them in the ground, or is it too late now?

I didn't have a chance to transplant them so far, because here in the eastern Mediterranean, the nighttime lows are still not high enough and ground frost is a real possibility. I kept the pots outside all winter, but they were on a very large covered balcony so I'm assuming that they had a suitable micro climate that made them start blooming so early. Some of them have even pushed new growth during the winter which really surprised me.

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Did you ever find your seeds i might have bacon seeds avail for 50 cents each plus ship cost, approx how many seeds are you after, Duke seed season over in northern cal and pretty hard to find at least for me.I have duke trees but going to be years before i get any fruit.

Yes, I have found some Stewart seeds so I'm good for the moment.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Annonaceae that are temperate
« on: November 10, 2019, 09:13:28 AM »
nexxogen:
Then you have to take into account the warming during the day.
How old was he at the time of planting?
Did you put any mulch in?

On those cold days, I don't think that daily highs exceeded 8C, sometimes even less. But generally, during January which is the coldest month, daily highs are around 12C.
The trees were about 3 year old seedlings I believe. They were over 1.7m tall. I did not mulch at all. Maybe it's worth mentioning that winters here are very rainy.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Annonaceae that are temperate
« on: October 21, 2019, 06:45:31 AM »
i understand now the temperatures Karenrei 16 oct 2018 wrote,  -5c for asimina triloba, +8c for A. stenophylla, and +10C for annona cherimola, are not the cold limit, but average of winter temperatures in their natural areas of repartition; average doesn't mean cold records, or temperature that makes loose leafes, or branches;
this cold limit is around -20 or -25C for asimina triloba, and between -5 and -10c for cherimolas;

in my place, one night per winter is -4 or -8c, but it usually never frost in the day, but in 2012 it was one hour -16c one night; one little plant that grows every spring from the roots is interesting to survive such exceptionnal records; so yes, i will be very interested to try A. stenophylla :)

Beware as I said the temperate zone has a lot of temperature Variant.
9B is a climate temperate also, a region with-3 c or-5 c is also an area with temperate climate.
And as the member linsecte says cherimola Annona can endure-3 c and even-5 c see more if it is not regular.
But can easily withstand regular freezing around 0 c and-3 c without problem, if there is a warming of the temperatures in the day.

I myself have Annona cherimola who resist a winter in pots and endure several days of snow.
And regular gels with temperature between 0 c and briefly at-5 c at night but the temperatures were generally positive the day.

So yes Annona cherimola can be cultivated in temperate climate. But this is not to say that in a temperate region with lower regular temperature this will succeed.

As the linsect Member also says, we should not confuse:
cold limit with average cold.

Interestingly, my conditions are similar to yours and my 3 cherimoyas all got frozen to the ground this winter after only a couple of nights with sub zero temperatures.

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OK, great, will contact you then.

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Its September already, so I was wondering if anyone has seeds for sale now?

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Need zone 8a fig recommendations
« on: August 08, 2019, 09:42:33 AM »
The white ones are verry cold hardy ,fast fruiting in the second year from planting and really the best for your climate.The black ones are like the turkish figs,verry tasty and quite big.
If you find a fig tree you like,then you can take cuttings ( ask permission) in the spring and just stick them in the soil where you want to plant them.
The white ones make fruit 2 times a year and the first fruits are big and tasty while the second crop its not that tasty.
Here we have a lady that sells somme fig trees that make figs the size of an apple and verry tasty ,just its not too much winter hardy and also grows slow compared to the white figs.

The problem is, I haven't found any that are good. That's why I would rather get a named variety. Also, I don't believe that all white figs and all black figs are one and the same. There are so many varieties that look similar but taste very different.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Need zone 8a fig recommendations
« on: August 08, 2019, 01:36:16 AM »
Thank you for the answer! Well, the only way for me to get named fig varieties here is by purchasing cuttings on eBay. People do sell figs here, but they just name them "white fig", or "black fig", and I do not trust that.

I'll take a look at the forum you linked, thanks.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Need zone 8a fig recommendations
« on: August 07, 2019, 04:48:02 PM »
Hello. I live in Belgrade, Serbia which is in zone 8a, but I've grown up by the Montenegrin coastline which is in 9a/9b and we have excellent fig varieties there.

In Belgrade, figs are growing everywhere, but I have never tasted any that were even decent. All of them are always dry and awful, practically inedible.

I am not sure if this is because of the climate or because most of them are probably seedlings, so I was wondering if someone could recomend some good varieties for zone 8a type climate that I could try and get cuttings of. According to my research, zone 8a should be good enough to grow figs successfully.

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Isn't the Thai jujube large almost like an apple, eaten green and has hardly any flavor? And what do you think cold hardiness of that jujube is?

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OK. Hardy Platas said up there that the season starts in July.

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Bump. It's July already so I suppose the season has already started. Anyone got Mexican avocado seeds to sell?

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How about indian jujube? Is it any good? I've seen some negative reviews on YouTube.

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@lavender87

Thanks for the answer. The problem is, I'm not even sure if it is possible for a live plant from the US to pass our border. I have recently tried ordering some pomegranate rooted cuttings from Italy and it worked, but I'm not sure that it would work in general from any country. The shipping was already expensive enough for me and I can only imagine that the shipping for a significantly larger package from the US would be too much.

I do have two other jujube trees so this would not be a problem. I'm actually living in Belgrade, Serbia, but I've grown up on the Montenegrin coastline, and wild jujubes are everywhere there. In fact, it might be a kind that you don't have in the US. It is small and oval. http://www.zenasamja.me/images/full/1455.jpg I remember trying once a large jujube variety (don't know the name, probably Li), and it was inferior to the little wild one. Very bland in comparison, with less flavor. Not sure if this is a general rule, as I haven't since tried any jujube variety other than the good old wild ones from Montenegro. I have two Lang trees in Belgrade, but I only planted them this year.

I know that grafting also has a low success rate and I never did it before so I figured I would have more luck trying to root cuttings. Also, cuttings should be easier to pack in a small package that would probably pass the customs without any issues.

And yeah, sure, I would definitely go for the superior variety if possible.

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Do you keep them outside in the ground or do you give them some winter protection?

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I've read that it is possible to root jujube cuttings if done properly, like described here: https://homeguides.sfgate.com/cutting-jujube-40417.html

Would anyone be willing to sell some sugar cane jujube cuttings? I'm only interested in this variety.

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You might look for Duke or Aravaipa seeds -- take a look at JoeReal's posts on this forum.  They will have the kind of cold tolerance you're looking for.

I don't know about Duke, but I've read on this forum that Aravaipa doesn't taste very good.

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Unfortunately, -3 is not enough. My only option is a Mexican variety seedling, and scions won't do, as I need a Mexican rootstock anyway. Maybe graft something onto that later on, and of course I would prefer a grafted Mexican variety rather than a seedling, but this is hardly an option for me due to transportation and customs issues, so growing a Mexican variety seedling is my only option.

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Thank you that would be awesome.

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Hello. I'm looking to buy seeds of Mexicola, Stewart or any other Mexican avocado variety. I need them to be Mexican for cold tolerance, so the hardier the better.

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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Mistake, delete please
« on: May 23, 2019, 06:14:47 AM »
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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Ziziphus jujuba in Europe
« on: May 09, 2019, 01:47:21 AM »
Do you protect them during winter?

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