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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit Punch baby mangoes... really red.
« on: August 17, 2018, 09:42:58 AM »
I didnít know about the pesticide id. I was under the impression you add the pesticide to the clay product and then spray. The vendor didnít ask for mine when I ordered, and Iíve been using it for sunburn protection (got the recommendation from Carlos website for avocado sunburn)

Crazy

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit Punch baby mangoes... really red.
« on: August 16, 2018, 11:42:07 PM »
So what are they supposed to look like when ripe or when it is best to pick?

This is a picture of mine last week. The whitish residue is from spraying surround wp a month ago.




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I think he means an off center cut so that the area that is scraped back orpeeled away from the scion is less than the diameter of the scion and matches the diameter or cut of the rootstock.

If the pieces were equal then itís more straightforward, but in this case you will have to make uneven cuts to make sure the cambium matches. Make sure you have a sharp knife! In my experience, being a little undersized (scion cut compared to the rootstock) is ok at this time as the callus forms in any intervening gap so long as youíre pretty close and well-sealed off from the elements.


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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulberry Thread.
« on: August 16, 2018, 11:27:07 PM »
The Pakistan white mulberry when ripe has lavender vanilla and honey overtones with none of the tartness that mulberries typically have. That doesnít mean itís overly or sickly sweet, itís just a pleasantly distinctive flavor.

K


so does anyone have the white mulberry when ripe? how does it compare to the others?

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Ive only done z grafting on citrus but you can try a z graft if your scion is larger than rootstock. Itís a little ha d to describe - better to look it up on you tube. Not sure how effective it would be for non citrus.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: FRUIT LOVERS NURSERY
« on: August 16, 2018, 01:42:38 PM »
Write him a pm. Iíve ordered several times and have always heard back within a day or so.

K



Hi,
Anone has a clue wht happened with Fruit Lovers Nursery. On their web page it says they are closed due to volcanic eruption or something like this. Also my emails sent to Oscar were not answered.

Thanks all,
Dada

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Glad to hear youíre doing well Oscar.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« on: August 13, 2018, 03:46:17 PM »
I lost the fruit and small fruitlets hanging on mine about a month ago.



From the pictures I am seeing posted,  does the m-4 ripen with greenish skin like that, or are people posting green mangoes next to ones that are ripe?  I wouldn't mind a green ripening variety in Florida,  to deter two legged thieves.

From all I have seen over the years, a dull green.  Will it get any color/lightening near the coast, time will tell.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: USPS irradiating packages?
« on: August 13, 2018, 03:09:51 PM »
Hi Brad

I noticed the same thing although Iím not sure how much it damages the plants. I think itís done to help retain moisture in the rootball. I have forgotten to water one of those mailed plants for a week or so (it was in the shade though) and it didnít look water stressed at all.

Did the vendors get back to you on why they do that? Is t water related or can they simply stuff more plants in a box to reduce shipping costs?


Addendum: now hat I think about it, the only real damage I notice on shipped plants is a little leaf burn at the edges. I always chalked that up to the drier weather we have here compared to Florida. Most plants adapt just fine except for my Tikal sapodilla which is stuck in neutral with zero growth flushes. I used itís possible the leaves suffer because the roots arenít able to draw in as moisture in a compromised state, although the degree of lead burn is fairly mild so I imagine the roots are in good enough shape.


I have mailed out some 1 gallon plants and sent them in their pots without any reported issues. I have also seen your plants brad and they are pristine. Very few people take care of their trees the way you do Brad (thatís a compliment!) so i can understand why youíd want someone to do the same for plants you buy from them.  Have you noticed any specific damage or snapped roots?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Bud Grafting T-Bud Graft Method
« on: August 09, 2018, 02:50:34 AM »
I havenít tried bud grafting mangoes but my experience with citrus is that the buds seem delayed in terms of growth potential compared to grafting actual branches with multiple buds. My citrus grafts of 6-8 inches from this early summer already equal or exceed bud grafts from m lay summer in terms of growth and also in terms of branching.

The only caveat I see with this comparison is that my mango veneer and cleft grafts usually only push through 1 node from the scion. Anyone with different experience?

Otherwise congrats Simon! And good luck with your rootsctock experiments.

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Hi Warren

Would love to make it. My parents live up in the foothills of Pasadena and Iíll be seeing them later today, but Iíve got lots of yard work to do today as Iím going on vacation next week. Good luck with the presentation!

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Simon kind of covered it. I would add that fruit punch grows extremely well for me here in orange.

Kesar however is always flowering with minimal vegetative growth. I have 2 branches that are growing from around the graft union that are probably kesar and not suckers but hats about it For growth. Otherwise it has slowly been dying back or flowering for 18 months.

Orange sherbet is growing like lz for me. Loving the heat.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: August 02, 2018, 02:37:01 AM »
I have a nishikawa graft that is pushing right now outside in ground.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: E4 seed: stud or dud?
« on: July 27, 2018, 10:50:20 AM »
How can you tell by the look if it is polyembryonic? I saw it the mosaic like look of it? I have some seeds that look like that, some of which have segments that chipped or fell off pretty easily.

K

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 36-8 Mango
« on: July 25, 2018, 01:02:17 AM »
Ha! You guys got me 😀. I meant to say that it seems like the name implies the mango tastes like mango candy but Iíve never tried one and have to leave it to my imagination.


Quote from: CA Hockey

Creme brŻlťe was more sweet and seemed to just be sweet. Enjoyable still. Never tried a cotton candy but it seemed to me like candy mango.

If you never tasted it,  how can you comment on its taste?

That's funniest thing I've read on forum this year!  :D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: E4 seed: stud or dud?
« on: July 23, 2018, 02:34:14 AM »
The one next to it is also E4. So sounds like it could happen but not sure yet if the tiny seed is viable.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / E4 seed: stud or dud?
« on: July 23, 2018, 01:26:44 AM »
Pulled this out of an E4 tonight. I donít think Iíve ever seen a mango seed so small. Is it viable or is it a dud or the equivalent of a cuke?






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 36-8 Mango
« on: July 23, 2018, 12:16:00 AM »
36-8 had a very mellow rose component to me. Iíve been told thatís the Indian resin component and I enjoyed it very much

Fruit cocktail tasted like a mellow medley of flavors. Also enjoyable... the first one around when it was green. I had another after it turned yellow. At that point the medley of flavors was a mere hint and the mango otherwise tasted like cheese. I couldnít finish a bite and my kids took one bite and spit it out. I kept the seed because I remembered how good the first one was...

E4 was great. Sweet and clean, cooonutty. Kept its flavor throughout multiple stages of ripeness.

Creme brŻlťe was more sweet and seemed to just be sweet. Enjoyable still. Never tried a cotton candy but it seemed to me like candy mango.


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I was at a mango talk the other day where the speaker mentioned she has it on good authority (Richard Campbell?) that a reliable way to choose a clone is to choose an sprout that is neither runty nor too vigorous. Obviously you'd need a few to sprout to be able to compare, but it sounded like a reasonable starting point.

I've collected a few seeds over the weekend. are polys germinated in the same way as monos? Crack open the seed and pull out the embryo and plant away?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: July 13, 2018, 09:32:45 PM »
Jack, how are grafts holding up?

I had 1 take and the rest ended up failing. They were green for about 2 months and then started to shrivel up. Eh. Not that I doubted you, but it seems that in my hands grafts do better earlier in the year. That being said, it was 80s and 90s here in Jan and February this past year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brutal heatwave 7/06/18 in Socal
« on: July 12, 2018, 01:29:15 AM »



Well looking at the lemon zest, it did take more damage to the new growth than I thought. But it still seems like it takes the heat much better than my sweet tart, and definitely Coconut Cream. Maybe about the same as Keitt and "manilla" mango. The Coconut Cream may be delicious but it isn't particularly tough. Doesn't seem to deal with the cold or extreme heat well.



I agree. My lemon zest flushed through the heat with no negative effects. You can see the flush with no spray on it. Thee are even new flushes today. Still going.




Something is having a negative effect on that LZ as it looks sickly...


Itís been in a pot for over a year and came through 1-2 minor frosts this year and is on turpentine rootstock. The fact that itís got some new growth is encouraging to me now that itís been in the ground for almost 2 months. No flowers in it though. Fruit punch has some fruit on it not affected by heat wave. Ambrosia growing well and has several flowers some have set fruit. I have a 20222 that has several mangoes but minimal vegetative growth or leaves after a large branch died off 3 months ago. Iím not sure if itís worth keeping that tree around or replacing it. Mallika lost some frutlets but is flowering again. Kesar holding onto small fruit but has very few leaves on it. Itís not a vigorous grower for me over here 2 seasons in a row now.

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Mine was also chlorotic and new growth is greening up with nitrogen and micros. No flowers yet.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brutal heatwave 7/06/18 in Socal
« on: July 10, 2018, 02:56:49 AM »
The white stuff is surround wp. Itís a sun protectant l. Has worked well for me in past and safe to spray on leaves. I wanted some latex for the bark but timing didnít work out for me.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brutal heatwave 7/06/18 in Socal
« on: July 09, 2018, 01:40:05 AM »



Well looking at the lemon zest, it did take more damage to the new growth than I thought. But it still seems like it takes the heat much better than my sweet tart, and definitely Coconut Cream. Maybe about the same as Keitt and "manilla" mango. The Coconut Cream may be delicious but it isn't particularly tough. Doesn't seem to deal with the cold or extreme heat well.



I agree. My lemon zest flushed through the heat with no negative effects. You can see the flush with no spray on it. Thee are even new flushes today. Still going.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brutal heatwave 7/06/18 in Socal
« on: July 07, 2018, 05:48:54 PM »
Yesterday reached 119 here as well by 4pm

I sprayed a couple of days before and watered early morning and during the day.  Most new growth shriveled. Most trees did ok. Iím surprised that the trees hat I forgot to spray did just fine and showed minimal sunburn. I found some trees with significant trunk damage today though.













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