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Welcome!

There are many different varieties of orange so itis entirely possible that you tasted one variety many years ago from one grower or region but are now ordering a different type of orange from Florida.

I will also say that the flavor of citrus (same tree, same type) will change depending on growing conditions. When I was in the tropics they had green oranges from Brazil that were sweet but without the acid bite that I like to balance the flavors. One reason for this difference may be that Brazil doesnít get cold enough to stimulate enough acid production in the fruit.

Floridamay be similar. I have bought oranges from Florida that taste differently from the same cultivar grown locally here in California. Very different taste profile. I encourage you to seek out California citrus if you are not satisfied with the options you currently have and give it a try. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2-3 mango trees in one hole
« on: November 23, 2018, 12:43:11 AM »
Pc really is a slow grower. I had a multigraft with honey kiss and pineapple pleasure and hineykiss. Hk suffered random dieback of entire graft before putting out any new growth in early spring. Pc didnít grow AT ALL and pp nearly took over the whole tree. I grafted ndm and mc Tobit. Pc graft stayed green from last season but no growth until last month when it put out 2 new shoots. It skipped the entire growing season and decided to show some life just as itís dipping into the 40s at night.

Btw Iím in Detroit for the weekend. Itís 30 degrees here right now and I swear my yard feels like this at night during some winter nights. May explain why I get flowers in my 800 chill hour stone fruit trees that arenít supposed to flower in my area. May also explain why I lost so many mangoes last year 🤦🏽‍♂️



Will OS and  piŮa colada be good candidates for the one whole method ?
Running out of space .

Thanks Ed

I don't think so OS is more on the vigorous side.
Pina is not vigorous at all

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: feijoa pineapple guava
« on: November 21, 2018, 03:00:06 AM »
I bought a small tree a few months ago that is now defoliated due to the recent winds. Iím not sure if Iíll keep it or not. I tried fruit from a friends tree and wasnít impressed at all. There was an odd bitter aftertaste. I donít mind giving it some time but it wasnít love at first sight

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anonas
« on: November 21, 2018, 02:57:13 AM »
Are you guys hand pollinating to get those yields or letting entropy do its thing?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Inga Vulpina Impostor
« on: November 21, 2018, 02:54:30 AM »
When is Inga grafting season in socal? I tried in July and wasnít successful but we did have high heat then.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Sapodilla fruit
« on: November 16, 2018, 12:36:24 AM »
I bought some from jf a couple of months ago. Excellent!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: November 02, 2018, 02:25:59 AM »



My Sharwil is in the beginning stages of flowering
Do they typically start flowering at this time? Iíve got to check on mine but they are both recovering from the ides of july🤯

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: GEM avocado in Los Angeles area?
« on: October 20, 2018, 07:12:19 PM »
Yes, totally agree with brad. Get a smaller tree. It will outstrip the larger tree within a season or 2.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Sugar cane starters
« on: October 17, 2018, 02:11:14 AM »
Iím so used to seeing no shipping to CA that itís kind of refreshing to see some other place be on the list. Why India though?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: GEM avocado in Los Angeles area?
« on: October 17, 2018, 02:05:14 AM »
Bonita creek nursery. Thatís where I got mine. In inland San Diego though. You might try laguna hills nursery in oc- they donít have it now but are ordering some avos from brokaw next year and brokaw propagates gem

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Papaya questions
« on: October 17, 2018, 02:02:22 AM »
Iíve attached photos of my dwarf Brazilian papaya. Grew bonkers with fertigation and 30-10-10 fertilizer.

The picture of fruit shows main fruit and cat face fruit which donít rate as good. The cat face fruit are slightly deformed - round with puckered tip. I was told to relive those. Also remove any side branches.

My tree did get beat up in the wind. Several leaves snapped and it no longer looks bushy. I guess it looks like a real papaya tree and less of a papaya Bush now.









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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting mangos of 2018
« on: October 05, 2018, 10:32:49 AM »
The third  mango in the first picture has sweet turd  written on it.

As in
Rumani
Coc
Sweet turd

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting mangos of 2018
« on: October 04, 2018, 09:52:51 PM »
As mango season approaches and end in SoCal I edit my top ten list once again






I told you that "SeŮorita" was the best out of the hundred or so we tried last year.



1. SeŮorita
2.ST
3.Zinc
4.E4
5.OS
6.Creme brŻlťe
7.LZ
8.Parson
9.M4
10.HK



is sweet turd a seedling of a known variety? And was it in your top 10? 😆

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jim Bacon Avocado
« on: October 04, 2018, 02:47:01 AM »
If youíve tasted bacon then youíre good to pass on jim bacon. Seedling if bacon, very vigorous, very precocious, and great as a pollinator but otherwise nothing to write home about flavor wise in my opinion but then again I donít like bacon avos so much. My in laws liked it though.

The tree ended up dying in a pot but the rootstock that shot up has grown well

I laughed when I read below that quality of jim bacon was questionable with poor taste. Just how I remember it. But it does make a pretty dark green fruit. And it holds fruit very well. First year 5 gallon had some 30 fruit on it which in the long term stunted its growth but was still amazing to behold.

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Look on figbid.com. For the most part itís run by ourfigs.com members. Cutting season is coming up and you should be able to find some cuttings.

You can also post on the buy sell trade section of ourfigs.com - thatís how I started with my collection.

Good luck.

My first LSU purple will be ripe any day now. Looking forward to it

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fungal infect on mango, or something else?
« on: September 23, 2018, 11:50:41 AM »
i would check daily and stick your finger in the soil. If it feels damp then youíre still good. If it looks damp but you can slide your finger into the soil without encountering much moisture then I would water. You can always water from the bottom up in pots (self irrigation).

If you have several seedlings you can experiment with different watering schedules to see what works best for you. Maybe consider starting weekly... but just remember there are other factors such as amount of foliage (increases plant water loss) and heater being on (will also increase water loss)

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Keeping Kumquats?
« on: September 22, 2018, 07:45:58 PM »
Meiwa are more sweet (or more accurately speaking they are less bitter) than the other kumquats , in my humble yet highly accurate opinion 😀

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fungal infect on mango, or something else?
« on: September 22, 2018, 05:47:43 PM »
If youíre  growing indoors, I wonder if itís drying out (indoors at my house has very low humidity) or itís getting overwatered and itís dying from the distal ends where the roots can no longer support the growth. Fungal infection could be a possibility but at thleast end of the day I wonder if itís root related.

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I had my 4 year old with me so we were sitting in the back. I was trying to make sure the volume was low on her cartoons so that people werenít disturbed by the sound.


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Thanks for a great presentation today Warren. I never knew there were so many people interested in growing mangos in OC, and you did a marvelous job presenting the topic and teaching the ins and outs of mango growing.


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I went to a mango talk in the summer that described mango flavors and the combinations of flavors experiencesd. I was surprised to see that connoisseurs has gauged 50-60 different flavor profiles to score mangos. Since then Iíve been able to pick out some of the different flavors highlighted from that talk.

But thatís more nuance. If youíre talking flavor bomb, try a pina colada mango. Out of all the mangos I tried this past year that cultivar tastes the least generic and most unique. It even had darker wedges of flesh inside like a mango (no Iím not making this up,  and no I donít think it was rotting or bad or a coincidence because I noticed the same pattern on the 4 that I had)

From there, you can experience more rose like or floral tastes, more concentrated sweet tastes, more citrus tones, more creamy tones (thatís how My brain interpreted the coconut cream and e4).

Even the seeds look different in those mangoes - like someone gave them a crew cut with like 2mm of fiber all the way around and thatís it!

Many of the mangoes will have combinations of flavors, just like I heard about in the lecture, and the flavors will hit at different times throughout the bite. Interestingly, flavor of mango will also change according to when it is picked and stage of ripeness. I had a fantastic fruit cocktail mango in Florida. 5 days later I had another one that  must have passed its prime flavor because it tasted like curdled cheese with no hint of mango at all.

My trees are fairly young but I managed to ripen a fruit punch mango. I still picked it a tad early and it took longer than I expected to soften but my wife and children asked for more of that one and were more enthusiastic for that mango than for standard store bought ones.

Hope that helps. In short, yes there is a wide variety of mango flavors out there. If you donít think you could tell the difference, try something that will really stand out like pina colada and see if you can appreciate the difference.

Khaled

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sienta Lone Mango
« on: September 18, 2018, 11:02:23 AM »
Iíll take a picture later today. Bought a plant from Lynn this past summer. 3 gallon though but I can get photos of leaves.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nishikawa Avocado - Aloha & Mahalo
« on: September 16, 2018, 09:15:01 PM »
I have 1 graft in the ground on one of the rootstock I got from you. I grafted on a lower branch which luckily provided it some shade during the heat wave. Itís now reaching out beyond the shade. I also have kahaluu (large and inground) , Yamagata (small but in ground) and murashige graft that just started pushing.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jumbo Sweet Tart
« on: September 16, 2018, 11:01:12 AM »
I meant to graft onto :-)

Not sure if I should keep pruning the rootstock suckers or let them grow with an eye for the future.

Good stuff

You should probably cut all the rootstock suckers.  The bud sport(s) that they are referring to do not emanate directly from the rootstock.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« on: September 12, 2018, 04:09:36 AM »
Looking good Behl.

Mine is growing well but no more fruit from it this year.

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