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Most literature claim the Inchangensis is hardy to 0-F (-18C)

After a person has grown container plants for a while they can easily tell how much water remains in the medium by simply lifting the container.

Recently I've been reading advice that when a container tree has a couple inches of the root ball cut and then the tree being put back into the same container, that trimming back the foliage is not necessary.  Also when I fertilize a tree I dissolve the fertilizer  and pure it over the entire surface of the root ball, so that the entire root ball is evenly whetted..

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Leaving fruit on young lemon tree
« on: May 16, 2018, 04:07:14 PM »
Kaidback, in a hot climate terracotta is a good choice as water passes through the container keeping the medium cool on hot days.  Plus it is a good looking container.

Citrus General Discussion / HLB & Brazil
« on: May 14, 2018, 12:51:10 PM »
Orange production in Brazilís citrus belt is forecast to drop by almost a third during the 2018-19 season, according to an industry association. The decline is attributed to disease, mainly citrus canker and citrus greening (HLB). The number of properties producing oranges over the last few years has shrunk by 20%. Sao Paolo Agriculture Secretary Francisco Jardin said that although the stateís orange industry remains one of the largest in the world, the high number of abandoned groves was a concern.

The tree looks very good, watch for the future of the tree.  From what I understand heat does not completely cure the HLB but does set the disease back.

Non Poncirus cultivars have straighter thorn, flying dragon cultivars have strongly curved thorns.  Further the trunk and branches of FD will have a pronounced zig-zagged growth.

JJROSS54 no.  The real FD cultivar is the only truly dwarfing citrus variety.  Many of the poncirus varieties produce semi dwarf trees.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Growing lemons from seed?
« on: May 13, 2018, 04:10:22 PM »
Over the years I have started numerous trees from seed.  Out of all of these seed grown trees, only one tree, a Saint Dominic Sour orange tree ever grew for a long enough time, and grow high enough to fruit. It is planted in a bottomless Root Maker expandable container. The roots have grown into the ground.  This tree now produces a good amount of fruit.

Z-willis, i noticed that your medium was a mixture of 5 different ingredients.  Good mediums rarely, if ever, are made up of more than 3 ingredients .

Note that Flying Dragon (FD) seed do not produce the true FD cultivar 100% of the time.  Only about 50 percent +- will be the true cultivar.   

There is also a nursery called Flying Dragon Nursery, that grafts all of their citrus trees on flying dragon rootstock,  The owner of Flying Dragon Nursery talked at the last citrus expo.  I think they are located in Florida.  Citradia could probably give you more details.  You could also probably look them up on the Internet.

Because Forumfool is in California, he can only  purchase from an in state supplier.  No out of state nursery will ship a citrus tree to California.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Successful multigraft
« on: May 09, 2018, 06:21:10 PM »
That is going to be quite some tree

Citrus General Discussion / Marsh Grapefruit- Taste - Time
« on: May 07, 2018, 09:02:35 PM »
I have an in ground seedless Marsh grapefruit tree.  I picked a few fruit in late February, the taste was OK (my wife said it was too sour).  I picked some fruit about March 20.  The taste was better.  I personally liked the taste, my wife said it was too sour.  I picked the last fruit April 15.  On April 15, I noticed the fruit had begun to become soft, the taste was excellent.  My wife said that the fruit was much better,  NOTE: she is a sweeter red grapefruit fan, and I am a white grapefruit fan.  Were still very good friends.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Gold Nugget Mandarin Problems
« on: May 07, 2018, 12:37:13 PM »
Mandarins do not hang well if let on he tree for a longer period.  They do get puffy.

I have many times set my Root Maker and other containers in a larger bucket over night. to soak, with or without fertilizer..

There was a study of surfactants done several years back. The aim of the study was to determine the best, and as important, the safest surfactant for citrus applications.  The surfactant turned out to be TW-20 (also known as Tween-20 and Polysorbate-20).  You can find this study in the text 'Advances In Citrus Nutrition'.Another good aspect of TW-20 is that the surfactant is food grade.

Citrus General Discussion / You Might Consider Also Eating The Peel
« on: May 05, 2018, 09:30:00 PM »
 Generally insoluble dietary fibers are acquired by utilizing citrus peel owing to the occurrence of bioactive components, and other different nutrients. It has abundant nutritional benefits as well as functional properties. They are also known to have significant health advantages for instance fat metabolism, improved digestion, and prevent breast and gastric cancers. Citrus fibers have a range of advantages and they act as a prospective anti-allergen; therefore, the market is gaining demand and popularity globally. The rising demand for natural dietary fibers for avoiding different diseases is the major aspect fueling the demand and popularity of citrus fiber market. With the growing population, the demand for dietary fiber and improving the standard of living is anticipated to aid the market growth within the forecast period

 Citrange wrote: "The UK is introducing a sugar tax on sweetened drinks".  Sure sounds like a decision a government would think of. The only thing that accomplishes is to remove even more money from the public and give it to government

z-willis you should not have washed off the white residue, doing so took away urea's advantage..   The white residue was urea.  A plant's leaf can only absorb nutrients applied as a foliar spray as long as the spray remains wet on the leaf. Urea has a big advantage over other nitrogen sources in that urea is VERY hydrophobic.  When the humidity rises the dried urea foliar solution will re-hydrate and the tree once again absorbs more nutrition. No other nitrogen fertilizer has that ability.

I fully agree with Citrange on grapefruit.  I like white grapefruit much more than the reds that are commonly sold today.  It is hard to find white grapefruit anymore. However, years ago I planted a white Marsh seedless grapefruit, that produces wonderful fruit, fruit that taste like a grapefruit should taste.

Vlad, sorry to hear that.  What % biuret did your urea contain?   What time of day did you spray? Over all my sprayings, and I have sprayed all varieties of citrus with low biuret urea, with the addition of a tsp of TW-20 surfactant per gallon I have never seen any leaf damage at all - none, but have seen wonderful nutritional results.

Willpolinate, citrus use fertilizer in the ratio of 5-1-3 (5 parts N, to 1 part P, and 3 parts K).  Your fertilizer ratio of 8-7-6 supplies way too much P, especially for a tree being grown in a container.  Fertilizing your trees only once in  4 years is why your trees are so small.  A 4 year old container citrus tree should be 3 to 4+ feet high.  A citrus leaf has a life span of approximately 18 months then is discarded.  The bottom yellow leaf is just an old leaf that has lived out its life, and is going to be dropped by the tree. The leaf is yellowing because the tree is first reabsorpingg (saving) any nutrients before discarding it.  A symptom of supplying too much nitrogen is NOT yellow leaves

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