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Sorry to thread-jack, but I've started a bunch of seedlings in smaller tree-pot trays (6-8" deep), and it seems like they aren't really building dense root structures. There will be a tap root but if I try to pull the plant out of the root pot the soil will all crumble away and I'll be left with a bare root. Do I need to fertilize differently, or water from the bottom in a tray, or water more frequently from above with less water? I had considered that the soil mixture may be too dense, so I made sure to prehydrate the peat moss etc before preparing trays.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Toona Sinensis question
« on: January 23, 2020, 03:43:03 PM »
This looks like cedar seedlings growing as weeds in my yard.

Judging by the following photo, it isn't the right species:

I ordered 2 from Wanderlust Nursery, and inquired about gender, and the owner Matt replied that in his experience he had not encountered gendered plants and that all of his plants were producing.

I built one but haven't used it yet because the fogger was providing insufficient moisture, and I need a humidity dome.

Check this chart out, and give some in the cuttings column a try. I've started updating a copy of this chart with posts from the forum with contrary claims, like grumichama rooting from leaves.

The entire point is that hopefully this works faster and more successfully than traditional cutting propagation, but there are a few potential problems:
  • Length of rooting - Some cuttings take 3-6 months to successfully root, and you'd be running lights and a pump all that time
  • Water Management - You'll need to prevent algae/bacterial growth, chemical buildup, maintain water temps, etc.

I guess the seller has a point if seeds contain no alkaloids, so legal to have seeds but not to grow them?

Appears illegal (in contrast to opium poppies) and also extremely difficult to actually grow except Hawaii and PR.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: Szechuan pepper
« on: October 24, 2019, 10:26:10 AM »
My Sansho croaked while I was away for a week, and One Green World is out of stock, so I ordered a replacement from:

Now to pray it is a female...

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: Szechuan pepper
« on: October 15, 2019, 09:01:06 PM »
I got a pair from OneGreenWorld in Oregon, they have beautiful plants and do a great job shipping them.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia intermedia ID question
« on: September 23, 2019, 03:41:41 PM »
#1 Looks like my achacha
#2 Looks like my Luc's Garcinia

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sudden lychee death
« on: September 11, 2019, 09:18:36 AM »
I believe there is some disease going around South Florida, may try searching for that.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Achacha or achachairu ?
« on: July 09, 2019, 05:03:10 PM »
I've got some seedlings in Jax. They seem hearty into the 30s but grow slow. My biggest at 8 months is about 6" tall.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Forcefully Breaking Dormancy?
« on: May 29, 2019, 10:24:56 AM »
I have two trees I'd like to force out of dormancy if possible.

One is a new Spicezee nectaplum I got bare root from Ison's Nursery in GA nearly 2 months ago and the other is a small Shenandoah PawPaw which has been dormant (besides 1 small leaf bud in April that barely turned green and died back) since October/November. Both still have green cambium, and the other Spicezee I ordered is covered in leaves/my 3 other pawpaws are covered in leaves. Are there any hormones/chemicals or techniques for forcing these plants out of dormancy?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rooting Jujube
« on: April 24, 2019, 08:37:30 AM »
I think it *might* be able to be re-grafted, but there is tree debris from a 100' Chinaberry still on top of it. I kind of dug around it and found the scion snapped off so I pulled it out and put the entire thing in water. It looks like they may have accidentally driven over it with a bucket truck first, and then it was snapped when they were moving debris :-\

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Rooting Jujube
« on: April 22, 2019, 04:38:13 PM »
Tree service dropped a chinaberry tree on my baby jujube and snapped it to the graft. Can cuttings be rooted in a fog/mist cloner?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: interesting mango grafting method
« on: March 07, 2019, 01:31:07 PM »
So mutli-rootstock grafting + sorta airlayer? I wonder what the purpose of this is?

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: "Southern" Pawpaw Source?
« on: March 05, 2019, 03:50:54 PM »
Thanks for the reply Triloba. Just Fruits and Exotics had a selection of "low chill" pawpaws, some supposedly bred by a guy in Gainesville, FL (but I can't find any other source regarding him on google), which is why I asked. I only get 200-500 chill hours where I'm at, so wanted to ensure I got something that'd actually fruit.

The trees from Logees were shipped in very deep pots, grew a bit after repotted them into 1G's, and defoliated late in the fall (Shenandoah before Mango). They appear to have swelling leaf buds right now. I was afraid when my Shenandoah defoliated that it had died, so I scratched a branch after a few months and it was still green.

I figured if I couldn't find something explicitly "southern", I'd buy some cheap seeds (mango?) or seedlings (Willis Orchard in GA ~$7?) and roll the dice.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / "Southern" Pawpaw Source?
« on: March 01, 2019, 05:22:04 PM »
It seems as though Just Fruits and Exotics is all out of pawpaws, are there any other good sources for Florida/Gainesville/"Southern" varieties? I've got a small Mango and Shenandoah from Logees, but would like to acquire a few others.

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Did you have any issue keeping the growth going upward? I have 2 (suebell and ?redlands?) that refuse to grow up and constantly grow outward horizontally. Any advice for pruning/training?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat grafting, when?
« on: January 29, 2019, 10:18:49 AM »
Not to thread-jack, but I have a very mature loquat in my yard, likely from seed, with very inferior fruit. Is it possible to essentially cut it down and graft into the center of the trunk/stump, or do I need to do some kind of side graft then cut it down?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is a 500W Halogen light too much?
« on: January 16, 2019, 01:29:17 AM »
Google a calculator for heating/HVAC for a 384.85 sq ft room with no insulation, or find a greenhouse heating calculator.

Also, you'll probably want plastic on top to keep it air tight, rather than a blanket.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Water before a Freeze?
« on: November 27, 2018, 02:58:30 PM »
I've heard conflicting advice about watering before a freeze:

-Don't water, as cells are more likely to rupture if fully hydrated
-Do water, as it increases mass/retains heat and makes cold damage less likely
-Fertilize with micronutrients before winter to prevent freezing (anti-freeze theory)

Should plants be watered or not before a light freeze? We're expected to get 32 for 1 hour in Jacksonville.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Walmart mango sighting
« on: November 26, 2018, 11:27:48 PM »
My local Walmart has had a few decent late season Kietts and Kent's, but last month+  it's all garbage Tommy 😭

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: feijoa pineapple guava
« on: November 19, 2018, 12:45:48 AM »
Are there any sources for superior varieties in the US?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nursery Pot Sources
« on: November 03, 2018, 10:42:58 AM »
I ended up going with Greenhouse Megastore. I mostly needed larger pots like the 7g, and they seemed to be the cheapest.

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