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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Poll: Meliponiculture
« on: July 04, 2019, 06:45:23 AM »
Interesting older thread. Sorry canít answer your question professor but that is a similar yield to what I get here (though I donít usually take honey as it slows hive propagation). I keep Tetragonula hockingsi and T. carbonaria.

Here they swarm in the spring but we donít have a real wet season (though do get most of our rain in summer) and have a definite winter.

I donít know that it always does but that was something I struggled with until I planted straight in the ground. It took off over summer here but didnít stand a chance that second winter.

I kept one through a mild winter here which would be similar to there I imagine. Second winter was harsh and killed it. It grew well over summer.

Mine looked different to nullzeroís. It had duller leaves than jackfruit and was Ďhairyí.

I had tried earlier with bought potted plants and they always died soon after planting. The answer was planting seeds in place.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Raw Honey Mango
« on: June 23, 2019, 11:12:42 PM »
So now are there 3 mango varieties with Honey in the name???

3-18 -Honey, ShweHinta -Raw Honey, & HoneyKiss??

And "Honey Gold" - a popular Australian cultivar.

I have found Mexican Garcinia to be more cold hardy than G. brasiliensis, and at least in the bay area they grew at about the same rate.  (Achachairu seemed to grow faster than either of them, but it was not as cold hardy.)

I have recently found out about its cold hardiness too. Veeery early freeze (28f) out of season a few weeks ago. Leaf damage on most things and the small Luc's was untouched. We seem to get one or two of these nights a year but never that early so I hadn't even protected it.

Most of the common (here) fruits are popular for a reason. There are some tropical fruit that I prefer like atemoya, jacks, lychee and mango while others like banana I think of as an everyday common fruit. In saying that there are a lot that struggle to compete with a good peach or apple for me.

I grow a lot of tropicals for interest, variety and the challenge but if I was growing for calories/output I would be have a lot more of the staples. If i couldn't head down the local shop and buy apples, mandarins peaches etc whenever I wanted my orchard would look very different.

Looking forward to watching it :)

As above they fatten up with age.

Although, I recently had some get very skinny in the pot after already being fat. Ended up finding grubs had eaten the roots (cicada or beetle larvae, very common here). Changed the soil and they grew back fine.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Which Atemoya?
« on: May 14, 2019, 09:18:33 PM »
African Pride,
Pink's Mammoth

I have only tried half of them but of those I would definitely choose Pink's Mammoth. I haven't heard of the other three, any good?

Our coldest morning last winter was -5 Celsius. Killed 9 out of 10 of my Jakfruit back to ground level,  but didnít set my Frankieís Red back except for a bit of damage to new growth tips. I pulled my yellow out because it would die back to ground level every winter.

Good info!

21st of August? Didnít get that cold here but was the coldest in many years and sure did some damage. Where abouts are you?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red Ball Lychee
« on: May 05, 2019, 05:06:00 PM »
I spoke to Bill at Fitzroy and he told me a little but couldnít answer the questions in my op. He said his brother (who was away at the time) was the one to talk to and I planned to call back but never did. I ended up with some different cultivars so didnít chase it up.

Also thought jaboticaba before reading the entire post.

Regular sabara hasnít been that slow here. Mine took 3 years to get to a full 6ft tree with some pruning (I think I started with a 5 gallon, if not smaller).

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Protecting a tree from my dog
« on: April 25, 2019, 06:32:59 AM »
Mine are a bit better now, but they were monsters for destroying anything newly planted.

I used a hot/electric wire to stop them. Little solar powered energizer on a star picket. It was fairly expensive at the time but I have used it so much since, very flexible.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Does Star Apple Taste Any Good?
« on: April 10, 2019, 04:50:08 AM »
I have a little Ďjuicy pearlí in the ground from Steve. Anyone know what species they are?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to get Monstrea to fruit?
« on: March 23, 2019, 07:37:07 PM »
My folks have a huge one that grows along the ground . It fruits in both full shade and full sun sections of the plant. Under their conditions it isnít particularly high yielding for its size, but it grows under other trees so does that matter? The fruits are nice.

Second sapodilla

My favourite looking fruit tree.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Choice for White Sapote Cultivar
« on: March 06, 2019, 04:50:52 AM »
I have a Dade planted. From over there, can anyone tell me anything about it? All I know is that its vigorous haha.

Considering adding a Kampong which is available here.

A sterile Mexican sunflower would be great. They are a weed here and Iíve been scared to use them because of it.

Gracilis bamboo. A small clumper that would work well for that purpose but unfortunately not edible. Still useful for stakes etc around the garden. There are edible clumpers but donít know much about them, think most are larger.

I have seen good jaboticaba hedges and would suit the discreet requirement but a lot slower obviously.

Mine do well with thin topsoil and a clay band under that. Could always plant on mounds too.

Saw the vid thismorning. Pretty packed but surprisingly neat! I am curious to see how it goes in the next few years, you obviously put a lot of time into it all :)

Doesnít look like vetiver (plus the vetiver normally used is sterile). Vetiver is used all over for exactly this purpose. If it grows in your location it would be hard to go past. Very strong, deep roots and thick enough above ground to hold back sediment. It will actually build a self levelling terrace/berm up behind the hedge if there is erosion uphill (mine has).

There are a bunch of instillation guides/manuals around. Here are three from a quick google search:

Vetiver for the win!

It is really, really good. I initially planted my hedge on contour with slips at 10cm centers (i grew a few clumps to get the slips originally). Now days it is a thick, strong hedge and the only gaps in the entire 70m or so are the two paths my big boof head dogs persist on keeping open.

It looks a bit ragged in the middle of winter or when super dry, but continues to function and freshens up in the spring.

Would vetiver grow there? I guess same problem as lemongrass but it survives frosts fine here. Have had really good results, though not seeded as specified.

If itís about collecting cultivars I would consider multigrafting.

My house block is just over half an acre and I have plans for about 50 trees at 15x17ft spacing though some of those are planted tighter (citrus, atemoya etc). There is actually a lot of unused space but I also do veggies, nursery, workshop, chickens etc.

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