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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Video of someone stealing my mangoes
« on: July 19, 2019, 03:11:14 PM »
IT'S A HOMOSAPIEN HARVESTOR! He picked and put in a white plastic bag about 3 or 4 mangoes and walked towards the gravel road and turned right and walked away. This male is wearing khaki shorts and short sleeve shirt , brown shoes, of medium build, about 5'10" and grey hair. Age guess between 40 and 50.
I reviewed your video zoomed and in slow motion! Too bad you didn't click before he appeared behind the tree. If you measure the distance from ground to the right branch (from your house to tree direction) you can guess exactly how tall he is with his shoes on.
If you put a sign ' mango thief caught on camera' at your mail box on your drive way you may be lucky with your 2020 yield. Triphal

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: FRUIT ID ?
« on: July 11, 2019, 10:36:04 AM »
Appears like a Syzygium variety. Like ?Rose apple variety. Triphal

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: California cashews?
« on: July 08, 2019, 09:40:41 PM »
You could ask your neighbor, California Rare Fruit Growers Inc. (CRFG) member in Santa Barbara. They are in better position to answer this. As far as I know they were experimenting in California on Cashew cultivation. Cashew trees do not like cool weather even in tropics. Triphal

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Sorry it's not a tropical tree. Triphal

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Remove from this section. Move it to the business/sales section of the TFF.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Funny post grafting video-buddytape
« on: June 22, 2019, 11:42:10 AM »
 TFF should have taken this idiotic nonsense off this forum.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: watch this video! gac fruit
« on: June 11, 2019, 10:10:58 AM »
It is green when unripe and is used as a vegetable. After washing and drying cut longitudinally about 1/2 cm slices sprinkle some salt as needed and keep aside. Drain the liquid. Deep fry in high heat vegetable oil and bring it down to medium heat till cooked. When done put it on paper towel for access oil to be absorbed. Or without putting salt you can fry them and later sprinkle salt and pepper as needed.

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Very interesting. Ask the person who sold you seeds or seedlings how the fruit tastes.
Of course it is natural that the sellers usually 'hype' the quality, taste, fast growth, early fruiting and so on. Good luck. Triphal

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Pennsylvania is not a tropical or subtropical area and it will be odd for their nurseries to sell tropical fruit plants.
Have you explored those famous tropical fruit farms in Porto Rico? Good luck. Triphal.

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Thai eggplant id
« on: May 08, 2019, 05:52:54 PM »
This needs to be discussed in the annual vegetable section. Thank you.

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Indian jujube (Ziziphus mauritiana) usually doesn't tolerate below 45 degrees F and in zone 9b you have to take it indoor during winter.
Usually wait for fertilizing till the root strengthens in couple years. All varieties of jujubes mostly flower by the 2nd year and some  in the first year. Indian jujube is an evergreen in the tropical climate whereas the Chinese ones are deciduous.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical Fruit Tress in San Jose
« on: April 19, 2019, 09:11:54 AM »
Recommend you to join the California Rare Fruit Growers, Inc. They have chapters near you: San Jose (Santa Clara Valley) and in Sata Cruz (Monterey Bay). They have a bimonthly magazine, monthly meetings, seeds, fruit trees and scion exchange or sales and most important of all is you can discuss with the members and could see those trees grown in their backyard. They have FIRST HAND expertise on about 50 tropical and borderline subtropical fruits. Please note that I am not a member of that society but know some members of those societies. Good luck. Triphal
 

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With due regards Mr Newbee Explorer, it appears that you are in the WRONG section of the TFF. You should try to put this advertisement / commercial in the sell, buy and trade section of the TFF. Hope the moderator will remove from this section.
Thanks.

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In your zone Indian jujube won't flower nor fruit. At the most it may form a stunted bush loaded with sharp curved spines! But your Sherwood jujube ( Ziziphus jujuba chinensis ) will flower and fruit this year. Thin 75% of the young fruits the first year to have strong roots. Watch for sucker plants coming from the roots around 8' radius from the trunk and go on trimming them as soon as they show up.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Unknown fruit? in Mexico
« on: December 04, 2018, 09:12:40 AM »
Oscar only 1 1/2 decades short ! Lucky to be born in a family where the members were exposed to the Flora and Fauna from childhood. Were taught to call the trees, birds and animals by their species and names. Also lucky to grow up and mingle with and explore the Flora, Fauna and Geology from the ocean to about 100 miles interior. Thankfully those days these subjects were non commercial. I am one among the hundreds of that kind in the TFF!
 Do you have anything new on Terminalia catappa for the TFF?  Season's Greetings.  Triphal.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Unknown fruit? in Mexico
« on: December 03, 2018, 02:00:29 PM »
Thanks. Human dispersal through ebay, seed sellers by mail, nurseries, few forums like TFF ! I have mentioned this in my first comment on this subject. But this spread is far away in the jungles and devoid of human habitat. And no one will plant it in the thickets of jungles far above the sea level and far interior from the shore in Government lands with no rivers!
Yes. The birds can carry them but most of the birds have a very small range (area) of territory and too small to carry them far away. Being a keen bird watcher I haven't seen them consuming those fruits either. But have seen them feeding on the insects around fruits.
In another column on TFF about a month back I commented on seeing Terminalia catappa wide spread in the jungles of Mexico from Cancun to Tulum with no rivers nearby high up in the interior far away from the ocean.
These are all my personal observations of nearly 8 decades and have nothing more to add on this subject. Good that I will be spending next four months in the fields of Tropical fruits of Asia. Season's Greetings. Triphal

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Unknown fruit? in Mexico
« on: November 30, 2018, 09:59:55 PM »
Oscar you can't make any one believe that ocean tide climbs over 100 feet above sea level and moves 50 miles interior! I am talking about visiting and seeing myself for the past 50+ years. And to add up to your 'Ocean and river tide' theory those trees are not even ten miles closer to the river. As I mentioned above it is the fruit eating bats that spread it mostly. With thousands of miles of sea shore in Hawaii why Terminalia catappa is not invasive there as per the USDA? I know that such news is bad for the nurseries and seed dealers. Please also note that in spite of the absence of fruit bats USDA calls Jamaican cherry to be invasive in Hawaii.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Unknown fruit? in Mexico
« on: November 29, 2018, 12:48:18 PM »
Hi Oscar. Thank you for your opinion regarding Terminalia catappa.
 From the sea shore which kind of non-human disperse it over 30 miles interior and over hundreds of feet above the sea level? FRUIT bats is the answer. Long time ago while attending a Tropical Naturalist club annual meeting, there was a discussion on this particular subject attended by some Internationally known Doctorates in Science. It is mainly the Fruit Bats that carry the Terminalia catappa fruit far away and after consuming it drops it's hard shelled seed. Whoever thinks otherwise should answer 1.How it is dispersed 30 + miles interior and about 100 feet or so above the sea level from the shore line, and 2. What and who planted or helped germinate these seeds there?
Since 80 plus years I am also familiar with bats carrying and dropping the Kidney shaped Cashew fruits (nut covered by shell) far away places after consuming the pear shaped juicy false fruit. In those days there was no known commercial farming of cashew. Most of the produce of Cashew nuts in India were harvested from the Forest and Wooded areas. Mostly Bats were responsible for India's Cashew crop then. So also in Brazil, Tropical Americas, Tropical Africa and Tropical Asia. We know that the Portuguese introduced this from Brazil through their African Colonies into India.Similarly bats suck the outer juicy part of the Arecanut fruit and drops the hard nut, usually far away from the source.
Regarding the Jamaican cherry as an invasive plant. Nowadays with Internet sales, Nursery trade, Seed trade by mail, Ebay, and of course mainly through the dispersal by bats and birds it will spread faster. High percentage of seeds coming out of the bat's gut germinate and at a faster rate! It was introduced in Hawaii by the then Government in 1922 and you don't have to worry because of the absence of fruit bats in Hawaii!
My views of what I saw and experienced all these years in a small scale in the practical fields of 'Flora and Fauna. Will be away in zones 11 to 13b for the next 4 months. Season's Greetings.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Unknown fruit? in Mexico
« on: November 28, 2018, 11:27:23 AM »
Oscar. Regarding the Jamaican Cherry (Muntingia calabura): It is termed as a HIGH RISK  plant for invasion in the Hawaii according to the PIER report long time ago. This is in the absence of fruit bats but due to bird disbursement, having many seeds in the fruit, through the gut seeds have higher germination potential etc.
Because of the absence of fruit bats in Hawaii, Terminalia catappa is termed rightly as not invasive in spite of the thousands of miles of ocean floor you have there.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Unknown fruit? in Mexico
« on: November 28, 2018, 10:51:45 AM »
Oscar. The bats in Hawaii are insectivorous and they DO NOT EAT FRUITS. So your comment from Hawaii about  'Easily germinated and carried over by bats' doesn't relate to what I commented. Please note these North American West Coast Immigrants, the Hoary bats somehow ended up in Hawaii at 2 different times. The first one 10,000 years ago and the recent one about 1000 years ago. This is the only land mammal indigenous to Hawaii.
Your opinion Terminalia catappa seeds are spread through ocean waters is interesting.
Hoary bat food is mainly wasps, beetles, fruit flies and other insects which is helping the fruit trees in Hawaii getting rid of some of these pests. Over 98% of TFF members and clients unfortunately do not have your advantage of having only one species of bat and the insectivorous one.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Unknown fruit? in Mexico
« on: November 25, 2018, 04:53:48 PM »
Four weeks ago we visited Tulum ruins in Mexico. From the Cancun International Airport all the way to Tulum on road I saw hundreds of trees growing wild in the forests and other dry areas. Some of them are planted even in a nice resort!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Unknown fruit? in Mexico
« on: November 24, 2018, 12:41:59 PM »
Easily germinated and carried over by bats. Fast growing trees and will be a 'pest' in any tropical and subtropical regions.
 About 45+ years ago while visiting a famous Nursery in a Tropical country I commented on this 'Terminalia catappa at that time hardly seen nor heard about in the region that it will spread around easily. And also commented on what they call as 'Singapore cherry' Muntingia calabura ( strawberry tree, Jamaican berry etc.) which was freshly introduced in that area that they will have these trees everywhere in 10 years.
Last year while passing through that area in the tropics i have seen hundreds of those above mentioned trees almost 95% not planted in about 100 miles radius! It is unfortunate to see it in Florida!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is wrong with my naval orange tree?
« on: November 17, 2018, 11:31:27 AM »
Also it should be corrected to 'navel' and not 'naval'.
15 years back while visiting the city of Vishakapattanam, called as Vizag, India's Naval HQs, I was offered to browse a book on Indian trees. I noticed in the section of citrus the variety of Naval oranges!. I mentioned to the friend of the author that it is 'navel' for belly button as one end of the orange has a similarity to it and not 'Naval' like in the Navy!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Lowland tropical avocados
« on: November 11, 2018, 09:43:56 AM »
Looking for seeds of West Indies grown avocados suitable for planting in the Tropical Lowland zone 13b in India. This is for introducing (popularizing) 'AVOCADOS' as a home garden plant along with mango, jack, guava and other trees. I have NO commercial NOR financial interest.
Looking for advice from lowland tropical growers. This excludes the whole US mainland! You could also PM me. Thanks

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Planting trees grown in Gritty Mix
« on: November 08, 2018, 10:34:01 AM »
Thanks. Completely missed your query on 'gritty Mix'!

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