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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Patented Annonas
« on: February 03, 2020, 10:39:50 PM »
I want to understand the ramifications of the Australian’s Plant Breeder Rights on USA laws or international laws.  How does one protect one’s intellectual properties such as Cotton Candy?  How do we know if we are violating the law?

There are no recent patents for cherimoya nor atemoya trees in US.
The Australian have Plant Breeders Rights.
Pink Mammoth and Hillary White would be expired if translate to US Patent 20 years lifetime.

Which varieties you want to sell?

Sending out scions to Florida.  Please let me know if anyone in Florida needs them this month?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Patented Annonas
« on: February 03, 2020, 03:59:14 AM »
How do we know which atemoya is patented and which patent is expire?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New cherimoya
« on: January 12, 2020, 11:09:28 PM »
He did not tell me.  Steve did keep a couple of trees for himself and his trees also produce the same quality of fruit. You can find it on his Instagram.

not grafted just a seedling??? did he tell you what the seedling was from??

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New cherimoya
« on: January 11, 2020, 06:55:45 PM »
It is cherimoya leaves

Thanks for sharing! What is the leaf shape? To my palate, Atemoyas and Cherimoya/Atemoya Hybrids have some sugar apple flavor and aroma. Leo’s Hybrids 1 and 3 have some sugar apple flavor.


I am open, please let me know what you want.  Thank you. 

Pm sent

Tropical Fruit Discussion / New cherimoya
« on: January 10, 2020, 11:55:30 PM »
Two years ago, i asked Steve at Exotica Nursery in Vista California for a cherimoya that taste like a sugar apple.  He presented to me a seedlings that is not even a foot tall. After 2 years of growth with lots of TLC, the tree self pollinate and produce a good amount of cherimoya.  The cherimoya are about the size of a small orange and have a thick skin.  The tree is cold tolerant.  I had to pick the fruit early because i had a lot of rats eating my cherimoya.  I let the cherimoya soft on the kitchen cabinet and when it was time to taste the fruit, i was expecting a cherimoya flavor—pineapple/banana/tart.  But it tasted like a chewy sugar apple.  It is a great find and a wonderful tree.  I hope the fruit will get bigger with time.  Below are the pictures of the fruit and the inside.  I have scions if you guys want them.

Hi All,

5 dollars per scions and 2 scions per cultivars. Plus 10 dollars shipping with tracking number and all scions are wrapped in buddy tape

African Pride 2
PPC—Phet Pak Chong atemoya
Lisa Atemoya
Dream annona

Sugar Apple Cherimoya(new variety that is cold tolerant cherimoya that taste like sugar apple—Na Dai)
Fortunata cherimoya
El Bumpo Cherimoya
Knight cherimoya

Sugar cherimoya


El Bumpo

Knight cherimoya

Sugar Apple Cherimoya

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID Please: Fruit, Nut, Weed?
« on: January 05, 2020, 12:51:28 PM »
I have tasted this plum before and it is edible and forgot the name of the plum.  It grows like weed in San Diego.

I have B10 at home.  It is sweet and firm at all stage of the fruit from green to orange.  My wife likes the sour one better because it have more flavors and goes greet in salads and spring rolls.  I live in San Diego and it grows fine.

March is when we graft cherimoya.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya Season 2019 (So Cal)
« on: December 04, 2019, 02:40:52 AM »
My El Bumpo.  I got my at Walter Anderson that was not from LAvern.  I try to avoid Lavern and try to support the local nursery.  Plus the local nursery have better cultivars and they don’t mass produce.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Exotica Lottery
« on: December 03, 2019, 03:55:08 AM »
I originally ask for a cherimoya that taste like a chewy sugar apple.  Steve produce a 20 dollar seedlings and it fruited this year.  And guess what?  It tasted like a chewy sugar apple (Dai Na)

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Ilama
« on: November 25, 2019, 04:07:49 AM »
I have ilama seedlings if u want.  I am in San Diego

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya Season 2019 (So Cal)
« on: November 25, 2019, 03:37:43 AM »
Hey Mikey and others I was going to have a few friends over to try some cherimoyas this coming friday or saturday.  If anyone wants to come and has some annonas to contribute send me a message.  Im about to go pick a bunch of fruit this morning. 

The rats got all of my cherimoya.  I have work all day Friday and Saturday.  U guys go and enjoy the fruits of your labor.  I will contribute next year as soon as i find a way to kill these rats without getting a cat.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya Season 2019 (So Cal)
« on: November 24, 2019, 01:32:32 AM »
About 2 years ago, i asked Steve from exotica for a cherimoya that taste like a Vietnamese sugar apple.   He went to his green house and gave me an 8 inches seedlings for $20.   He said I will enjoy it and it tastes great when he ate it before planting the seeds and i won’t regret it.

Now it fruited and i had to pick the fruit early because the rats have been eating my cherimoya.  The fruit are about the size of a lemon or small orange.   It did not get bigger like my atemoya graft on it. 

My first bite, it was like my mouth knew the flavors.  It did not taste like a cherimoya, it lacks the acid and banana/pineapple flavors of a typical cherimoya.  It was chewy like a Dai Na and not too sweet.  It taste like a sugar apple with guava flavors.  There is a resin after taste like the resin of an unripe guava that is pick too early and force to ripe.  The flesh around the seed was more chewy then the firm texture of the fruit.  It was meaty and custard.  It have no overly sweet taste of a cherimoya/sugar apple.  It peels like a sugar apple and have no gritty taste.

Overall, this is a must have and it provide a different flavor profile to my annonas collection.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya Season 2019 (So Cal)
« on: November 23, 2019, 01:51:47 AM »
I am waiting for this Aussie mature.

Here is a picture of a “Lisa Atemoya” that I got from Lynn.  Clearly it is not a Lisa atemoya but more of a giffner.

Birula from frank.

Dream from Sacramento

Randhir from frank.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya Season 2019 (So Cal)
« on: November 23, 2019, 01:42:39 AM »
Here are two Behl and it have a more acidic flavor.  It is very good. 

This knight was beautiful but not ready.  I had to cut down because a rat was eating it.  Flavor is excellent but gad a lot of grit.  I am sure it will taste better if i let it sit longer. 

Deliciosa was a bomb of explosion of flavor and chew.  My wife likes the chewy part.  Rate took a bit out of both fruits and the fruit was tiny. 

I have not try this yet.  It may be Lahabra sun from JF.

Concha lisa was great.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya Season 2019 (So Cal)
« on: November 23, 2019, 01:32:08 AM »
This year, the rats found my cherimoya.  They ate almost all of my fruits and a lot of them are immature.  I manage to kill a couple rats.  I am very disappointed because i was going to send them out to some friends.   >:(   Lucky i picked my big El Bumpo cherimoya before they started eating them.  The strangest part, they have not touch my african pride or others atemoya.  There is also a video of me eating my almost 4 lbs el Bumpo.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ?? mango season ??
« on: November 13, 2019, 11:20:42 AM »
My Keo Savory is having its second bloom.  The last bloom produce fruits the size of a walnut.  My tree is new and this is its first year in my 25 gallons pot and its roots are in the ground.  I may have to dig the pot out and cur the roots  so i may move the pot to a new location. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya varieties
« on: November 13, 2019, 10:39:21 AM »
I believe campa is from spain.  Idk if campa, campas, and campus are the same or if they originate from the same parentage.   Bay taste more like papaya and not as sweet.  I have not try Fino De Jete but I hear good things.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Does anyone have pix of Hilary white?
« on: November 11, 2019, 02:19:50 AM »
Does anyone have picture of La Habra Blanc atemoya when the fruit is immature?

Does this look like it?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / WTB or get sour starfruit
« on: October 24, 2019, 03:19:13 PM »
Hi my wife wants a really sour starfruit tree and i am looking for scions so i May graft onto my tree.  The sour starfruit are more flavorful for our salads and spring rolls. 


Tropical Fruit Discussion / ID weeping annona please
« on: October 21, 2019, 03:17:59 AM »
Sun or no sun, these annona seedlings are from my last fruiting AP, El Bumpo, knight or PPC.  I do not know if the seedlings are a cherimoya or atemoya or others. The leaves are hairy like cherimoya, but elongated and slender.  Please ID if anyone have seen this particular phenotype.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 50,000 Apples Stolen From Indiana Orchard
« on: September 29, 2019, 08:59:56 PM »
How do you get away with 50k of apple?  You would need at least a crew of 30 people and heavy machines to move 50k of apple in 2 days if you are fast.

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