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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Help with my meyer lemon
« on: January 10, 2018, 01:19:19 AM »
Snek, the symptoms you describe here and in the other thread match my experience so far. Only affecting the Meyer lemon (and mine is in the ground on standard rootstock) and not spreading to any adjacent trees.

I did recently find a contact in the CDFA Plant Pathology office that offered to diagnose, so I'll probably send a cutting in soon and perhaps we can all resolve!

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tl;dr: Reported suspected HLB in a stranger's front yard lemon tree in August. CDFA (a state agency) replies ask me (a private citizen) to arrange for samples with the unknown homeowner. How can we slow ACP/HLB if it takes half a year for a CDFA inspection?

Four months ago, I reported a lemon tree in Westchester, CA to the Asian Citrus Psylid / Huanglongbing (Citrus Greening) branch of the California Department of Food and Agriculture. The tree is infested with ACP and showing potential signs of citrus greening, but it's not in my yard -- it's in the non-fenced and non-gated front yard of a stranger's property, and I only see it when I walk our dog down a particular street (not on our usual route).

I recorded the address, and sent a note to the CDFA's Report A Pest email. I indicated the date, the suspected HLB, the address of the property (and that it was in the front yard), and that I did not know the landowner. To their credit, a response: "please send photos." It seemed that despite the report, no action would be taken without imagery. Nonetheless, a few weeks later I was again on that street, took a photo, and sent it in.

The response from CDFA (bolded emphasis is mine):
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Our State Entomologist in Sacramento sent me the following information in response to the picture you submitted:

“It appears that the resident is correct—this does appear to be an infestation of Asian citrus psyllid.  It appears there is some asymmetrical yellow mottling of the leaves.  This is characteristic of what we are asking residents to look for HLB.  I recommend that we have someone collect a sample of symptomatic tissue and psyllids for testing the next time we are working in the area”.

Your information will be provided to the CDFA office that is in charge of your area. Once the office receives your information your call will be handled in the order it was received and an inspector will contact you to make arrangements to pick up samples. Can you please email your name, and contact phone number.

I gave them the benefit of the doubt and sent a response reminding them that the tree wasn't at my house, that I didn't know the homeowner, and that it was accessible in the front yard of the address provided. I asked why I would be responsible to make arrangements for samples as a private citizen, instead of their organization (given that their organization is chartered to handle exactly that kind of thing)?

The response:
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I received your email in regards to the property not being in your home. In order for an inspector to survey the property we would need permission from the homeowner. If it is possible to have the homeowner call CDFA to have an inspector survey the citrus tree located in the front yard that would be great.

Every indication is that they're expecting me to facilitate this exchange. Is it incorrect of me to think that CDFA should apply their "government agency" card here to contact the homeowner and continue this process?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: HLB Getting Worse in California
« on: December 23, 2017, 09:51:26 PM »
I see ACP all the time (even today, in the winter) on the citrus in Westchester. If I look daily, I see them daily. 100% certain of ID, they're just under the size of the exclamation mark "!" on a standard keyboard and in the conventional head-down-diagonal feeding position. Neighbors who have used imidacloprid products haven't seen a significant reduction in population.

What worries me is that they don't stop at just the newer/younger growth, but also have been attacking the hardened leaves (and once, even saw one trying to feed on a thorn). Year-round concern.

But the hope is that they aren't (currently) carrying HLB.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Help with my meyer lemon
« on: November 01, 2017, 01:09:50 AM »
Hi Matt, what are the symptoms on your tree? Do you have old leaves falling?

Mtlgirl, see images here with similar symptoms:
 http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=25226.0

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Help with my meyer lemon
« on: October 30, 2017, 02:23:57 AM »
Millet, thanks. I did catch that in the other thread. Looks like it has Neem extract too. Heavy duty combo with the pyreth. and soaps - probably takes out the beneficials too. I wonder what it's defeating for the improvement?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Help with my meyer lemon
« on: September 02, 2017, 10:06:30 PM »
I didn't say I agreed ;). But would love a better diagnosis!

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Help with my meyer lemon
« on: September 02, 2017, 09:15:31 PM »
People have seemed to think this is a form of greasy spot fungus.

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Monterey Liqui-Cop (Copper diammonia diacetate complex) and more regular treatment of horticultural oil (I tend to use Southern AG's Parafine). New flushes seem healthy but the spread continues. Have not seen any webbing but mite damage would be consistent with the rapidity...

How does everyone avoid / suppress mites on their trees?

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To be honest, I tried another forum a month or so ago but am looking for more opinions. There was a long-ago post where another user (in Florida) had the same issue but never indicated if it was resolved (not sure if we can link there, but if you web search for "Problem With Meyer Lemon Leaves" and "charles27gardener" his post will show up).

My improved Meyer lemon (on a standard non-dwarfing rootstock) has been growing like gangbusters since planting a year ago. Recently, the underside of many of the leaves have started to become covered with rough brown spots. A number of the leaves fall off.

This is the only tree experiencing the issue of five trees that are about the same size and on the same watering schedule (two blood orange, one minneola tangelo, one page mandarin, and this meyer lemon).

The suggestion was fungal and that fungicide could control - I've begun that regimen but it continues to get worse (more leaves falling off, at the same time the tree is flushing with newer growth). Could it be mites? Edema? Fungal but takes longer to control? Other ideas?

I'm in the coastal Los Angeles area. Theoretically greasy spot is rare here?

Top of leaves, backlit (no noticeable issues with tops of leaves, but you can see where whatever is happening is affecting the tissue to make it lighter yellow) (Click for full-size)


Underside of leaves, note (necrotic?) brown spots (Click for full-size)


Fallen leaf top and bottom (click for full-size)


The tree itself, in lighting that doesn't reveal the issue, except for the defoliation near the top:

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