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Cool, Thanks Oscar. I was wondering if the Beach Park was still open or not.Thats a much less desireable boat ride from Hilo, especially with white caps.
What do you mean by the beach park?

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You have the key to success with that one!  ;D

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Wow! surprised they're allowing boat tours. That sounds amazingly spectacular! got pics? ;)
The tours are only for boats with special permits that have operated in previous events when lava was entering ocean. Boats without special permits have to remain minimum 300 yards away from area. Our boat was only one there, except for Coast Guard ship monitoring situation. Very difficult to reach as need to use Hilo harbor now that Pohoiki boat ramp is closed. Ocean quite rough in this area and one way was 75 minutes to reach area. Yes have photos, and even videos, and will try to post some later.

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Hmm, first good image I've seen so far:


That really helps contextualize it. Looks like all of the Leilani fissures are dead or dying, and they're further southeast than I was picturing.  Good.  So long as the eastern part of the flow doesn't get too adventurous, further damage should be mainly limited to roads, gas, etc and the occasional home or business in the countryside.

I've seen lots of articles freaking out about the lava going into the sea, but really, it  has to go somewhere, and that's the best spot for it. Laze is a small price to pay.  Bet the people on the eastern end of Pohoiki Road are particularly happy about the turn to the sea.  I just hope those flows to the north of them are as dead as they appear.
The fissures in Leilani are not dead. They are just not active right now. Fissures all along the rift zone can go on and off at any time, and several already have. Hopefully most of the intrusion of magma has moved down rift, but there is no guarantee of this. Seismic activity and deflation are good signs that this is the case, and keeping fingers crossed that this is the case, but extremely difficult, if not impossible, to say what this volcano will do next.
Fissure 6 came back on and is currently threatening to flow over the geothermal plant. There is a possibility of a blow out of a well. They are trying to do everything they can to cap and plug them in time. A blow out of geothermal well would mean possible release of very toxic hydrogen sulfide gases and other chemicals. A well blow out already happened once in 1991, and maybe will help to explatin to you why geothermal plant is not so popular here? That also together with the fact that the plant is smack in the middle of a residential area? It should have never been permitted.

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As I said before..... These 20+ fissures have not spewed out much lava near homes otherwise we would have a lot more video of homes having lava rolling over them. You can see molten hot lava dancing out of fissures which just means pressure blowing off. I hope pray this volcanic event ends soon and blows off soon so that road repair can be done and lives can return to normal.

As far as lava hitting the ocean with lots of bubbling and steam, this is worth a helicopter ride to see it. But you have to live there and I don't.
The area in Leilani are all homes on one acre or larger lots, otherwise a lot more homes would indeed been destroyed.
All flights within 5 miles of active lava flow are prohibited, except for special permission like USGS and Civid Defense. I did go on a lava boat trip and it was spectacular! They went very close to area where lava is entering the ocean. That large plume is visible from my house. There was zero laze and zero SO2. In fact it was the first time i could breathe freely in a very long time. Now back home and air is miraculously clean, at least for now.

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See fake news on many different sites, and almost all media outside of Hawaii hypes what is happening here so much that truth becomes distorted. Only local Hawaii news channels are usually good, and even there sometimes there is some hype.

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If the air is like it was here after Bįršarbunga, the amount it affects you is relative to how physically active you are.  Also, the weather conditions have a huge effect on it.  The biggest one, obviously, being which direction the wind is blowing and how hard.  With the pollution maps we had, the plume was like a narrow cone emitted from the fissure, aimed at whatever direction the winds were on that day.

Are you getting a "blue haze"?  That was the key characteristic here.  When you're looking at distant mountains it often made them look like they were floating in the air.  The period of time in Iceland's history after Laki went off were known as "Móšuharšindin", or "The Mist Hardships"; 20% of the population and 75% of the livestock died, and Denmark considered evacuating the whole island.
No blue haze here. Measurements of SO2 close to fissures at over 100 ppm, which is extremely high. I'm guessing when it's really bad at my place it is over 5 ppm, but don't know for sure as don't have a meter.

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Good new's indeed Oscar, you be loosing sleep for sure with gas blast's an fissure sounds hopefully you getting sleep!
Sleeping: no problems. Blasts are very far away, barely hear them.
Breathing: problems some times. Air quality can get really bad sometimes. It brings new meaning to the expression "i need to take a breather". Going to the ocean today (far from lava flow) to get some fresh air. I'm tired of holding my breath!

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WOW, stay safe Oscar an hope with all the lava flowing that the pressure calms an hopefully Pele rest's. Sounds like your trapped but I'm sure your prepared for the long haul wishing you the best in a scary situation for sure.
Good news is that they opened back up the road we are on, so we are not trapped right now.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Should I train my cambuca?
« on: May 20, 2018, 08:52:10 PM »
I have two cambuca trees that are 5 years old.  They seem happy and healthy, but they have a very low, spreading habit.  They are only about 1 ft high, but 3 ft wide.  Very leafy and healthy looking. They are in pots in my greenhouse.
Should I be training them to a more upright position, or just let them go as they are? Some of the branches actually hang lower than the edge of the 10 gallon pots they are in.

Thanks!
Carolyn
They grow and look a lot like guava, just a lot slower growing. It all depends on what you want as final product? Personally at that stage i would let them be, you want max phytosynthesis due to slow growth. I would start pruning them when 3-4 foot tall.

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Passionfruits keep for long time and are hard and pack well. I was just thinking that casabanana (Sicana odorifera) would be excellent, it keeps for many months, up to a year.

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Photo of glow in sky at night through almost completely defoliated santol tree. It is one of the more sensitive ones to the SO2.



*Looks at the santols on my counter*
*Looks at that poor tree*
*Sad face  :(  *

Hope the fissures closest to you are the ones that decide to close up first.  Weak fissures never last very long, but I don't know which of the ones in this eruption are the weakest.
Fissures closest to me, about 2 miles, are not active, and are downslope from me.

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Anybody can apply for a phyto sanitary certificate. But if you have a registered nursery it is easier to know how to apply for it, where to get it, and how to be succesful in doing so. Plants need to be in stermile medium or bare rooted to get a phyto.
Are you sure your country requires a phyto? Some countries will inspect plants on entry and no prior phyto is required. (The USA used to be like that until about 20 years ago.)

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Photo of glow in sky at night through almost completely defoliated santol tree. It is one of the more sensitive ones to the SO2.



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You have twenty fissures but it seems not much lava flow from them. Not the kind of flow that swallows up thirty- one hundered houses in a day. It is best that the whole situation blows of dramatically to relive pressure. Then road repairs and home repairs etc. can be made and life can get back to normal.

I am going to take a better look at the geography ----  But off the top of my head, when the lava starts flowing into the ocean then the situation is getting serious
Hi Zands, there are currently 22 fissures, but not all active, i believe right now only 7 are active. About 3 of them are producing huge amounts of lava right now. 3 big rivers of lava headed for the ocean, and 2 of those lava rivers have already crossed the coastal road 137 and dumping lava into the ocean as of last night.Flowing into the ocean is not serious because that area there are no homes in its path. Also large volumes of magma coming out release pressure inside the piping system and make it less explosive and less dangerous. My place is on Kamaili road, which is now closed to all through traffic, including residents. I think they only allow residents out, but not back in. Hope they relax this policy in near future cause otherwise we are locked in for time being. Greatest danger right now is of over protective officials closing off all the roads. We are not in any current danger here except for high levels of SO2 gas, and that has been occuring for over a week, and we're well prepared for it.

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Thanks, i know you mean well. But the people here in Hawaii are already very well informed. The civil defense department here puts out notices by email and on radio every few hours. A lot of the news outlets outside of Hawaii are putting out either completely false or alarmist news which is not helpful at all, except to themselves to get higher ratings.

We understand. Just take it as "people here care about you and the people near you, and are wishing you all the best"  :)  That's the reason we're doing our best to keep up with the news, even though it doesn't affect us personally.
Thanks for the concern. What i was trying to tell Luis is that i already get all these alerts from Civil Defense, and i get them before he does. Also i think i am the only one in this group in the lava area?

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There is also Vivero Anones and Govardhan Gardens. I know second was hard hit by hurricane. But you can try them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee time
« on: May 19, 2018, 03:01:52 AM »
1st year for a good harvest. I believe this was a brewster planted some years ago.

I enjoyed some earlier today & decided to pick a few more and eat now...  There are probably 30 more on the small tree for later.

These were very sweet & tart combo & so fun to eat with the clear plump juicy flesh surrounded by the egg shell thin shell.

Sorry, didn't have time to stop and take a picture till they were all gone.... :P



Those shells look green to me. That is why they tasted tart, not fully ripe. Those seeds wrong shape for Brewster.

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I just wanted to doublecheck, I think I had read here that mango & kuini are graft compatible, correct? 

Thanks!
John
Yes that is right.

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Try Jardines Eneida nursery. Don't know how they fared after hurricane, but was large nursery with good selection of fruits.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Historic marang
« on: May 19, 2018, 12:19:06 AM »
It looks like marang to me and they vary a lot in fruit, leaf and growth characteristics. I don't think there are named cultivars just different local selections.
I've heard there are named cultivars in the Phillippines of marang.

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Just saw this:

Hawaii
Breaking NATIONAL GUARD JUST ORDERED A MASSIVE EVAC

BREAKING ON FOX NEWS

Evacuation affects about 1000 people on the island

This is not yet on place, authorities are on preparations to it due the danger of ashes, stronger explosive eruptions and big quantities of gas in the air.
This is all totally false. Fox News is the KING of fake news!
Well i'm sorry. I try to find relevant info to post just to usefull.
Thanks, i know you mean well. But the people here in Hawaii are already very well informed. The civil defense department here puts out notices by email and on radio every few hours. A lot of the news outlets outside of Hawaii are putting out either completely false or alarmist news which is not helpful at all, except to themselves to get higher ratings.

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Here are some photos i took today of some lava fountains.









You can see a video of that lava fountain here: https://www.facebook.com/oscarfruitlovers/videos/10216273800507817/

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Yeay, ash falls  :Ž  Well, at least they let out the pressure faster....  :Ž

Keep those plants hosed off as long as you're not forced out and as long as you have water...  :(   Ugh.....
Bad advice. Hosing plants off makes things worse. SO2 dissolves in water and turns into sulphuric acid which damages leaves. Plenty of SO2 about now. Best is to blow off the dust with a leaf blower. BTW, had zero ash fall here, but today is really bad SO2. Schools in the area all closed.

Not according to the NZ government;

https://www.mpi.govt.nz/dmsdocument/137-volcanic-eruption-impacts-and-hazard-mitigation-for-new-zealands-primary-production-industries

But if you can get it off with air blowers, then great too  :)   

(H2O+SO3 = H2SO4, not H2O+SO2; SO2 has to oxidize first  :)  )
What i said about blowing ash off is the recommendation of Japanese government. So i guess it depends on which government you want to believe?

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Stay safe Oscar, keep your masks close are you down to only coastal road now ?
There are 2 ways out again, because they fixed the road close to my place, highway 130. But that seems like a very temporary fix to allow people to get their stuff out, metal plates over vents cannot support heavy trucks or equipment. The other road, the coastal road 137 is still open, but the lava is only 1 mile away and headed straight for it.

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