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I have multiple varieties planted in my yard and get cross pollination so Iím not sure if it will set fruit on its own. I believe some places list it as self fertile but Iím not positive. If you have other varieties, it should rose pollinate for higher fruit set.

Not sure about dark star, I donít have that one.

Simon

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Gmail works for me, thanks Jeff!

Simon

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Iím not in Florida but I would try to get Sugar Dragon and Yellow Dragon. Sugar Dragon is self fruitful and produces probably the most blooms and fruit out of all the DF varieties. The fruit are very small but one of the best tasting and my vine set 4-5 crops this year, itís actually still holding late Fruit now. Sugar Dragon even if the vine is small, will set fruit, one of the most precocious varieties.

Yellow Dragon is also self fruitful and crops later in the year to give an extended season. Yellow Dragon is very sweet and tastes different than other DF varieties.

Both these varieties can be kept smaller and still be very fruitful.

Halleyís Comet is one of the slowest to fruit varieties and has fungal issues in my yard. It used to be one of my favorites but I now donít recommend it due to disease and production issues. I would go with American Beauty over Halleyís Comet.

Simon

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: If You Live In California
« on: December 15, 2017, 09:55:51 PM »
Thanks for the heads up Millet, I believe I saw them on sale last year at Trader Joeís. Iíll definitely pick up a bag if I see it at the market.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: December 14, 2017, 06:16:04 PM »
Amazon harvest Spaugh, time to make avocado smoothies!

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Jade Pineapple
« on: December 14, 2017, 06:06:26 PM »
My original plants were from Flyingfoxfruits as well and Iím glad I purchased them back when I did. My plants are now large and fruiting size.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango bloom one mile from my house.
« on: December 14, 2017, 10:50:15 AM »
Nice blooms onthat one part of the mango tree. Iíve never seen guarana before, do you make a drink with it? Thereís caffeine in the plant IIRC.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bees pollinating dragonfruit
« on: December 14, 2017, 10:47:51 AM »
That happens to my DF all the time. Sometimes you will also notice that DF flowers wonít produce pollen on the stamens when itís too early or too late in season. You will still see a little bulge at the top of the stamens but no powder comes off.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What makes dragonfruit spindly?
« on: December 14, 2017, 10:35:32 AM »
Yup, agree with Spaugh. My DF in the shade or under weak artificial lights grow very thin and spindly. Itís called etoliation. If using artificial lighting, HID lights like HPS work well.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID this mango?
« on: December 13, 2017, 10:09:46 PM »
Yup, thatís exactly how my Glennís look. We often get seeds without embryos so the seed husk is very thin. Also in our dry weather, the Glennís also taste pretty good, not watered down. They have a very strong pleasant aroma when ripe.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kari star fruit question
« on: December 12, 2017, 01:49:51 PM »
I donít know much about Starfruit but Iíve read that they may need more micronutrients especially if your soil or water are high in PH.

Simon

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These giant yellow df are so good. how long does it take to fruit from seeds? I bought two fruits and planted some seeds.

I have Frankie's red grafted onto undulatus. the plant grew about five feet since it was grafted earlier this year. Not sure if this is a good growth rate.

Xshen, the juvenile period of Megalanthus is very long. I neglected my seedlings and it took one year to grow several inches. Iím guessing with good care, it may take 4+ years to get Fruit. Your growth rate on your grafted Frankieís Red is really good. It grows relatively slowly until the roots spread out at which time its growth rate significantly increases. Frankieís Red grows intermediate between Undatus and Megalanthus.

FamilyJ, I grow a little bit of this and that. I focus on Fruit that are sweet and Fruit that cannot be easily found in markets.

Simon

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I post a thread regarding grafting cactus a while back and a member of this forum post pictures of their successful dragonfruit to Dragonfruit graft. The literature I found says that the Megalanthus grows better on Undatus rootstock and may also increase the size of the fruit but I decided not to graft because I was able to get excellent growth by fertilizing properly.

Here is another picture of the Gel2root pots with successful root growth of Yellow Passionfruit in Winter





Simon

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That is a Gel2root cup. Iíve had excellent results rooting green cuttings in it. They donít say whatís in the gel but I suspect it contains willow extract.

Simon

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Here is a picture of a Peruvian selection of the large fruited Megalanthus. I grew this from a seed but the pot itís grown in is full of weeds so I took cuttings and will re pot them in a new pot once the roots grow out a bit more.





Here is the fruit from my unconfirmed giant, the cutting was given to me as a large fruiting selection but this is the first time I fruited it. The plant is only a couple branches long and growing in the shade so it donít believe it will reach its full potential.





Simon

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Thank you Simon for the update.
I believe that the Giant Megalanthus seeds will grow true because, like Vietnam DF, I doubt that every Gisnt Megalanthus plant in Ecuador is a clone from the same one plant.
I also doubt that Giant Megalanthus growers in Southern California will have the same results as Ecuador growers... but definitely worth trying.

Your welcome ricshaw, I should find out possibly this year but most likely next year. Seeds from a confirmed giant were planted several years ago and Iím starting to take and root the cuttings to increase my planting material.

Simon

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Iím not going to mention names but several forum members in SoCal already have the giant clone including myself. Mine is not proven yet but I did get a cutting from one member and I have cuttings from a Peruvian clone and seeds from the Ecuador clone that I just collected from these fruit.

One member of this forum posted pictures of his giant yellow vine holding Fruit and they were the giant variety.

I have one small fruit from a supposedly giant clone but the vine itís growing on is only several feet long with only a couple branches so I doubt the fruit will get to giant size but I am hoping the phenotype will be more rounded like the Peruvian and Ecuador clones.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Inarching Projects
« on: December 11, 2017, 11:43:25 PM »
Awesome project, please keep us updated. Iíve found that recently sprouted seedlings or newer green growth heals the fastest. In Spring or Summer when trees are actively growing, the unions heal over very quickly.

Simon

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For those people that still think there is only one Megalanthus selection, that is absolutely incorrect. The links I provided above show that there are multiple selections out there with different characteristics.

Yes, there are definitely size differences within a given clone line. If you want specifics, the early Fruit is smaller, later Fruit is larger. Fruit pollinated with another clones pollen or from a different variety of DF will have more seeds and larger fruit. Grafting Megalanthus onto Undatus may also give you larger fruit.

You can also perform specific pruning techniques to change hormone levels and also adjust photo period to get off season Fruit.

There is the Colombian line, Ecuador and Peru lines and each of those have multiple clones. Some of the lines/clones may be the same but there are special lines especially selected for larger Fruit. These selected lines are about double the size of the smaller line which averages about 6-8 Oz each if I remember correctly. The giant selection can get over a pound.

Simon

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Here is a picture of the giant yellow Megalanthus I purchased in Hong Kong. It is shaped differently than these giant ones I recently purchased.

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=8090.0

Here is an interesting article for anyone considering Breeding dragonfruit
https://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs-wm/30383.pdf

Simon

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Here is an article that shows there are different selections of Megalanthus although this is not the article I was originally referring to. This article shows that there are many different selections of Megalanthus.
http://www.scielo.org.co/pdf/cide/v7n2/v7n2a02.pdf

Simon

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This article will probably show you at the DNA level that there are different Megalanthus selections but youíll have to pay to find out.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0304423803001699

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Hereís some cool Megalanthus hybrids in case you havenít seen it before.

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=13533.25

Simon

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Nate, try searching scholarly articles for S/H Megalanthus. There is an article talking about the development of the giant Fruit.

Simon

I have already read through many of the papers that show up on Google Scholar, including those from the university in Israel that is working to develop commercially viable dragonfruit, and those that are searching for the origin of H. undatus. Can you please just post the article you're talking about? I've spent many hours already researching this subject, so telling me to do some research isn't very helpful. If you don't want to spend the time to find the article, could you just tell me if you or anyone has actually shown one of these fruiting outside a commercial plantation in Taiwan/South America? You said you knew from personal experience this one flowers later. Does that mean yours flowered?

Nate, I remember i had to do a lot of digging before I found the article on the Selected strains of Giant Megalanthus.

You can easily look up that Megalanthus has a later flowering period, any Megalanthus, not just the giant selection. I have one fruit from an unconfirmed giant Megalanthus but the plant is small so even if it is the giant, the fruit size may be medium although I should still be able to notice the difference in fin patterns and the more rounded shape.

I also have a seedling from Dragon that should Fruit next Winter.

Iíll post the link if/when I can find it. If I found the info about the selection of the giant fruit in the past, you should be able to find it to with some more in depth searching.

Simon

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