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I have a kishu mandarin growing 18” from a cinderblock wall. Its been there for 5 years. Its made it through a couple brutal heatwaves including the one in 2018 where it got to 115.

Tried apples along the same wall and they really struggled.

I planted a fig this spring and its growing well but it hasn't experienced a hot summer.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to uncover mango grafts.
« on: July 03, 2020, 03:03:01 PM »


This is a parsons mango graft pushing



This is fruit punch. The buds are more swollen than they were last week.




this is lemon zest looking like it will start pushing soon.





This is another lemon zest thats a little further along.


All grafts were done on june 12. The rest are still green but no signs off growth. Should i be concerned of the other grafts or is it normal for grafts to take longer than 3 weeks to begin pushing? Thanks.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to uncover mango grafts.
« on: June 29, 2020, 09:33:41 AM »
I ended up removing the foil yesterday. This was done because the weather was 75f overcast and today will be 78f overcast. Then a slow ramp up to 95f by next sunday. Hoping the grafts will be acclimated to the sun by then.

Would it be a safer bet to rewrap in foil or just let them be?

Thanks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / When to uncover mango grafts.
« on: June 28, 2020, 01:52:09 PM »
On June 12, 2020 i grafted mango scions. I did 5 trees in 3 gallon pots which i stuck under a tree to keep direct sunlight off of them. The 8 remaining grafts were done on in ground trees. I covered the grafts with aluminum foil to keep the sun off them. All grafts are still alive with a couple actively pushing and some with increasingly swollen buds. Im wondering when can i remove the aluminum foil.? I want to remove it before the real summer heat kicks in but dont want to do it too early resulting in failure. Thanks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Leaving Mango Grafts for 5 weeks
« on: June 23, 2020, 11:50:33 AM »
Check weather reports. If its going to be too hot maybe some sort of shade protection might be warranted.

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That's what I was thinking... I'll probably end up doing that.

I guess I'm going to have to rethink my order, and plan it better, then...

If i were you i would insure against the future availability (or lack of availability) of budwood. I think JF is relocating away from the US so this is probably the last time he will be selling mango budwood. Might be a good idea to get budwood and get your own budwood stock growing. I’ve put in my order with him because I like getting good quality local (more fresh) budwood. The less time budwood spends in transit, the better. I wish him the best on his relocation. I hope he keeps sharing knowledge and experience on this forum. But his mango, annona, and guava cuttings are definitely going to be missed.

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Sent.

Question:  Does it ever make sense to graft the same cultivar onto the same rootstock multiple times?

Yes. Especially if you are not a proficient grafter (like me). Then you want multiple chances of getting one take. Also, i think simon advices people to let the rootstock grow several years and then graft multiple shoots in order to have a full tree of the chosen variety.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted dragon fruit sicon
« on: May 24, 2020, 12:20:05 PM »
If you are close to cal poly they sell small palora dragon fruit plants for a reasonable price($7). They have curbside pick up on the smaller plants(you order online and they email you when they are available for pick up). I cant remember if they had larger palora plants in stock right now. I did email the nursery manager and got a very fast response.

http://calpolypomonanursery.com/dragon-fruit-palora-plant/

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I know that Laguna Hills Nursery also sells Cherimoya. I'm not sure if they have the specific varieties you are looking for though.


I called laguna hills. No luck. I think they had fino but ive called so many places that im not sure what they actually have only that they didnt have what i was looking for.

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Call Mimosa LA. Last year they had El Bumpo, Fino de Jete, and Orton. Orton is a prolific producer and the fruit is delicious! It was only $35 for a five gallon cherimoya.

I went to mimosa in LA and the one in rosemead they had orton and fino de jete but none of the ones i was looking for.

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Check Cal Poly Pomona Farm Store in the summer

I did contact them. They told me they wouldnt have trees to sell until august. Im trying to gift the tree to someone so they can get it in ground asap. Thanks for the the suggestion.

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Looking for top tier cherimoya varieties. El bumpo, deliciosa, big sister, sabor. Also some interest in top tier atemoya.
Will pick up. Pm me thanks

Update: thanks for the replies. Was able to acquire the plants from someone in the community. I will update the title to reflect this matter closed. Thanks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help Identifying Cherimoya Fruit
« on: April 08, 2020, 12:20:20 PM »
The one in the circle looks like an atemoya.  In SoCal, they are available but not as abundant.  I still have one on my tree waiting for picking.  I visit a nursery specialize in atemoya.  They have plenty of plants with fruits.  I believe they will harvest them all soon to get the plant ready for flowerings except a few for show and tell.

Curious to know what nursery. Thanks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Sweet Tart is pushing new leaves!?
« on: January 31, 2020, 10:21:45 AM »
looks like a mixed bloom.
Those little nodes near the leaf axil should become flowers

Thanks. After watching a couple videos on truly tropical youtube channel dedicated to mixed bloom im inclined to say you are right. Its very surprising that there are very little high resolution pictures on the stages of mango bloom and even less on mixed bloom. Thanks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Sweet Tart is pushing new leaves!?
« on: January 30, 2020, 08:10:32 PM »
Seems like my sweet tart mango is also waking up. Do panicle development and vegetative growth look the same when beginning to grow? Im trying to figure out if the tree is going to flower for the first time or if its just regular growth?

Edit: here are some pics. To me it looks like normal growth but im not sure if at this point vegetative growth vs panicle development would look different.







This is how it looks like ten days later.


Is this panicle development or typical growth?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Sweet Tart is pushing new leaves!?
« on: January 19, 2020, 10:56:12 PM »
Seems like my sweet tart mango is also waking up. Do panicle development and vegetative growth look the same when beginning to grow? Im trying to figure out if the tree is going to flower for the first time or if its just regular growth?

Edit: here are some pics. To me it looks like normal growth but im not sure if at this point vegetative growth vs panicle development would look different.







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guava Grafting (top work)
« on: November 21, 2019, 09:21:50 PM »
Do you guys think its an ok time to tip work guava or better to wait until spring?

I would wait until temps warm. Late summer 2018, i did some guava grafts. Only one was alive after 2 weeks. The live one struggled through winter only to die in spring.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Bud selection
« on: September 05, 2019, 03:43:04 PM »
Update:




They really seem to grow by the hour once they start to flush. This is the same pics from my last post (the first 3 pics).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Bud selection
« on: August 29, 2019, 10:01:07 PM »
The top pics was a side cleft graft. The other one was indeed a regular cleft graft. I cant remember if these were lined up on one side or both.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thinner Mango Rootstock than budwood
« on: August 29, 2019, 12:52:55 PM »

You take a shot and share your pictures. Worst case you will have two high likelihood on your pencil thich shoots and two fair shots on the thinner shoots. 


I did a ton of grafts last wednesday and thursday so i didnt get a chance to take pics of all but one of the grafts. I such a hurry i even forgot to take a pic of the completed graft but i did get the cuts made on scion and rootstock. Had a hardtome trying to match the width on the cuts. I would go too deep on lots of the scions and would just try to match one of the sides as best i could. This particular one was one of the better ones.

Cut to rootstock



Cut main cut to scion



Back cut to scion



Side view



Sorry for the blurry pics. Didnt have access to a better camera. After one week everything is still green.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Bud selection
« on: August 29, 2019, 12:22:28 PM »
Update. After weeks weeks there hasnt been much change. Both grafts have just sat there. Both graft are still green. And i have been diligently rubbing off growth below the grafts as well as pinching swollen buds below and above the grafts. But in the last couple of days i have noticed a bud swelling.









And this one is of an unrelated graft i did in late june that has barely started to push. My guess is simon is right and my grafting technique doesnt allow for optimal cambium contact.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bordeaux fig flowers pic please
« on: August 23, 2019, 07:41:37 PM »
As far as i know figs are inverted flowers so they dont flower like peaches or mangoes. The fig “fruit” is the actual flower.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Bud selection
« on: August 02, 2019, 07:40:43 PM »
This stage I like to harvest my bud wood

Ed








Thanks for the visual ill keep it in mind. The reason i posted the thread was because i had prepared a scion hoping it would get to the point that looks like your pic. What i noticed was that a lower section of the same branch looked very similar to your pic (except it didnt have the terminal bud). So my conundrum was either to wait and possibly miss an opportunity to harvest the bottom section or take both sections. Har advised that both sections were suitable for grafting so i decided to take both.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Bud selection
« on: August 02, 2019, 02:30:03 PM »
Your scions could have been allowed to swell up a bit more but they were plenty good for a successful graft. In SoCal, it can take a while for buds to swell big unless there is a lot of heat. Some grafts can stall for many months. Make sure you pinch back buds from below the graft union.

Often when you do a cleft graft, the area immediately beneath the graft union will try to push new growth because the apical tip was removed. If you allow the buds to push out, it will pull energy away from your grafted scion.

Simon

Thanks i was getting a little worried. I pulled back the parafilm and the buds are very swollen one and the other is swollen but not to the same degree. Should i reapply parafilm or just let them be. I did two side cleft grafts and i have been pinching the buds near the top of the canopy. Ill make sure to give the lower buds a pinch. Thanks. With mid 90 degree weather when can i expect to see some action (if any) on the graft?

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